A MCU character fights a comic character (Complete)

[The_Impress]

Don't know if this'll work, both of their power sets are similiar, but let's try it anyways.

Captain Marvel (Marvel Cinematic Universe) vs. Human Torch.

Speed Equalized, Torch's Supernova restricted.

 

[Ionliosite]

Human Torch is 1.8 teratons. What's Marvel's AP?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

She's casually above baseline low 6-B.

 

[The_Impress]

Carol's > 1.7 teratons

 

[Ionliosite]

So the AP difference is minimal.

 

[The_Impress]

Basically Carol has

-Invulnerability (For some unknown duration) and precog

-Oneshotting physical hits due to Torch being 9-A in physical dura

-Temperature resist to a point (casually tanked heat from atmospheric reentry)

Torch on the other hand, has

-More experience and skill

-Better flight and evasion

-Energy resist

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

Carol's got a 33.6 teraton feat technically.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Carol's got a 33.6 teraton feat technically.

Where?

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

Well the missiles were calculated at 2.8 teratons and she tanked 12 of them.

 

[PhantomØ4]

They do not become one singular attack tho. Why would you just stack the energy?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Well the missiles were calculated at 2.8 teratons and she tanked 12 of them.

By that logic, taking 12 punches from Carol is 33.6 teratons.

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

They do not become one singular attack tho. Why would you just stack the energy?

They all hit her at once and she was fine. Why wouldn't the yields be combined?

 

[PhantomØ4]

More like they hit her consecutively

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Also, that's technically Calc Stacking, which we have strict rules against.

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

More like they hit her consecutively

I see it now. It looks as if one or two actually explode on her, most of the others detonated before she got in their range. And whatever was left after the inital blasts of the rest. That's still roughly 2.8 teratons each, a decent amount higher than Torch's used feat.

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

Also, that's technically Calc Stacking, which we have strict rules against.

That's one of the most stupid things this site could ever do.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

A 2x difference is pretty minor really.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

That's one of the most stupid things this site could ever do.

Read here: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Calc_Stacking

Make a CRT if it bothers you.

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

Those examples are rather poor to apply here. If I take a nuke with a calculated yield and throw it at a character, and they brush it off then that character's durability should be scaled above the nuke's yield. How is that a problem?

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

A 2x difference is pretty minor really.

Considering the speed difference, yeah.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Considering the speed difference, yeah.

Speed Equalized.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Those examples are rather poor to apply here. If I take a nuke with a calculated yield and throw it at a character, and they brush it off then that character's durability should be scaled above the nuke's yield. How is that a problem?

False Equivalency. Real life items don't fall under calc stacking. What you described is literally how we treat it.

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

False Equivalency. Real life items don't fall under calc stacking. What you described is literally how we treat it.

The pot calls the kettle black it seems. Your claiming stuff is forbidden when you then say the site uses it that way. You're not making sense.

And at equal speed....then Carol has an edge with superior power.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Let me bring up an example.

Cole MacGrath is 350 Gigatons, or High 6-C. The Beast is capable of taking up to 300 hits from Cole before going down. Multiplying 350 Gifatons by 300 gets us 105 Teratons, or High 6-B durability. See the issue? That's a massive difference for someone who is able to fairly fight against a High 6-C.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

The pot calls the kettle black it seems. Your claiming stuff is forbidden when you then say the site uses it that way. You're not making sense.

And at equal speed....then Carol has an edge with superior power.

Real life is consistent. Fiction isn't. Real life cares about physics, fiction doesn't. We cannot judge them under the same standards.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Anyways, back on topic. Carol wins. Tourch is way more skilled and mobile, but Danvers just needs one hit to win. Strength advantage and resistanc, however minor, helps her endure until she lands that hit.

 

[Godzilla_King_of_the_Monsters_2019]

Let me bring up an example.
Cole MacGrath is 350 Gigatons, or High 6-C. The Beast is capable of taking up to 300 hits from Cole before going down. Multiplying 350 Gifatons by 300 gets us 105 Teratons, or High 6-B durability. See the issue? That's a massive difference for someone who is able to fairly fight against a High 6-C.

The difference here though is that this feat is virtually simultaneous. She had least one detonate in her face and didn't really get fazed, thus she must be above their yield by logic.

I see what you're saying but the accusation is incorrect.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Yeah, we know she's above their yield, that's not the point.

Cole can also launch several projectiles at once, and many of them hit The Beast simultaneously. Doesn't change the fact that the AP doesn't stack like that.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

In fact, let's rework the example a bit.

Cole's Pincer Strike technique causes him to launch 6 attacks at once. Coles uses the technique on The Beast and he shrugs it off. 350 gigatons x 6 = 2.1 Terratons, or Low 6-B durability. Yet, Cole is later able to blast half The Beast's face off. That wouldn't be possible if his durability was 6x higher than Cole's AP. Therefore, Calc Stacking still doesn't stand in this particular instance, regardless of simultaneous hits.

 

[The_Impress]

Umm, guys, please stop derailing the thread, argue this at someone's wall.

First vote for Carol:

Peter's Girlfriend: 3

Peter's Boyfriend: 0

 

[The_Impress]

Bump

 

[Ionliosite]

MCU FRA

 

[The_Impress]

Bap

 

[The_Impress]

Bamf

 

[Schnee_One]

Carol FRA

 

[The_Impress]

Beep

 

[The_Impress]

Braap

 

[The_Impress]

Bzzt

 

[The_Impress]

Boom

 

[The_Impress]

Bop