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  1. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    そういう "such; like that", 無理 "impossible; unreasonable", ばかり "only", し conjunctive form of the verb "to do", とる (toru) "to take" King Kai is basically saying Goku can't take things to such an unreasonable extent, meaning exerting himself too much, that's what caused his delayed Ki.
  2. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Official Translation Requests Thread (New forum)

    This is inaccurate in many ways and seems to be machine translated. The original Japanese text does not mention asthma at all. The correct translation should be "It's not delayed onset psychosis.", meaning a chi disease called delayed onset. Also "It's a condition in which you lose control of...
  3. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    It's "pushing yourself", meaning exerting too much stamina, which is related to the fact Goku was reckless with Kaioken. It, in no way, says anything about forcing himself into the future
  4. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    The multiplier is nothing, it's unknown. You can't say what it is or what it isn't. Lmao. Oh just so you know, even if it had a multiplier, the 2-C feat is so overwhelmingly stronger as proof that the multiplier itself would be a meaningless contradiction, Dragon Ball is consistently 2-C. This...
  5. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    That's not Super Saiyan God's multiplier. That's Vegito's multiplier, which God scales up. You can't use that example. "Hey, you can't use multipliers as a contradiction, what about these other series who have the same problem", the very definition of whataboutism. Or maybe you don't know what...
  6. The_Yellow_Topaz

    High 5-A cluster

    Oh yes, let's take the graph, which was made to show a simplified event, literally. The earth will also only be divided into 4 little pieces that aren't even close to its full size. Yeah, no, I disagree.
  7. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    The problem we have with that is that it kind of opens the door for Immeasurable Speed Dragon Ball. Which is a problem, because this is not a feat of immeasurable speed. In the future, if something as small as a summer ant shows up as evidence in any canon Dragon Ball media, they WILL use the...
  8. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    What type of bs is this "immeasurable speed is a spectrum", NO IT IS NOT. I mean, yes, you can put a scaling chain on it, but the bare minimum of the speed value is that you are unbound by time as a concept because you can move through it freely. That's the bare minimum.
  9. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    This is contradicted by the way the ability is shown, so I won't dwell on it, sometimes Goku can just move between jumps. Honestly, if he just freezes your perception of time for 0.5 seconds, and then that 0.5 seconds actually passes, he's... just waiting, to be honest, that's not really time...
  10. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    Necessarily is definitely the wrong term here, "could be interpreted as" would be more appropriate, because again, given what we know now, the possibility that Goku is simply resisting the effects of Hit's Time Hax is far more likely. Yeah, to add to that, later we have the contradiction of...
  11. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    Whataboutism and if that's the case, either the evidence was too strong, or the counterevidence too weak. In this case, the multiplier IS still a contradiction, but if a character has 100 immeasurable speed feats, then it doesn't really matter now, does it? You CANNOT use other series to justify...
  12. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    It doesn't. Finite speed x finite multiplier is finite speed, that's a legit contradiction and will be used accordingly
  13. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    It's not God's multiplier, it's scaling to Z SSJ3 Vegito. God has no official multiplier and is scaling to something else entirely. 99.9% of the time, if a character has a finite speed and a finite multiplier, his speed will be multiplied by that finite multiplier.
  14. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    Base Goku is 2-C so this doesn't work. God multiplier has the privilege of being an unknown multiplier. 10x however, is in fact, only 10x
  15. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    Whoever answered that is dead wrong because Neutral Space is multi-universal in size.
  16. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    DBS was cooked the moment Toei put their hands on it. The first movement is after the fact. The second one where he kicks where Hit is going to show up 0.1s later is proof that while Hit sees everything as frozen, time passes normally for everyone else. This is Goku slipping and surpassing...
  17. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    Ahhhh, I see. I personally disagree with that interpretation but I guess I can see it, lol.
  18. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    I don't have anything to say about the rest, I'm just correcting you on the one thing I disagree. It can't be truly time travel because there is an in-between period where Hit can interact with Goku before time passes, which is non-sense if he was just time travelling.
  19. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    Time is "stopped" in his PERSPECTIVE. He does appear 0.1 and 0.5s after he stopped time in their POV respectively. Goku is shown to be frozen in most cases, and only moves when his power surpasses Hit with Kaioken x10, but even that gets surpassed with a more extended Time Skip. Time actually...
  20. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    It is infinitely small for Low 1-C, even if it was universal in size.
  21. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping? Stopping? man idek anymore" Hit time skip re-revision

    He is not skipping into the future, there is an in-between where time is stopped for his perpesctive, that's what Goku resists.
  22. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping isn't Stopping" Hit Time skip revision

    I will now disagree with the OP's main argument. TIME SKIP IS TIME STOPPING All credits to Null Episode 37  13:22 | Galactic King: "He might be time-skipping. I've only heard rumors about it myself, but supposedly some people can cause a slight skip in time. I believe it was roughly a 0.1...
  23. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    Ah I see. I apologize then. Neutral Zone was always 5D, it was so infinitely small that it didn't really made them move up a tier. It is still 5D now, but it also has a time axis, which is infinitely large, that encompasses all of the lesser timelines.
  24. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Dragon Ball Super Discussion Thread 100

    Thiiiiiis implies Time-Skip is a short Time Freeze
  25. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    Not... really? You wanted to get rid of hypertimelines which this thread cites, but doesn't tackle it at all. Aight bro, I was just trying to express my opinion on the matter, but there is no need to be this aggressive. It's a fact you can't just clog a thread by protesting about something that...
  26. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    Don't interact with me.
  27. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    Irrelevant to this thread. Ain't no mini modding, this argument is just being annoying and clogging a thread I have interest in reading. I will ask for a mod to handle this if you don't stop though.
  28. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    The fact you thought that was an attempt at an insult is insultingly insulting. What's mid are your arguments about the thing you objectively don't understand, not attacking y'all's character. Yeah nah, just stop it already. Boondoggle in your DMs, this is not the place for it.
  29. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    You two are portraying the battle of mid right now as neither of you understand the concepts of Hypertimeline very well and are discussing it in a very inappropriate time and place over a little joke. Chill. Let's wait for staff. Again, option 2 is trying to claim there is a second layer of 4D...
  30. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    Nope. Just like a larger 4D timeline can serve and encompass smaller 4D timelines, a true 5D hypertimeline can encompass an insignificantly and infinitely small 5D space
  31. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    It's an insignificant 5D space with very significant 5D time that serves all the universes AND the neutral spaces. Ah I see, so just another temporal dimension that serves no purpose for the grander multiverse? Because the hypertimeline can already serve the neutral space like a regular...
  32. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Ares! Downgrade This Verse, and My Life is Yours!" ⌈GoW Downgrades, Part 1/???⌋

    How have I not taken this title from you yet. Still, this is really well done. Some arguments here and there are kind of hard for me since my last debate on GoW has been quite long ago. I'll wait for more counterpoints.
  33. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Smurfing through time" A Dragon Ball Super upgrade

    Let's not pretend that's not what we all want Jokes aside, option 2 is surely the best option. This is evidence that there is a temporal axis in neutral space, it's non-sense to assume Hit manipulated the dimension to create a temporal axis, that's in no way related to his ability. He can...
  34. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping isn't Stopping" Hit Time skip revision

    It's not. I've outlined the reason afterwards. Not how the "possibly" rating work. "Possibly" is when a piece of evidence might be interpreted a certain way, and that interpretation is also consistent and possible for the series. Outliers can't be a possible rating. Also everyone stronger than...
  35. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    I'm "calling out" the group of people who always try to push for very large upgrades consistently, and seem to always outnumber anyone who argued otherwise. This is frustrating too, several people repeating the same argument I've already replied or straight up misinterpreting what I said. Of...
  36. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    Not what I meant, but making one frustrated comment is far from an excuse to tweak out and start throwing cusses around. After that I just argued against his points normally, and then another insult. Saying I'm significantly worse is ridiculous.
  37. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    Nah. I've been normal and respectful in other posts as well, but I guess you'll only bring it up for one side. Nierre you clearly have a problem with me as well so you're not suited for commenting on the matter. Leave.
  38. The_Yellow_Topaz

    Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

    I've expressed frustration at a group of people who always band together to make their peers seem "right" no matter the validity of their arguments. And then I made a slight jab after being cursed at twice and very aggressively so. He called me a toxic piece of shit and "stupid". I don't think...
  39. The_Yellow_Topaz

    "Skipping isn't Stopping" Hit Time skip revision

    Nierre. You're being biased. I'm not the one dissing out curses at my opponents. I've expressed frustration at WORST. ^ This is borderline reportable. And you kudo'd that. I highly recommend you to keep quiet on the matter if you're just going to dap up even worse offenders.
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