A Small Change to the Reality-Fiction Interaction Page

[PrinceofPein]

On the Reality-Fiction page we have this

For example, Azathoth, The Law of Identity, and Featherine Augustus Aurora are able to look at beyond dimensional structures as mere fiction.

The problem is that, Featherine is now baseline 1-A not Tier 0 or High 1-A, meaning she no longer looks at Beyond-Dimensional Structures as fiction. so she needs to be removed.
Also the law of Identity too should be removed since the entire rating she has has been contested and still been contested in a dead CRT, Instead it should be changed to a more solid page.
Here are the two pages that I think are fine for Featherine and Law of Identity to be changed into
The Amaranth and The Fireman

And that will be all

 

[KLOL506]

I have no idea how to deal with Reality-Fiction interaction shenanigans outside of Mxy and Deadpool so uh...

 

[PrinceofPein]

I have no idea how to deal with Reality-Fiction interaction shenanigans outside of Mxy and Deadpool so uh...

It is not really changing the standards, but changing the examples used.
The current examples, the characters are either with shaky ratings or no longer qualify based on their current profile.
These is just to change those examples

 

[KLOL506]

It is not really changing the standards, but changing the examples used.
The current examples, the characters are either with shaky ratings or no longer qualify based on their current profile.
These is just to change those examples

Ah.

In that case, looks fine at a glance, but you should contact the verse experts as well.

 

[Antvasima]

@Ovy7 @CrimsonStarFallen @DontTalkDT @Ultima_Reality @Matthew_Schroeder

Does this change seem fine to you?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

I am fine with this change

 

[Ovy7]

This seems fine. Thought it would be a more complex CRT (when I saw the notification), but just changing the examples used on the page shouldn't be a problem IMO.

 

[Dereck03]

This seems pretty uncontroversial tho.

 

[Ovy7]

Tho thinking more about it, I'm not sure if "beyond dimensional structures" fits with our new tiering system.

 

[ImmortalDread]

This seems pretty stipulatory, tho. I think those characters are added due to their popularity.
The examples you have given are perfect ones due to their nature.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Tho thinking more about it, I'm not sure if "beyond dimensional structures" fits with our new tiering system.

I guess you are correct, but I can't think of a better wordings than "spatial-temporal dimensional structures"

 

[Ovy7]

That also doesn't really work, space-time isn't any longer limited to a tier like in the old system.

Hmm, maybe just remove that example entirely, as it's already covered by our tiering system? Or, if we still want an example, use something lower and easier to define, like someone who sees a 11D structure as fiction vs someone who does the same to a 3D one?

 

[ImmortalDread]

That also doesn't really work, space-time isn't any longer limited to a tier like in the old system.

Hmm, maybe just remove that example entirely, as it's already covered by our tiering system? Or, if we still want an example, use something lower and easier to define, like someone who sees a 11D structure as fiction vs someone who does the same to a 3D one?

I am thinking of “the Presence” example, but his tier will be changed anyway.

 

[PrinceofPein]

That also doesn't really work, space-time isn't any longer limited to a tier like in the old system.

I am not talking about space and Time but strictly, spatial-temporal dimensions that can be written in coordinates.

 

[Antvasima]

So would somebody here be willing to update the page?

It might be best to wait for DontTalkDT to respond regarding what we should do about the mention of beyond-dimensional structure though.

 

[ImmortalDread]

So would somebody here be willing to update the page?

It might be best to wait for DontTalkDT to respond regarding what we should do about the mention of beyond-dimensional existence though.

Structure*

 

[Vietthai96]

Not a staff so sorry for commenting, but the current tiering system don't use Beyond Dimensional Structure anymore, so it should be removed, Beyond Dimensional Existence is not actually beyond dimension either, we decided to keep the name because we can't find other name for the ability, i remember DT or Kingpin proposed the name Aspatio-Temporal Existence but well we decided to keep the name BDE altogether. So yeah we should remove that term Beyond Dimensional Structures

 

[PrinceofPein]

So would somebody here be willing to update the page?

It might be best to wait for DontTalkDT to respond regarding what we should do about the mention of beyond-dimensional existence though.

My suggestion is that it becomes "Spatial Dimensional Structures" but yes, lets wait for him

 

[Elizhaa]

The changes in the OP seem fine.

 

[Ultima_Reality]

I believe the above issue can be solved by just replacing "beyond-dimensional structures" with "1-A structures." Not really anything too complicated.

 

[ImmortalDread]

I believe the above issue can be solved by just replacing "beyond-dimensional structures" with "1-A structures." Not really anything too complicated.

Agreed. This makes more sense

 

[Antvasima]

Well, "Outerverse level structures" might sound better, but I otherwise personally don't mind.

It still seems best to wait for DontTalk though.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Well, "Outerverse level structures" might sound better, but I otherwise personally don't mind.

It still seems best to wait for DontTalk though.

Both are the same, actually, but I prefer the 1-A structure better; it seems easy to spell and memorize. People use 1-A more than outerverse/outerveral. So ya
Besides all, 1-A is more recognizebale.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I suppose that might work as well then.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

1-A or Outerversal structures, the exact wording doesn't matter too much imo, it makes for a suitable replacement.

 

[PrinceofPein]

We can wait some days to a week for DT and after which if there is no response I think we can apply this.

 

[Antvasima]

I sent him a PM about it earlier, so I hope that he will respond soon.

 

[DontTalkDT]

I don't care which examples we list, so they can be replaced. But that TLOIs rating is contested is false and honestly needs to stop being said. The CRT is finished. The people that disagreed with the rating didn't wish to debate further. People that don't wish to debate not liking the ratings doesn't make them contested. Virtually every popular character on this wiki has some people disliking how its rated.

What mentioning Beyond Dimensional Structures: Yeah, that preferably should be replaced by "Outversal Structures", "1-A structures" or something of the nature, given that not all beyond dimensional structures are above Mr. Mxyzptlk or even 3D anymore.

 

[PrinceofPein]

I guess this is fine to apply

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, would you be willing to handle it if I unlock the page?

 

[PrinceofPein]

Yes, would you be willing to handle it if I unlock the page?

Sure, I can

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. Tell me here when you are done please.

Reality-Fiction Transcendence

It is not uncommon in fiction for characters to view lesser realities as if they were fiction, in much the same way as a real world human would view fiction. Frequently that comes in the form of almighty author characters which can freely rewrite those lesser realities. The other way around...

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[PrinceofPein]

Thank you. Tell me here when you are done please.

Reality-Fiction Transcendence

It is not uncommon in fiction for characters to view lesser realities as if they were fiction, in much the same way as a real world human would view fiction. Frequently that comes in the form of almighty author characters which can freely rewrite those lesser realities. The other way around...

vsbattles.fandom.com

It is still locked

 

[ImmortalDread]

It is still locked

I think you have the option to edit it. Refresh your browser.

 

[PrinceofPein]

Thanks and all done, this can be closed now

 

[Dereck03]

I've locked the page.

 

[ImmortalDread]

This thread can be closed @Antvasima

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. I will do so. Thank you to everybody who helped out here.