Andy vs Thor

[Arkenis]

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Equal Speed
BOS Andy, Victor can be used
Thor knows his weaknesses

Andy scales 563 Megatons, Victor scales 1.689 Gigatons
Thor scales 467.39 Megatons, higher with awakened power

 

[Arkenis]

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[Arkenis]

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[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

the truth is I don't know about Undead Unluck, what does Andy have?

 

[Arkenis]

A sword, and his blood. You can see basically everything in the pna section or intell section.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Well, those 467.39 megatons comparing with Thor would be the same as comparing an ant and a human, although Thor has less LS, what is Andy trying?

 

[Arkenis]

Well, those 467.39 megatons comparing with Thor would be the same as comparing an ant and a human, although Thor has less LS, what is Andy trying?

Close combat and using the sword for cutting his head off.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Close combat and using the sword for cutting his head off.

So Thor likes hand-to-hand combat - decapitating him would be a difficult move, especially since Thor, by covering him, has the opportunity to attack. Should he destroy Andy's brain or a little beyond that? it's not something Thor wouldn't try in character (he also has knowledge about his regeneration

 

[Arkenis]

So Thor likes hand-to-hand combat - decapitating him would be a difficult move, especially since Thor, by covering him, has the opportunity to attack. Should he destroy Andy's brain or a little beyond that? it's not something Thor wouldn't try in character (he also has knowledge about his regeneration

Yeah it'd be difficult but I think Andy's quick to use his speed amps. He'll likely wear Thor down enough he can get the hit. LS could let him just take the hammer too.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Yeah it'd be difficult but I think Andy's quick to use his speed amps. He'll likely wear Thor down enough he can get the hit. LS could let him just take the hammer too.

I'm not familiar with Andy's amplifiers, I don't know how he uses them

 

[Arkenis]

I'm not familiar with Andy's amplifiers, I don't know how he uses them

Statistics Amplification (Can increase his attack power and speed with repair boost with various techniques such as Crimson Crescent Moon)
Is able to pierce through Void's armor with parts bullets.

Main ways for this arc at least.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Statistics Amplification (Can increase his attack power and speed with repair boost with various techniques such as Crimson Crescent Moon)
Is able to pierce through Void's armor with parts bullets.

Main ways for this arc at least.

Mmmmm I don't see that in terms of AP Andy means much trouble for Thor, although his speed amplifier raises my doubts about its effectiveness

Thor is on par with Lu Bu, later, he would end up surpassing Lu Bu's Sky Eater to the point of ripping off his arm. So I don't see Andy harming Thor or Thor not being able to harm Andy, the AP difference leans towards Thor.

 

[Arkenis]

Mmmmm I don't see that in terms of AP Andy means much trouble for Thor, although his speed amplifier raises my doubts about its effectiveness

Thor is on par with Lu Bu, later, he would end up surpassing Lu Bu's Sky Eater to the point of ripping off his arm. So I don't see Andy harming Thor or Thor not being able to harm Andy, the AP difference leans towards Thor.

Andy can grab the hammer from Thor. And his repair parts let him pierce Unavoidable's armor while his regular attacks couldn't, it'll definitely pierce Thor unless Thor's durability has some upscaling. If all does fail for putting Thor down, Andy will let Victor fight.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Andy can grab the hammer from Thor. And his repair parts let him pierce Unavoidable's armor while his regular attacks couldn't, it'll definitely pierce Thor unless Thor's durability has some upscaling. If all does fail for putting Thor down, Andy will let Victor fight.

Thor can make attacks at long distances , it is also mentioned that he has great aim when throwing the mjolnir, I don't see Andy doing the mjolnir, but because Thor is not throwing the mjolnir yet. Thor is able to withstand the power of Awakened Mjölnir, who could withstand and master Lü Bu's Sky Eater technique, his durability is higher than his amplifier. Thor not only kills a character who has more than 467.39 megatons in a single shot, but he treated as fodder an army of Giants who trampled soldiers who should be greater than 467.39 Megatons

 

[Arkenis]

Thor can make attacks at long distances , it is also mentioned that he has great aim when throwing the mjolnir, I don't see Andy doing the mjolnir, but because Thor is not throwing the mjolnir yet. Thor is able to withstand the power of Awakened Mjölnir, who could withstand and master Lü Bu's Sky Eater technique, his durability is higher than his amplifier. Thor not only kills a character who has more than 467.39 megatons in a single shot, but he treated as fodder an army of Giants who trampled soldiers who should be greater than 467.39 Megatons

These don't link anywhere. But Thor fights up close I'm not really convinced Andy will never be able to grab the hammer. I guess Thor's more durable but Andy would probably activate Victor after his repair parts aren't enough to put him down.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

These don't link anywhere. But Thor fights up close I'm not really convinced Andy will never be able to grab the hammer. I guess Thor's more durable but Andy would probably activate Victor after his repair parts aren't enough to put him down.

like I said Thor can attack at long range , he treats the giants as fodder, who trample soldiers stronger than 467.39 megatons. with one shot he already defeated someone who exceeds 467.39 megatons. Thor is trampling Andy, and Victor has a lead of 3,614 times AP on the 467.39 megaton scale, Thor is more than 3,614 times the 467.39 megaton scale

 

[Arkenis]

like I said Thor can attack at long range , he treats the giants as fodder, who trample soldiers stronger than 467.39 megatons. with one shot he already defeated someone who exceeds 467.39 megatons. Thor is trampling Andy, and Victor has a lead of 3,614 times AP on the 467.39 megaton scale, Thor is more than 3,614 times the 467.39 megaton scale

Andy has greater LS, he can just take the hammer. Idk how else to say this. Can you prove Thor scales to High 7A, arbitrary upscaling doesn't automatically get you being 3x stronger.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Andy has greater LS, he can just take the hammer. Idk how else to say this. Can you prove Thor scales to High 7A, arbitrary upscaling doesn't automatically get you being 3x stronger.

I don't see Andy trying to take the Mjolnir from Thor, any attempt to hold it will end with a devastating blow from Thor at the slightest try
Thor with Mjolnir awake>Sky Eater by Lu Bu>Thor casual=Lu Bu>Giants>Guardian angels=/>one shot the pervert>467.39 megatons
The same work makes it clear to you the great superiority of the Gods and Humans who participate in ragnarok over the other fodders who should trample the 467.39 megatons of human Lu Bu

 

[Arkenis]

I don't see Andy trying to take the Mjolnir from Thor, any attempt to hold it will end with a devastating blow from Thor at the slightest try
Thor with Mjolnir awake>Sky Eater by Lu Bu>Thor casual=Lu Bu>Giants>Guardian angels=/>one shot the pervert>467.39 megatons
The same work makes it clear to you the great superiority of the Gods and Humans who participate in ragnarok over the other fodders who should trample the 467.39 megatons of human Lu Bu

He's got better LS, he can just grab it when Thor tries swinging it. An arbitrary scaling chain, all you've proven is that he scales above 467, Andy does as well and has amps of his own.

How does Thor deal with their regen? Sure he has heat based attacks with the hammer and can cause brain damage, but unless he's got a way to contain Andy or can knock Andy out for at least one hour, or incapacitate him for a day, he'll get back up. Then there's Victor's ap advantage and his ability to duplicate himself. This is assuming Thor can outlast Andy before Andy decides to let Victor handle it, at which point Thor would have wounds and now be facing a much stronger and skilled opponent with greater range.

With or without Victor, I see Andy outlasting Thor and wearing him down long enough he'll eventually put a bullet in his head or heart OR Victor comes out and kills Thor quick.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

He's got better LS, he can just grab it when Thor tries swinging it. An arbitrary scaling chain, all you've proven is that he scales above 467, Andy does as well and has amps of his own.

How does Thor deal with their regen? Sure he has heat based attacks with the hammer and can cause brain damage, but unless he's got a way to contain Andy or can knock Andy out for at least one hour, or incapacitate him for a day, he'll get back up. Then there's Victor's ap advantage and his ability to duplicate himself. This is assuming Thor can outlast Andy before Andy decides to let Victor handle it, at which point Thor would have wounds and now be facing a much stronger and skilled opponent with greater range.

With or without Victor, I see Andy outlasting Thor and wearing him down long enough he'll eventually put a bullet in his head or heart OR Victor comes out and kills Thor quick.

Yes, but trying to endure it, any blow from Thor tramples Andy. Also, is there somewhere where I explain arbitrary strings? Actually the scale of Thor and Shuumatsu in general is more than 3x, the 467 megaton scale is very outdated (the string shown shows that it is more than 3 times larger but the outdated profile does not show it)

Thor knows that to kill him, he has to destroy his brain or attack Andy's medium-high regeneration to stop it from working

 

[Arkenis]

Yes, but trying to endure it, any blow from Thor tramples Andy. Also, is there somewhere where I explain arbitrary strings? Actually the scale of Thor and Shuumatsu in general is more than 3x, the 467 megaton scale is very outdated (the string shown shows that it is more than 3 times larger but the outdated profile does not show it)

Thor knows that to kill him, he has to destroy his brain or attack Andy's medium-high regeneration to stop it from working

You need a stated number to argue they're multiples times stronger and how we do upscale, 467 megatons is not enough to argue for even if they one shot. It doesn't kill Andy, it slows his regen down, Thor either needs to keep it going long enough to be a win. Knowing Andy, if he's put in that situation, he'll just escape.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

You need a stated number to argue they're multiples times stronger and how we do upscale, 467 megatons is not enough to argue for even if they one shot. It doesn't kill Andy, it slows his regen down, Thor either needs to keep it going long enough to be a win. Knowing Andy, if he's put in that situation, he'll just escape.

hello, I forgot about the versus...so...how Andy is being killed, high average reg wouldn't be a problem since Thor knows his reg

 

[Arkenis]

hello, I forgot about the versus...so...how Andy is being killed, high average reg wouldn't be a problem since Thor knows his reg

I think Andy's mid-high regen would be an issue even with the weaknesses. Thor isn't killing him so he needs to find a way to incap him and I haven't seen any way he'd do that.

 

[Mommyleona]

Andy stomps ngl. what is Thor supposed to do to Andy? Let alone to Victor. I dont see a real wincon for Thor

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

I think Andy's mid-high regen would be an issue even with the weaknesses. Thor isn't killing him so he needs to find a way to incap him and I haven't seen any way he'd do that.

High-Mid: The ability to regenerate from being blown/cut to pieces, brain included, or from a small piece of the user's body, such as a finger, or the heart.

Thor can, in a certain time frame of attacks (which he's been trying from the start, since he knows his average regen is high), be surpassing Andy's high average regen.

 

[Arkenis]

Thor can, in a certain time frame of attacks (which he's been trying from the start, since he knows his average regen is high), be surpassing Andy's high average regen.

Andy's is Mid-High. He'd have to turn him to dust completely and keep him that way for an hour or incap him through brain damage for a hour. Thor's not dusting him for obvious reasons, but Thor's got a chance of keeping him down through brain damage and heat damage. I don't see it getting to that point due to Andy's intelligence and higher LS to push Thor away or grab his hammer or beat down Thor before he's realized that's what he'll need to do.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Andy's is Mid-High. He'd have to turn him to dust completely and keep him that way for an hour or incap him through brain damage for a hour. Thor's not dusting him for obvious reasons, but Thor's got a chance of keeping him down through brain damage and heat damage. I don't see it getting to that point due to Andy's intelligence and higher LS to push Thor away or grab his hammer or beat down Thor before he's realized that's what he'll need to do.

Okay, we're on a fine line, Thor can (and will) with a combination of attacks, negate Andy's regen, his hammer is big enough to split Andy in half while unleashing a series of blows (if we're talking about awakened Mjolnir) that are vaporizing blood, I don't know how feasible it is for Andy to snatch Mjolnir from Thor (or if that move would even be useful to him in the first place), but as Bru said, he values nothing in this world, it even seems like when he gets angry, he uses his lightning in a more offensive way, regeneration isn't a problem for Thor, from what I'm seeing, Andy can't withstand Thor's presence, he's really doing little in the face of his aura.

 

[Arkenis]

Okay, we're on a fine line, Thor can (and will) with a combination of attacks, negate Andy's regen, his hammer is big enough to split Andy in half while unleashing a series of blows (if we're talking about awakened Mjolnir) that are vaporizing blood

Andy a master swordsman I think he'll be fine countering swings from a giant hammer especially with the higher LS and ap. He's not negating the regen, just slowing it down, and knowing Andy he'll realize this soon enough and go for a different approach. Andy survived the heat from a meteor, vaporizing blood or water won't harm his regen enough.

I don't know how feasible it is for Andy to snatch Mjolnir from Thor (or if that move would even be useful to him in the first place),

Well it's Thor's main win con so it'll be useful. Andy's pretty used to grabbing/grappling, he'd just do it to remove the weapon or even use it like he did with his sword.

but as Bru said, he values nothing in this world, it even seems like when he gets angry, he uses his lightning in a more offensive way, regeneration isn't a problem for Thor, from what I'm seeing, Andy can't withstand Thor's presence, he's really doing little in the face of his aura.

Andy's not getting his regen harmed by the lightning unless he's in midair, otherwise the lightning passes through him into the ground, slightly hurting him and he regens the small damage.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

Andy a master swordsman I think he'll be fine countering swings from a giant hammer especially with the higher LS and ap. He's not negating the regen, just slowing it down, and knowing Andy he'll realize this soon enough and go for a different approach. Andy survived the heat from a meteor, vaporizing blood or water won't harm his regen enough.
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well, how hot that's supposed to be (plus, if this isn't a joke, what you're talking to me about 'vaporizing blood or water won't damage its regeneration enough'' is an argument for more than medium-high regulation) plus Andy has less AP than Thor, Even because of how Thor is above a scale that often overlaps the 467.39 megaton scale (I can say Victor too, but I don't want to fall into that game)

Well it's Thor's main win con so it'll be useful. Andy's pretty used to grabbing/grappling, he'd just do it to remove the weapon or even use it like he did with his sword.

Well, if he gets into the H2H game of any shot Thor is destroying his head, I don't see Andy using the Mjolnir as a sword - it's not benefiting him, Thor can still pick up the Mjolnir if Andy throws it and that move to take the Mjolnir should hurt Andy more than help him

Andy's not getting his regen harmed by the lightning unless he's in midair, otherwise the lightning passes through him into the ground, slightly hurting him and he regens the small damage.

Well, he's still a support for Thor, making things easier for him and complicating Andy's battle, so he's not that useless

Which I just want to make clear that Thor's aura is still hurting Andy, and I could stop arguing if Andy's reg ends up being a crazy thing beyond average high that was never specified up to this point (in the first explanation of evaporate Andy) which I don't want to sound bad, but in my eyes this would be a somewhat dishonest versus

 

[Arkenis]

well, how hot that's supposed to be (plus, if this isn't a joke, what you're talking to me about 'vaporizing blood or water won't damage its regeneration enough'' is an argument for more than medium-high regulation) plus Andy has less AP than Thor, Even because of how Thor is above a scale that often overlaps the 467.39 megaton scale (I can say Victor too, but I don't want to fall into that game)

It's hotter than vaporizing of blood which is just 100degrees. The meteors heat would be hundreds of degrees and just regens from the impact. Andy has the higher ap base to base. Thor has nothing demonstrating how high his ap gets in his awakened form, just arbitrary upscaling.

Well, if he gets into the H2H game of any shot Thor is destroying his head, I don't see Andy using the Mjolnir as a sword - it's not benefiting him, Thor can still pick up the Mjolnir if Andy throws it and that move to take the Mjolnir should hurt Andy more than help him

How good is Thor in combat? His intell section is nonexistent. Andy using it does benefit him since it's taking it away from Thor. Andy can always just grab it back.

Which I just want to make clear that Thor's aura is still hurting Andy, and I could stop arguing if Andy's reg ends up being a crazy thing beyond average high that was never specified up to this point (in the first explanation of evaporate Andy) which I don't want to sound bad, but in my eyes this would be a somewhat dishonest versus

When Thor goes into his awakened, I think Andy will decide to let Victor fight and once that happens the aura really won't matter when he's getting overwhelmed by clones and greater ranged attacks. Andy's regen is specified on page, I don't think it's an unfair match, just harder for Thor to win it but still he has the chance to win same way Andy's main con is beating Thor to death or outlasting him through regen.

 

[GAGGamerTheOverlord]

It's hotter than vaporizing of blood which is just 100degrees. The meteors heat would be hundreds of degrees and just regens from the impact. Andy has the higher ap base to base. Thor has nothing demonstrating how high his ap gets in his awakened form, just arbitrary upscaling.

Well, leaving aside the idiotic arbitrary scaling (because I'll actually stop talking about scaling because I should see it with other shuumatsu connoisseurs), Mjolnir's heat is considered by the Gods, who would not mess up because of the heat generated by humans

How good is Thor in combat? His intell section is nonexistent. Andy using it does benefit him since it's taking it away from Thor. Andy can always just grab it back.

Hundreds of years of experience, he defeated an army of giants, he defeated Lu Bu (which is to be considered that this fight like all others is planned by Bru, he was his most "suitable" rival against Thor, and they already had a whole idea up their sleeve for Lu Bu's wincon)

When Thor goes into his awakened, I think Andy will decide to let Victor fight and once that happens the aura really won't matter when he's getting overwhelmed by clones and greater ranged attacks. Andy's regen is specified on page, I don't think it's an unfair match, just harder for Thor to win it but still he has the chance to win same way Andy's main con is beating Thor to death or outlasting him through regen.

So much to say it regenerates from a drop of blood and/or more than I know where you are trying to understand (which is more than medium high, the fact is that he clings to you so much in the reg that I really think you could see that this is giving him the win almost by discard ) and Thor's aura is still working on Andy and Victor (plus Victor is this guy from Low -Godly seems then I really think I lost the desire to argue in this versus unbalanced)

Oh and if there is a blog or an explanation thread about arbitrary chains, pass it on to me, I want to read it

 

[Arkenis]

Hundreds of years of experience, he defeated an army of giants, he defeated Lu Bu (which is to be considered that this fight like all others is planned by Bru, he was his most "suitable" rival against Thor, and they already had a whole idea up their sleeve for Lu Bu's wincon)

Yeah Andy's got hundreds of years of experience too, Victor's got billions. Is there some scaling for the giants skill? I don't see much for Lu Bu being skilled either.

So much to say it regenerates from a drop of blood and/or more than I know where you are trying to understand (which is more than medium high, the fact is that he clings to you so much in the reg that I really think you could see that this is giving him the win almost by discard ) and Thor's aura is still working on Andy and Victor (plus Victor is this guy from Low -Godly seems then I really think I lost the desire to argue in this versus unbalanced)

I don't understand you entirely, can you speak in your regular language and I'll just translate it.