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A possible Low 1-C in my mario?? (possible mario cosmology upgrade)

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in my last post i talked about how universes in mario lore are macrocosms as i explained here

basically to summarize , universes are stated to be macrocosms and each of these worlds being infinite in size and having their own space-times , which the statements comes from professor Egad who was talking about how boos defies their dimension laws of science in which would have general relativity which talks about the nature of space-time continuums

now don't worry , the proposal isn't about Mario himself but actually the very nature of dimensions in a single macrocosm

now why i am bringing up this

in super paper mario is where we delve deeper in these worlds in nature , as mario has the ability to flip dimensions with his flip ability

in game , we see a character named Red who tells mario that he actually got clipped in a freaky parallel dimension

in that dimension People couldn't hear nor see Red at all despite the passage of time being the same

the thing is that mario can actually enter this so called dimension just by manipulating the fabric of space meaning that this so called dimension is actually located IN same fabric of space

Meaning this freaky parallel dimension is actually another dimension of space that Red ended up getting clipped at

in paper mario color splash Huey doubles down on this as he say that going in 3-D is the same as perceiving this spatial dimension

showing that space in mario contains 4 dimensions due of the 2-D state characters can perceive 3 dimensions while the 3-D state is a dimension where people cant see nor perceiving it and time being 1 dimensional making a single world a 5-D in structure

BONUS

there is things called images which are labeled as mysteries

these mysteries aka images are worlds

these mysteries are present in universe

there is infinite/unfathomable amount of mysteries in cosmos



In conclusion

the world in 2-D (normal state) is where characters perceives 3 dimensions

the world in 3-D is a spatial dimension in same fabric of space where characters cant perceive in 2-D which makes this spatial dimension the fourth dimension of space

a single world in total should be low 1-C for being a 5-D construct in nature (4 dimensions of space + 1 dimension of time)

a single Universe/Macrocosm should house innumerable amount of worlds via having infinite mysteries present in cosmos and these mysteries being worlds themselves



Agree:
Disagree:
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The scans themselves look interesting, but I recommend putting all of this in a blog or at least working with some people to organize this into a more comprehensive way; after all, this is a massive change to a very popular verse. Makes the process a whole lot easier, you know?

Regardless, imma be neutral for now.
 
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The scans themselves look interesting, but I recommend putting all of this in a blog or at least working with some people to organize this into a more comprehensive way; after all, this is a massive change to a very popular verse. Makes the process a whole lot easier, you know?

Regardless, imma be neutral for now.
okay i will try to make a big blog about it , and also i dont know almost anyone to work with but i will try my best

and also i am kinda new here so there is that
 
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okay i will try to make a big blog about it , and also i dont know almost anyone to work with but i will try my bet
I recommend checking out the discussion thread to find people willing to help (trust me, there’s plenty of people that I think would).
 
UPDATE

the blog has been released for those who want to see the points that i brought up in this thread in more in-depth and there is more content that explains more about the mario cosmology

in which you can check it here
 
UPDATE

the blog has been released for those who want to see the points that i brought up in this thread in more in-depth and there is more content that explains more about the mario cosmology

in which you can check it here
You should share that blog in Mario general discussion thread, it will get more attention there
 
seems ok
worlds being infinite in size
not entirely sure since it just implies space is endless. The last time I saw this scan the only thing that was concluded was this being High 3-A at the most.
universes are stated to be macrocosms
not sure, sure bleck by this scan introduces the idea of bleck wanting to destroy the universe and its many dimensions. I guess I'm fine with this? Open to hearing why this but again there's no explicit word of "macrocosms"
Note that the only language that supports infinite amount of mysteries is in the Italian version. And I don't usually buy or agree with using languages that isn't 1 to 1 with the Japanese text in this case since the mario franchise is from a Japanese company. So I don't agree with the bonus mysteries being viable for the upgrade.
showing that space in mario contains 4 dimensions due of the 2-D state characters can perceive 3 dimensions while the 3-D state is a dimension where people cant see nor perceiving it and time being 1 dimensional making a single world a 5-D in structure
not sure. Neutral for now.
You aren't getting far.
comments like these aren't necessary at all.


Call me a centrist, fence sitter, or whatever, but yeah this is all I have to share for now. I'm open to hearing others thoughts.
 
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I don't think the paranormal world has to be a higher dimension it could just be a world with different laws of physics that that don't cooperate nicely with the main world.
i will explain on why the paranormal world IS a higher plane of existence

there is too much evidence that says that the paranormal world is a higher dimension due of ghosts in luigi mansion 2 , because is clearly stated by professor egad that luigi cant let too many ghosts in mortal world otherwise their entire world will collapse upon itself due of the essence that the ghosts carries to world of the living , this shows that ghosts mere existence can break a normal world apart if there is a plethora of them roaming around in world

it isnt about the world itself not meeting with another world due of different laws of physics , is about the different levels of existence as letting too many ghosts from the paranormal world roaming around the world of the living can cause the normal world to collapse

showing why the paranormal world should be a higher dimension because it supports the ghosts existence unlike the normal world

imagine a being that its essence that is good in his plane but just by arriving at lower plane it causes that said plane to collapse just because it doesn't support the entity level of existence in that world

same is happening here


see what i mean my friend?

also i wanted to be more clear and in-depth to be more clear for you to understand more about the paranormal world

as this is no way of attacking you
 
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not sure, sure bleck by this scan introduces the idea of bleck wanting to destroy the universe and its many dimensions. I guess I'm fine with this? Open to hearing why this but again there's no explicit word of "macrocosms".
oh i can explain more clearly if you want , the reason why i label universes in mario as macrocosms is due of multiple reasons matter of fact , the first reason is that the events that takes place in super paper mario isn't actually mario home universe but instead a parallel universe with its own worlds

Toad comes from not only a different dimension but a different world that is different from flipside

the mushroom knigdom holds dimensions of his own

showing that these universes clearly holds their macrocosms that contains plethora of worlds in it

you can go to the thread that talks about the macrocosm clearly here
 
i will explain on why the paranormal world IS a higher plane of existence

there is too much evidence that says that the paranormal world is a higher dimension due of ghosts in luigi mansion 2 , because is clearly stated by professor egad that luigi cant let too many ghosts in mortal world otherwise their entire world will collapse upon itself due of the essence that the ghosts carries to world of the living , this shows that ghosts mere existence can break a normal world apart if there is a plethora of them roaming around in world

it isnt about the world itself not meeting with another world due of different laws of physics , is about the different levels of existence as letting too many ghosts from the paranormal world roaming around the world of the living can cause the normal world to collapse

showing why the paranormal world should be a higher dimension because it supports the ghosts existence unlike the normal world

imagine a being that its essence that is good in his plane but just by arriving at lower plane it causes that said plane to collapse just because it doesn't support the entity level of existence in that world

same is happening here


see what i mean my friend?

also i wanted to be more clear and in-depth to be more clear for you to understand more about the paranormal world

as this is no way of attacking you
The problem is that would imply ghosts should scale
 
The problem is that would imply ghosts should scale
i dont think their level of existence is what scales them via AP or anything , my argument is that the paranormal world can support the ghosts existence while the normal world cant as the ghosts from the paranormal world would collapse it if they stayed in mortal world for too long via professor Egad statements

which shows that the normal plane CANT support their existence while the paranormal world can which shows the different levels of existence that these worlds shows in nature
 
That took a number of ghosts
yet the normal plane couldnt handle the ghosts existence and also in game even if you get rid almost all of the ghosts , if you leave one ghost roaming around....its existence would still collapse the normal plane as the mission is to get all the ghosts out before the world of living break as time limit in game , meaning even if it is ONE ghost the time limit was still running meaning that the world was still being in process of destruction even if it is one ghost that comes from the paranormal world
 
It's implied all the ghosts in the mansions under the dark moon are from the dimension.
 
UPDATE yet again


hello guys i just want to say that i am going to post a big blog about the 5-D arguments of this thread in much higher detail since i seen fellow members being not sure of the arguments that i gave for these upgrades as i come to realize that it sounds a bit off some of my arguments of these possible upgrades

i will create a new blog in detail about these new arguments as it will be very soon

and also the thread can be closed since the thread arguments for the possible upgrades in cosmology are now outdated in my opinion

and god bless ya
 
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