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Aizen vs Vergil

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Sosuke Aizen

Sosuke Aizen (藍染あいぜん 惣そう右介すけ, Aizen Sōsuke?) is the former captain of the 5th Division in the Gotei 13. He later leaves Soul Society with his followers, Gin Ichimaru and Kaname Tosen. His lieutenant was Momo Hinamori. He formerly served as the lieutenant of the 5th Division under Shinji Hirako...
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Vergil (Devil May Cry)

Vergil (バージル, Bājiru?) was one of the twin sons born from the demon Sparda and human Eva and is the main antagonist of Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening and a playable character in its special edition. After the demon invasion, when a younger Vergil managed to survive alone and mistakenly...
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Both 4-A
SBA
Speed Equal
 
Aizen has the passives in Spirit and Shinigami physiology, as well as the passive E.E. Also, the starting move is 4d RW.

and it has tremendous evolution
 
Robo432343 said:
can aizen interact with AE type 1?
i forgor demons still had that
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AE Type 1 is applicable to their true form, not to their physical bodies
Anyways, Vergil stomps him via layered passive 4D soul hax, fear hax, mind hax and power null
 
Also Aizen can't do really anything about Mid-Godly here so I don't think its fair anyway
 
Spectra_Schiffer said:
as well as the passive E.E
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Aizen's passive EE has not been used in battles for a very long time.
Note: Whilst Aizen having Passive Existence Erasure is undeniable, whether or not it possesses specific in verse weaknesses is still in dispute and as such, a possibly rating was granted. This should not affect VS battles.
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Also, the starting move is 4d RW.
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Even if I ignore the fact that the Hogyoku has a Low-2C range without sufficient proof that it can affect the entire universal space-time continuum. Aizen still doesn't specifically start with that.
 
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Robo432343 said:
dante vs yhwach wasn't a stomp
maybe the AE 1 isn't supposed to be an argument in vs threads
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Yhwach being able to harm Dante was not a factor. The argument was whether the Almighty's defensive applications could keep Yhwach alive indefinitely. Considering the Almighty's defensive abilities are far more extensively shown than its offensive abilities, that's probably Yhwach's best ability anyway.

In Aizen's case, I suppose the Hogyoku regeneration is his equivalent, depending on how it matches against Vergil's regeneration nullification and other hax.
 
Random-Helper323 said:
Yhwach being able to harm Dante was not a factor. The argument was whether the Almighty's defensive applications could keep Yhwach alive indefinitely. Considering the Almighty's defensive abilities are far more extensively shown than its offensive abilities, that's probably Yhwach's best ability anyway.

In Aizen's case, I suppose the Hogyoku regeneration is his equivalent, depending on how it matches against Vergil's regeneration nullification and other hax.
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Hogyoku is only Mid-Godly, so Vergil can Regen Neg cuz I don't see resistance to it
 
Ang4I00 said:
Hogyoku is only Mid-Godly, so Vergil can Regen Neg cuz I don't see resistance to it
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Ouch. In that case I'm not sure Aizen can stop Vergil from just undoing him.

InB4 Dante and Ichigo beat up the winner and then go for some pizza.
 
Aizen lacks the motivation so he loses by default. Anyway seriously speaking, Vergil have CM+HDE based regen negation so Hogyoku won't save Aizen. Fate and RW hax is useless here against Vergil who already is immune to it and then there is fear hax from Vergil which would be argued to be beyond Aizen's paygrade coz it works on HDE scale as well as being layered to hell and back.
 
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CodeCCLL said:
So tell me, how many times has the hogyoku done this? Among the many battles Aizen participated in, it should not be difficult to find a few examples where the hogyoku fulfilled Aizen's wishes.
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Even the reason for Aizen's defeat was due to the hogyoku. Likewise, in the Ichigo battle, Aizen always evolved against Ichigo and the reason for this was that this was what Aizen wanted (to surpass Ichigo).

Hogyoku does whatever Aizen's heart desires, it's that simple.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Aizen's passive EE has not been used in battles for a very long time.


Even if I ignore the fact that the Hogyoku has a Low-2C range without sufficient proof that it can affect the entire universal space-time continuum. Aizen still doesn't specifically start with that.
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The "Should not affect VS Battles" I think is referring to it being contentious or a possibly rating should not affect vs battles instead of it being unusable

Pretty weird note though.
 
SuperSonicTL said:
Also i need an explanation for this "4D" RW coz i don't remember anything like that.
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You can go look at Aizen's profile, if you want context for RW just go look at Aizen's profile again, if you still can't figure it out I'll take the trouble to explain it, although I think Vergil already has 4D RW resistance (according to what Robo said)
 
but if Vergil has resistance to it and Aizen has no ae 1 interaction this match needs to be shut down, damn stomp matches are annoying
 
I guess Vergil can resist all of the hogyoku related features like fate MP/RW and Aizen can't resist things in Vergil's inventory. I can't see wincon for aizen
 
Spectra_Schiffer said:
You can go look at Aizen's profile, if you want context for RW just go look at Aizen's profile again, if you still can't figure it out I'll take the trouble to explain it, although I think Vergil already has 4D RW resistance (according to what Robo said)
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Give a simple explanation here 🗿
 
SuperSonicTL said:
Give a simple explanation here 🗿
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Sosuke Aizen

Sōsuke Aizen (藍染 惣右介, Aizen Sōsuke) is the former captain of the 5th Division in the Gotei 13. He later leaves Soul Society with his followers, Gin Ichimaru and Kaname Tōsen. His lieutenant was Momo Hinamori. He formerly served as the lieutenant of the 5th Division under Shinji Hirako. After...
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Just read it is quite understandable and I don't have time to explain because I'm on the phone.
 
So, Aizen's hax generally bounce off Vergil, his reality warping is extremely unreliable and unpredictable and even if it wasn't Vergil resists it, and Vergil is one of the few characters with enough soul resistance to not just have his soul crushed by Aizen looking at him and deciding he doesn't like him.

In return, Aizen's regeneration is negated and Vergil's other hax such as madness and concept are horrifying to Aizen, and combining Vergil's spacial cutting with his regeneration negation (with concept hax attached to those attacks and madness hax being basically passive) basically ruins Aizen.

Only wincon I can imagine is Aizen's influencing. Vergil's entire existence has always revolved around how pathetic he is and his desire to be bigger than he is. He's always wanted to prove he was bigger either than Sparda or Dante, and he flushed his entire life down the toilet and slaughtered an entire city to prove that. If Aizen could convince Vergil that he could help him it might do something, except that Vergil would want to prove he was stronger than Aizen too. It is hard to control someone who would want to crush Aizen as well. If Aizen could simultaneously stroke Vergil's giant ego and manipulate him, he might be able to influence him. Keeping in mind that would require Aizen act like he sees Vergil as stronger than him, which we all know would rub against Aizen's way of doing things as well.

This is a stomp unless Aizen can somehow influence Vergil to side with him, keeping in mind this would require acting physically submissive which goes against Aizen's own pride, and the last person who influenced Vergil to work with him got betrayed by Vergil. What's more, Vergil was shown to be able to influence Nero to act against his own interests.
 
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I'm fairly sure demons have had concept manipulation used in versus threads, but he doesn't need it anyway.

So, Aizen convinces Vergil he can help him feel bigger than he is, and convinces Vergil not to kill him, or Vergil stomps him.
 
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Random-Helper323 said:
I'm fairly sure demons have had concept manipulation used in versus threads, but he doesn't need it anyway.
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Yamatos concept hax really was only for him splitting himself into V and Urizen. I can see Mundus using his concept hax in character or Sparda, but not Dante or Vergil.
 
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