About Acausality

[Cloozuma]

Does being outside of Logic and Reason qualify for Acausality Type 4?

 

[BluudyManikin777]

That’s not good enough context

 

[Cloozuma]

That’s not good enough context

I mean like Anos and Graham themselves have it for the same reason

 

[Dereck03]

Anos and Graham exist outside the framework of the world, order, reason and logic.

 

[Cloozuma]

Anos and Graham exist outside the framework of the world, order, reason and logic.

Literally these two.

 

[Dereck03]

You need specific feats to support being out of reason and logic, if only I knew if you are referring to any character.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

Well you didn’t list just those two, idk, I’m not really a knowledgeable person on Acausality, but I know when the context given isn’t enough for something

 

[Planck69]

Without context, no. And really, comparing different verses with different circumstances is a poor choice. That and the fact that a verse you cite as an example might be incorrect about it.

 

[Dereck03]

If a character exists and functions outside the order or logic, cause and effect of the world as a whole, it is sufficient to give it Acausality 4. But you need feats and context to back it up.

 

[Cloozuma]

Without context, no. And really, comparing different verses with different circumstances is a poor choice. That and the fact that a verse you cite as an example might be incorrect about it.

Okay then. I was gonna post an ability that may qualify for Josuke's bubbles having Acausality Type 4. Sorry for the comparison.

 

[Cloozuma]

You need specific feats to support being out of reason and logic, if only I knew if you are referring to any character.

Josuke8 has bubbles that transcend the logic of the calamities of WoU, which is the Logic of the world.

 

[Dereck03]

Josuke8 has bubbles that transcend the logic of the calamities of WoU, which is the Logic of the world.

I do not know if transcending the logic of the world is enough to guarantee a character Acausality 4.... You can transcend logic, but I don't know if in this case you are still bound to the laws of the world along with cause and effect since they are very different things from just logic.

 

[Cloozuma]

I do not know if transcending the logic of the world is enough to guarantee a character Acausality 4.... You can transcend logic, but I don't know if in this case you are still bound to the laws of the world along with cause and effect since they are very different things from just logic.

Logic is related to Fate and Destiny iirc.

 

[Dereck03]

Transcending logic is more like the user performing actions that should be impossible, making it seem as if the logic or reason of the world does not exist, something akin to Law manipulation.

 

[Cloozuma]

Transcending logic is more like the user performing actions that should be impossible, making it seem as if the logic or reason of the world does not exist, something akin to Law manipulation.

Pretty much these would help you

 

[Cloozuma]

Read Chariot's comment and Manu's scans. Not doing Appeal to Authority but it should work ig.

 

[manu_zarri]

Josuke8 has bubbles that transcend the logic of the calamities of WoU, which is the Logic of the world.

that's alredy acausality type 4 because Bubbles trascends the logic of calamity, that's the flow of fate and reason

 

[Dereck03]

As far as I am concerned I don't think that just transcending logic is enough to guarantee the user Acausality 4, as far as I can see it is very vague, I will take for example.... Anos... he exists outside the framework of the world, he does not follow the laws, neither the cause nor the effect nor the order nor the logic and the reason.

 

[Dereck03]

that's alredy acausality type 4 because Bubbles trascends the logic of calamity, that's the flow of fate and reason

If we talk about it being related to Fate, then it would make more sense.

 

[manu_zarri]

As far as I am concerned I don't think that just transcending logic is enough to guarantee the user Acausality 4, as far as I can see it is very vague, I will take for example.... Anos... he exists outside the framework of the world, he does not follow the laws, neither the cause nor the effect nor the order nor the logic and the reason.

Dosen't really matter.. the Logic of calamity is the flow of reason, logic, fate, luck/bad luck, etc..

also, yes trascending logic is type 4, because type 4 realm such a higher dimension if we want make that simple, dosen't have the standard rule of logic like our universe, indeed in law manipulation page you find:

• Characters with type 5 and possibly type 4 Acausality may be unaffected.

 

[Dereck03]

Dosen't really matter.. the Logic of calamity is the flow of reason, logic, fate, luck/bad luck, etc..

also, yes trascending logic is type 4, because type 4 realm such a higher dimension if we want make that simple, dosen't have the standard rule of logic like our universe, indeed in law manipulation page you find:

• Characters with type 5 and possibly type 4 Acausality may be unaffected.

this make more sense to me... anyway, you guys just need to make a CRT so that it can be accepted

 

[Cloozuma]

this make more sense to me... anyway, you guys just need to make a CRT so that it can be accepted

Yeah this is just a question to start with, I'll be making a CRT once the AP upgrades are done

 

[manu_zarri]

Yeah this is just a question to start with, I'll be making a CRT once the AP upgrades are done

this make more sense to me... anyway, you guys just need to make a CRT so that it can be accepted

As chariot said, we should wait for the end of wou arc (some months), because josuke's ability could possibly be explained (I doubt, but better to wait)

 

[Cloozuma]

As chariot said, we should wait for the end of wou arc (some months), because josuke's ability could possibly be explained (I doubt, but better to wait)

WoU arc already ended, we just need Chariot's AP upgrade to be done

 

[manu_zarri]

WoU arc already ended, we just need Chariot's AP upgrade to be done

?, not really.. next chapter in few days (like 14)

 

[Cloozuma]

?, not really.. next chapter in few days (like 14)

Let's talk in Discord so it could flow better

 

[manu_zarri]

Let's talk in Discord so it could flow better

ok