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The Magia Record Metaphor: The scans used to prove Madoka sees everything as fiction comes from the event Hereafter in Magia Record. As you may notice by skimming through the video, the actual content relating to Ultimate Madoka is only about a tenth of the event as an introduction. It's an explanation of Ult. Madoka's perspective of the Magia Record timeline, though very fairy-tail Esque narrating. To fit this narrating, they also had to change some things around, for example: nerfing the multiverse to 2-B and removing her omnipresence, having the stars 'fall asleep', or even resting her elbow on the ring of a planet; with several more examples if you'd watch the five-minute portion in the video. The point here being, the story isn't to be taken literally.
This metaphor is also never used ever again, even in-game, even in Ultimate Madoka's own side-story.
Even if it was accepted, this is not 5-D. What makes the fiction - reality feats super upgrade material is also what makes it hard to understand. Treating the verse as a record isn't what makes a character an entire seperate higher existence from them, but the idea that they're not even tangible to the other because of how much lower they are. Like the comparsion of a ripping a piece of paper for 2-Ds vs 3-Ds, the idea is misunderstood. As even the paper is still 3-D, which goes to show how hard it is to describe the gap between 2-D and 3-D.
Transcending Homura's Hammerspace: Transcending a singular 4-D hammerspace of unknown size is normally unqualifiable, at best Low 2-C. Not sure how this was proof for Low 1-C but maybe I missed something.
The Magia Record Metaphor: The scans used to prove Madoka sees everything as fiction comes from the event Hereafter in Magia Record. As you may notice by skimming through the video, the actual content relating to Ultimate Madoka is only about a tenth of the event as an introduction. It's an explanation of Ult. Madoka's perspective of the Magia Record timeline, though very fairy-tail Esque narrating. To fit this narrating, they also had to change some things around, for example: nerfing the multiverse to 2-B and removing her omnipresence, having the stars 'fall asleep', or even resting her elbow on the ring of a planet; with several more examples if you'd watch the five-minute portion in the video. The point here being, the story isn't to be taken literally.
This metaphor is also never used ever again, even in-game, even in Ultimate Madoka's own side-story.
Even if it was accepted, this is not 5-D. What makes the fiction - reality feats super upgrade material is also what makes it hard to understand. Treating the verse as a record isn't what makes a character an entire seperate higher existence from them, but the idea that they're not even tangible to the other because of how much lower they are. Like the comparsion of a ripping a piece of paper for 2-Ds vs 3-Ds, the idea is misunderstood. As even the paper is still 3-D, which goes to show how hard it is to describe the gap between 2-D and 3-D.
Transcending Homura's Hammerspace: Transcending a singular 4-D hammerspace of unknown size is normally unqualifiable, at best Low 2-C. Not sure how this was proof for Low 1-C but maybe I missed something.