About Chara and Frisk

[MarvelFanatic119]

Is it possible to add Acausality to Frisk and Chara's profiles considering:

-Chara destroyed the game, which included the timeline they existed in and had no effect on them

-Frisk still existed after Asriel erased the timeline via Hyper Goner, which is the one where they climbed Mt. Ebott and into the Underground, which should have erased them there and then due to the fact they wouldn't be there with Asriel if they never went to Mt. Ebott (This would only apply to Max Determination Frisk), same case with Omega Flowey since he destroyed the game too

Thoughts on this?

 

[Stevethebarbarian]

Well, Flowey didn't actually destroy the game, he just disrupted it.

I don't know if this makes a difference.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Well, he did erase everything, the only thing waiting for you when you go back is Omega Flowey waiting to kill you over and over, within an empty void.

Though Asriel definitely erased the timeline.

 

[Stevethebarbarian]

True enough.

I personally beleive that Chara and ASRIEL are definitely at least one dimensional state above everything else in the verse, and possibly quite a few more than that in ASRIEL's case.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Thought Chara already had it. I'll add it.

I'll add it to Frisk's as well, but it should be noted this only applies if they have high enough Determination, beforehand.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Thank you, Azzy.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Not a problem.

I also finally added Frisk's Regenerationn.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

That's good to know.

 

[Ichwillpopcorn]

But Asriel didn´t reset the timeline, if he did he would turn into Flowey again. Omega Flowey said that they are going to kill humans and monstery, not that he did kill them.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

He clearly states he would destroy the timeline, not reset:

"Now, ENOUGH messing around! It's time to purge this timeline once and for all!" (Before Hyper Goner)

Hyper Goner: The strongest attack Asriel uses while still only toying with Frisk. He transforms into an enormous, frightening goat skull before devouring the entire timeline.

The reason why he wasn't affected by the timeline is because he is Acasual , he's not affected by the flow of time. Regardless if he reset or destroys the timeline has no effect on him. He would only reset after destroying Frisk.

Flowey couldn't destroy the world because the barrier required seven Human souls to be destroyed, he only had six at the time.

 

[Ichwillpopcorn]

He clearly states he would destroy the timeline, not reset:

"You know... I don't care about destroying this world anymore. After I defeat you and gain total control over the timeline... I just want to reset everything."

Asriel states that he wants to reset the timeline and that he has to kill Frisk in order to do so. Also, Frisk can´t be acausal since resetting and loading affects his damage and health.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

"You know... I don't care about destroying this world anymore. After I defeat you and gain total control over the timeline... I just want to reset everything."

Asriel states that he wants to reset the timeline and that he has to kill Frisk in order to do so. Also, Frisk can´t be acausal since resetting and loading affects his damage and health.

He (Asriel) destroyed the timeline they were in while fighting, Frisk would have been erased then and there if that was true. Remember that the UTverse is full of countless timelines, not just a few, which is why the God tiers are 2-A. And this only applies to Max Determination Frisk (2-B) only as this was the only instance they showed to be Acausal.

 

[Ichwillpopcorn]

He (Asriel) destroyed the timeline they were in while fighting, Frisk would have been erased then and there if that was true. Remember that the UTverse is full of countless timelines, not just a few, which is why the God tiers are 2-A.

But he said that he would gain total control after Frisk was dead. Since he wasn´t able to kill Frisk, he couldn´t reset the timeline.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

But he said that he would gain total control after Frisk was dead. Since he wasn´t able to kill Frisk, he couldn´t reset the timeline.

Because their Determination at the time was so powerful it rivaled Asriel's, which is why he couldn't do reset then and there.

 

[Ichwillpopcorn]

Because their Determination at the time was so powerful it rivaled Asriel's, which is why he couldn't do reset then and there.

Exactly.

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

Okay, since that's settled, can someone close the thread now?