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Do you want me to you as a vote for Doomguy now or do you wanna wait of RWBY supporters to comment?Anyway, Doomsayer ***** on Cinder. He outskills to Hell and back (pun intended), resists most of what she can throw at him, and can just turn invincible, multiply his damage by 4, and beat the crap out of her until her Aura breaks. At that point, its over.
Just count me for Doom. I don't know how they can even argue for her when her main attack literally does nothing to him lol.Do you want me to you as a vote for Doomguy now or do you wanna wait of RWBY supporters to comment?
He definitely does not outskill lmao, Yang beat him in skill in the previous thread and Cinder is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yang in skillAnyway, Doomsayer ***** on Cinder. He outskills to Hell and back (pun intended), resists most of what she can throw at him, and can just turn invincible, multiply his damage by 4, and beat the crap out of her until her Aura breaks. At that point, its over.
Firstly, I'd just like to say that it was a bitch and a half to find that thread. Secondly, why tf is any of this shit on her profile? Like, she's only. rated at "skilled martial artist".He definitely does not outskill lmao, Yang beat him in skill in the previous thread and Cinder is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yang in skill
What exactly will she be nuking with?And nothing stops her from just flying out of his range and nuking the battlefield as is in character for her to do
Fire attacks mostly.What exactly will she be nuking with?
Yeah sorry, the pages currently outdated, the RWBY team is currently working on updating the pages as well as writing up a full blog outlining the skill of the verse as it gets brought up so frequentlyFirstly, I'd just like to say that it was a bitch and a half to find that thread. Secondly, why tf is any of this shit on her profile? Like, she's only. rated at "skilled martial artist".
AoE fire, as well as explosive weapons and explosive arrowsWhat exactly will she be nuking with?
He completely unaffected by his ice bombs which fully encases demons in ice.Also if she lands ice on him he's kinda screwed, he resists ice damage but not being fully encased in ice, and Cinder's ice can trap people 10x physically stronger than Doomguy
fair enoughYeah sorry, the pages currently outdated, the RWBY team is currently working on updating the pages as well as writing up a full blog outlining the skill of the verse as it gets brought up so frequently
Fire and the heat from the explosives will literally do nothing, since his armor can walk off a 2 Million degree Celsius laser.AoE fire, as well as explosive weapons and explosive arrows
The bombs he resists encase demons in ice.Also if she lands ice on him he's kinda screwed, he resists ice damage but not being fully encased in ice, and Cinder's ice can trap people 10x physically stronger than Doomguy
we should wait for more arguments to be made at this point, it just startedI vote to Doomguy FRA.
Agreed. Also Koopa, could you retract my vote for Doomslayer? I want to wait for Weekly before decided my vote.we should wait for more arguments to be made at this point, it just started
Its less about the heat and fire and more the force of the explosions and the danmaku of bladed weapons Cinder kinda spams in character. Doomguy has resistances to compensate for the elemental aspects but outside of his powerups, which only last for a limited amount of time, he can still be killed just from taking constant damage.Fire and the heat from the explosives will literally do nothing, since his armor can walk off a 2 Million degree Celsius laser.
The bombs he resists encase demons in ice.
Don't worry about it.Sorry, took longer than expected
Fair. Still, while those powerups are temporary, they give him absolutely monstrous advantages, like a an additional 4x multiplier to his AP advantage and invulnerability. This is also not including his other variety of stat boosting powerups that he could use in succession to keep the pressure on her even when the previous ones run out.Its less about the heat and fire and more the force of the explosions and the danmaku of bladed weapons Cinder kinda spams in character. Doomguy has resistances to compensate for the elemental aspects but outside of his powerups, which only last for a limited amount of time, he can still be killed just from taking constant damage.
Ice bomb
The ice bomb is one of the auxillary weapons in Doom Eternal. Fired from the shoulder-mounted launcher of the Praetor suit, the ice bomb is a projectile that douses the target in "freezing gasses", causing a flash-freeze. The frozen enemy is then left immobile and helpless, and shatters after...doomwiki.org
"Fired from the shoulder-mounted launcher of the Praetor suit, the ice bomb is a projectile that douses the target in "freezing gasses", causing a flash-freeze. The frozen enemy is then left immobile and helpless, and shatters after enough damage has been inflicted upon them."
This seems to be more akin to full freezing than encasement, as the enemies hit physically shatter when struck.
True, though this does get counterbalanced by Cinder's Aura, which is able to protect her from attacks several times her physical durability, as well as additional forcefields she can create thanks to her Maiden powers and her ability to freely fly away if she realizes shes being overpowered in CQC.Fair. Still, while those powerups are temporary, they give him absolutely monstrous advantages, like a an additional 4x multiplier to his AP advantage and invulnerability. This is also not including his other variety of stat boosting powerups that he could use in succession to keep the pressure on her even when the previous ones run out.
Eh not exactly, Doomguy's resistance is towards internal freezing, Cinder's is external, she's not freezing him internally shes just trapping him in a block of ice strong enough that people on par with Cinder in strength and power cant escape. Doomguy's ice resistance wouldnt really help him there.Wouldn't this just provide a better resistance, since its encasement vs full freezing?
That wouldnt really do anything, Aura breaks leading to instant incap isnt a thing beyond the Beacon arc, the cast as a whole are trained to the point of being able to keep fighting even after their aura goes down, and they dont get any weaker or less durable when their aura goes down, it just leaves them open to actually being hurt. Also, Cinder's Maiden powers dont come from her Aura, so breaking her Aura wouldnt really hinder her ability to fight, in comparable terms breaking her Aura is like destroying Slayer's Praetor Suit.and beat the crap out of her until her Aura breaks. At that point, its over.
If she tries to fly away Doomguy can use his Super Shotguns Meat Hook to pull himself too her or use one of his numerous weapons like his Rocket Launcher which can shot homing rockets, or the BFG which shoots a projectile with releases tendrils that can paralyze foes.True, though this does get counterbalanced by Cinder's Aura, which is able to protect her from attacks several times her physical durability, as well as additional forcefields she can create thanks to her Maiden powers and her ability to freely fly away if she realizes shes being overpowered in CQC.
Does the hook even have range that far? And what stops her from just dodging the hook?If she tries to fly away Doomguy can use his Super Shotguns Meat Hook to pull himself too her
Homing rockets are nothing new, characters far below cinder in both speed and skill are able to shoot swarms of homing rockets out of the air casuallyor use one of his numerous weapons like his Rocket Launcher which can shot homing rockets,
The BFG would be useful if not for its projectile being very, very slow, much slower than would ever viably hit Cinder
The hook comes out almost instantly and Doomguy could try to hook her as soon as she begins to fly away to avoid the range problem.Does the hook even have range that far? And what stops her from just dodging the hook?
Doomguy can use Chrono Strike to slow time and leave Cinder open to a blast from the BFG.The BFG would be useful if not for its projectile being very, very slow, much slower than would ever viably hit Cinder
Cinder is over 10x physically stronger than him and he doesnt really have a way to anchor himself, all hooking would do is get him dragged into the air until she just breaks the chain.The hook comes out almost instantly and Doomguy could try to hook her as soon as she begins to fly away to avoid the range problem.
Chrono Strike would work but it has a pretty sizable cooldown, and the BFG isnt a guaranteed oneshot if Cinder's aura is still upDoomguy can use Chrono Strike to slow time and leave Cinder open to a blast from the BFG.
The Meat Hook uses what ever it hooks into as an anchor and pulls the user towards it, and even without the hook, Vega can create a portal for Doomguy that goes to where ever Cinder fly's off too.Cinder is over 10x physically stronger than him and he doesnt really have a way to anchor himself, all hooking would do is get him dragged into the air until she just breaks the chain.
It may not but it does leave Cinder open for a follow up like another BFG shot or a melee attack (Such as a Blood Punch or alternatively a slash from ether his Chainsaw or the Crucible) while she's paralyzed.Chrono Strike would work but it has a pretty sizable cooldown, and the BFG isnt a guaranteed oneshot if Cinder's aura is still up
So it needs to physically impale whatever it's being shot at in order to hook into it?The Meat Hook uses what ever it hooks into as an anchor and pulls the user towards it, and even without the hook, Vega can create a portal for Doomguy that goes to where ever Cinder fly's off too.
I mean, that would hurt but it wouldnt be lethal to Cinder thanks to her aura, and the time slow itself only lasts for a split second befor eit goes on cooldown, it's not something he can spamIt may not but it does leave Cinder open for a follow up like another BFG shot or a melee attack (Such as a Blood Punch or alternatively a slash from ether his Chainsaw or the Crucible) while she's paralyzed.
The Meat Hook doesn't need to impale a target to hook into it iirc.So it needs to physically impale whatever it's being shot at in order to hook into it?
iirc Chrono Strike lasts a few seconds in game and it recharges around the same rate it drains, so while he cant spam it he should be able to use it fairly often.I mean, that would hurt but it wouldnt be lethal to Cinder thanks to her aura, and the time slow itself only lasts for a split second befor eit goes on cooldown, it's not something he can spam
Basically, does it work on forcefields? If not it wont really helpThe Meat Hook doesn't need to impale a target to hook into it iirc.
A few seconds is a long time for a fight between FTL charactersiirc Chrono Strike lasts a few seconds in game and it recharges around the same rate it drains, so while he cant spam it he should be able to use it fairly often.
I'm pretty sure we consider it time slow cause it's called a time slow in game iirc but yeah it does kind of seem like self-perception manip (Like what mario characters have with zone speed)Just to be clear, is chrono strike being treated as if Doomguy slows time while being unaffected himself? If so then I don't think that's the case since in the gameplay doomguy is slowed down too and the purpose of the rune is primarily to help with aiming precise attacks (such as at enemy weak points).
I'm not 100% sure. I believe it was able to hook into Khan Maykr forcefield but I'm gonna have to rewatch her fight to find out.Basically, does it work on forcefields? If not it wont really help
The seconds are just an in game time and their might not even be a recharge time in cannon.A few seconds is a long time for a fight between FTL characters