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  1. NaturalDestroyer

    Tier 1-C or 2-C?

    I'm trying to figure out how Tier 1 works on this wiki. How would the following be classified? Universe A has 15 dimensional layers: a material plane and fourteen higher dimensions layered on top of it. If a character destroyed that universe, including those higher dimensions, would that be a...
  2. NaturalDestroyer

    1-A Allfather Thor With Phoenix Force? Avengers Assemble Omega (2023) SPOILERS

    Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcX032vT3cE What happened: Allfather Thor joined with two Phoenixes to push back the power of the First Firmament that had been unleashed by Mephisto. The leftovers of its corpse, essentially. Odin: Said that it would "Drown entire universes"...
  3. NaturalDestroyer

    MCU Thor vs MCU Ikaris

    Now that they're both (finally) 6-B...let's see who the real god is. Thor is in his Awakened Thor key and has Stormbreaker. They start 100 meters apart on the moon and are both bloodlusted. Speed is equalized. God of Thunder: God of Flying Into the Sun:
    • NaturalDestroyer
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    • ikaris (marvel cinematic universe) marvel cinematic universe thor (marvel cinematic universe)
    • Replies: 10
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  4. NaturalDestroyer

    Marvel Comics - Cosmic King Thor: Up to Low 1-A Via Absorption

    I know what you're thinking. How did this happen? RELEVANCE: Well, I saw a need and decided to start a CRT to fill that need. We no longer have a Cosmic King Thor/Herald of Thunder key on Thor's profile, despite it being one of his most popular powerups in the past twenty years, even spawning a...
  5. NaturalDestroyer

    Marvel Cosmology Question: The Sixth "Omniverse"

    Does anyone have any scans or author statements regarding the size/cosmology of the Sixth Multiverse that Galactus is originally from? The most information that I can find is that it was the origin of science in the history of the multiverse and that the Black Winter destroyed it.
  6. NaturalDestroyer

    Amped Galactus Power Level

    Disclaimer: I am not saying that we should upgrade Thor. This is not an upgrade thread. I'm just curious about what the justification is for the following issue. In Herald of Thunder, Galactus states that he's stronger than he's ever been. Do we have a concrete on-panel reason for assuming that...
  7. NaturalDestroyer

    GG: Gandalf vs Goku

    Gandalf is in his Low 2-C key and this is Tournament of Power SSB Goku (also Low 2-C). Speed is equalized so that way Gandalf doesn't blitz. SBA Mithrandir: 1 (@Dread ) Monke Blue: 0
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    • dragon ball dragon ball (toei) dragon ball super gandalf lord of the rings son goku son goku (dbs anime) son goku (dragon ball super)
    • Replies: 31
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  8. NaturalDestroyer

    Apocalypse vs Thor

    The battle takes place on the moon. The combatants start 1 kilometer apart and are aware of one another. The match is in-character. Apocalypse is in his Power of the Twelve key and Thor is in his Rune King state (2-A tier). FIGHT! End Timer: Fate Breaker: 2 (@MARVEL_Future_Fight_Gamer...
  9. NaturalDestroyer

    Marvel Comics - Thor Shaking the Realms of the World Tree

    This is from the new Avengers 1,000,000 B.C. and mentions a child Thor potential supporting feat. At 14:10 it states that every time the newborn Thor cried, he created "storms that shook the World Tree and every realm perched among its branches." Could this be added to his profile as a...
  10. NaturalDestroyer

    Gandalf the White vs Broly

    4-A Gandalf the White vs Legendary Super Saiyan Broly. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Broly_(Dragon_Ball_Z) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gandalf
  11. NaturalDestroyer

    Sauron vs Ares

    4-A Sauron vs Post-Crisis Avatar Ares. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Ares_(DC_Comics) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sauro
  12. NaturalDestroyer

    Sauron vs Aurelion Sol

    3-B versions. In character. Speed unequalized since it isn't necessary https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Aurelion_Sol https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sauro
  13. NaturalDestroyer

    Elves and Maiar Scaling Revisions

    I'm a tad confused about the scaling issues between the strongest Maiar and Elves on the LotR pages here. Here I've compiled a body of evidence suggesting that they're more equal than generally assumed as well as closer to the Valar in power. If accepted, this would result in serious upgrades...
  14. NaturalDestroyer

    Dark Lord vs Little Mad Boi

    Zen'o vs True Form Morgoth (2-C). https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Zen'%C5%8D https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Morgoth Zen'o: Morgoth: Inconclusive:
  15. NaturalDestroyer

    Fireworks Beard vs Fishie Prince (DCEU)

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gandalf https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Aquaman_(DC_Extended_Universe) Speed equalized, morals off. Gandalf the White vs DCEU Aquaman. 6-B versions. Gandalf: Aquaman: Inconclusive:
    • NaturalDestroyer
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    • aquaman (dc extended universe) dc extended universe gandalf lord of the rings
    • Replies: 12
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  16. NaturalDestroyer

    Elves and Maiar scaling

    It seems confusing that several elves are rated as comparable to the Valar, while the strongest Maiar are vastly beneath them. Gothmog killed Feanor, but is only 6-B? Why doesn't he scale? Why doesn't Sauron scale? Or Unrestricted Gandalf? If Fingolfin fighting Morgoth is valid, which it...
  17. NaturalDestroyer

    Hulk (MCU) vs Gandalf

    Post-Sakaar Hulk (High 6-B) vs Gandalf the White (At least 6-B, likely higher). Speed is already comparable, but will be equalized if necessary. Both willing to go all-out. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Hulk_(Marvel_Cinematic_Universe) https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gandalf 7 votes to...
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    • gandalf hulk (marvel cinematic universe) lord of the rings marvel cinematic universe
    • Replies: 13
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  18. NaturalDestroyer

    Morgoth vs Dark Souls

    4-A Morgoth vs all Dark Souls characters with pages. How many can he fight at once? Does he solo the verse? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Dark_Souls https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Morgoth Morgoth: 5 Dark Souls: 0 Inconclusive: 0
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