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Not really calculable. The fact that the shockwave explicitly gets stronger the further it is from the source means it’s not following the inverse square law, so there’s no way to calculate the energy at the source.
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That looks like deconstruction. But the planet looks like it was pulverized so use earth size and energy for pulverization I guess. Or just the GBE. If we're talking about that planet that was fragmented, depending on how fast those chunks moved, the results could be as high as large planet level.
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wait what? Also why is this universe bust not low 2-C? the kai said nothing will be left.
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Easy, because...ummm uhhh....
the macrocosm is low 2-C and was stated is ggoing to be destroyed completely , I don't know why either
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bruh. okay cool lol.
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Macrocosm is low 2c because universes in DB dont have their own individual timeline right? Correct me if Im wrong
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Yeah they say that U7 is just 1 big timeline, but the question is if it was going to be destroyed and leave nothing left then why isn't the feat low 2-C?
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Universes in db are space times in a larger space time. So yes...i think
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Like Orange said the kai realm(Im not good at remembering names, Im talking about where goku trained in a small planet) and the realm Goku live in are just 1 universe
so kai realm + normal universe = universe 7
If they were seperate and had different timeline it'd be low 2c but because they arent it's counted as 1 normal universe
(Im not an expert but I explained the best I can)
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Because nothing being left can just mean all the stuff in Space is destroyed, to presume the statement applies at all the destroying the timeline without further evidence is a pretty big presumption.
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Well he did say that the destruction of the universe will leave a vacuum where nothing is left, and this does mirror the destruction left by the timelines wipe of zeno when they went back in time to get him.
Actually they said the universe is gonna crumble.
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No I just looked it up.
"Hitting each other again and again with power capable of destroying even the universe itself"
"their clash would destroy everything, people, planet, us, there would be nothing left In the universe, just a vacuum made up from nothingness"
it indicates that the show treats them separately, the first statement was later on the fight, while the last statement was early on, indicating that the power gape enabled them to go from "destroy everything in the universe" to "destroying the universe itself"
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Well what does that mean? Does "destroying the universe itself" mean they should be low 2-C or not?
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Since everything in the universe refers to matter it would be 3-A
And since we treat universes as low 2-C, and they were going to destroy the universe itself multiple times. Yes it would be low 2-C
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Upgrade time. Actually I won't because I always have bad luck in these big upgrades.
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Destroying a Universe is 3-A unless explicit evidence is given to point towards it being destroying both the Space and Time of the Universe. A vacuum of nothingness is no such evidence regardless of how similar it is visually to other feats.
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I think orange man meant that we treat universes as low 2-C therefore destroying the universe itself would be low 2-C. I'm pretty sure there was a thread about this, it said that an entire universe is automatically assumed to be low 2-C or something correct me if I'm wrong.
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Nah, Universe statements are 3-A unless Timelines/Time/Parallel Universes are explicitly involved.
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Why? We accept universes as space time, so why isn't destroyed the universe itself [Which you accept as a space time, a low 2-C structure] wouldn't be a low 2-C feat, especially when statement in verse indicates the destruction of matter in universe is lower , requires less energy and different than destroying the very universe itself, especially if that universe is made up from multiple realms and is considered Low 2-C
seems like an arbitrary rule for the sake of being a rule, unless universes aren't space times
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No
Universe statement are low 2-C since a universe is low 2-C, 3-A isn't universal at all, it's literally destroying thing inside the universe on a 93 billion ly scale, destroying a universe is a low 2-C feat
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Universes can also be used to a term that just applies to the Space of a Universe, and as the Wiki's policy is to go with the low end, unless evidence points towards the contrary, any simple Universe statement without elaboration to clarify its about the Space-Time of the Universe is assumed to be 3-A. Don't like it make a thread to change it, as currently this is how the Wiki works regardless of your feelings on the matter.
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I mean it's not like the universes page calls universes a space time, nor is like our universe is a space time, nor like the the wiki treats U7 as a multi realmed space time
and somehow all of this destroying a space time= 3-A according to you.
pretty strange,weird and quite contradictory
and somehow all of this destroying a space time= 3-A according to you.
pretty strange,weird and quite contradictory
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I'm pretty sure this CRT was accepted, which means universal destruction is now assumed to be low 2-C correct?
