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Another Iruna/Toram CRT: Low 1-C Realm and Higher Dimensional realm.

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Hello everyone it's me again with another Iruna/Toram CRT, this time i will add another addition to toram tiering.

1. A higher dimensional plane/realms.

1.1 Divine Tower

A non physical realm where all the 12 gods reside, this place is a secluded space where nothing can reach it by any physical means.
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The Divine Tower, also referred to as the Shrine of the Gods, is not merely a location but a fundamental stabilizing structure within the world of Iruna. It serves as a vessel that contains and anchors the power of the Twelve Gods, as well as the concepts embodied by them.

The continued existence of the Divine Tower is directly tied to the gods it houses. If a god is destroyed, the corresponding throne within the shrine collapses, and the concept associated with that god ceases to function.

However, there are instances in which the shrine itself is destroyed while the gods continue to exist within another realm, indicating that the structure acts as a conduit or anchor rather than the sole source of their existence.

Through the Divine Tower and its thrones, the gods collectively sustain the stability of the universe and its interconnected worlds. The shrine’s role is therefore integral to maintaining the cosmological structure of Iruna, as its collapse would result in widespread instability across existence.

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From this, it can be concluded that the Divine Tower exists on a higher plane than the main world of Iruna. The absence of time within the Tower further indicates superiority over Iruna’s time dimension, which is already four-dimensional in nature.

1.2 “Doesn’t the stairway mean anyone can enter?”

Not exactly. In Iruna Online, access to the Divine Tower is normally possible only through portals created by the gods themselves. The stairway was not a natural or standard access route, but rather a corridor formed by an external force powerful enough to rival the gods. As a result, the stairway itself enhanced the existence of those who traversed it.

1.3 Clarification of intent

This does not imply that the Divine Tower is infinitely superior to a four-dimensional structure. However, it does indicate that its plane of existence, including its treatment of space and time, is higher than that of Iruna. While the full implications of this distinction are unclear, it remains relevant for later scaling.

2. Noieverre
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Noieverre is a higher-dimensional world that exists on a plane above Iruna. It is repeatedly described as a “high-dimensional” realm and is stated to be physically unreachable through conventional means. Entry is restricted, as only individuals with “noble souls” are permitted to access this world.

Those who are accepted into Noieverre experience an immediate and significant increase in power, indicating that the realm itself inherently enhances the existence of its residents. This amplification is not the result of training or external artifacts, but rather a consequence of existing within Noieverre.

All residents of Noieverre are capable of traveling freely between worlds instantaneously, without being constrained by past, present, or future. This suggests that movement within and beyond Noieverre is not limited by conventional space-time restrictions.

Additionally, the inhabitants of Noieverre are able to observe all worlds simultaneously. This is attributed to their connection with the foundational energies that compose reality, the same underlying forces that shape the worlds themselves. The existence of Noieverre further empowers its residents, allowing them to perceive and traverse the structure of the worlds in ways impossible from lower planes of existence.

1.1 Is it really Higher Dimensional Existence?

As you can all see from the above scan, only those who repeated many rebirth (lives) can enter this realm, and they immediately turned to a spritual existence, in this form they can travel freely everywhere and everywhen (because there's no concept of time there).

One other way is if the residence of Noieverre itself created a pathway inside, which has been stated before that they are empowered by the realm so they use the realm power to create the pathway, this does not disqualify it as a higher dimensional existence because the power comes from the realm not the lower world.

The residence can erase anything from the lower worlds such as existence, life, or even time/history.

Conclusion

1. Divine Tower

The Divine Tower is not merely a physical location, but a higher-dimensional stabilizing structure that sustains the world of Iruna. It functions as a shrine that contains and channels the power of the gods, acting as a foundational anchor for the world’s continued existence.

The gods’ power is directly tied to the stability of the Divine Tower. If a god perishes, the corresponding shrine collapses, and the concept embodied by that god may also cease to exist. However, there are instances where a shrine is destroyed while the god continues to exist in another realm, indicating that the tower is a conduit rather than the absolute source of divine existence.

The absence of time within the Divine Tower, along with its role in stabilizing Iruna, supports the conclusion that it exists on a higher plane of space-time than the main world of Iruna, which is already established as four-dimensional. This suggests qualitative superiority in dimensional structure, though not necessarily infinite transcendence.

2. Noieverre

Noieverre is a higher-dimensional world that exists beyond the plane of Iruna and is inaccessible through conventional physical means. Entry is restricted to those deemed worthy, and acceptance into Noieverre results in an immediate amplification of the individual’s existence and power.

The realm itself inherently empowers its residents, granting them the ability to travel freely between worlds without limitation by past, present, or future. This indicates that Noieverre operates beyond standard space-time constraints.

Residents of Noieverre are also capable of observing all worlds simultaneously and can perceive even the smallest changes occurring within them, including subtle emotional fluctuations. This level of awareness implies a constant, comprehensive connection to the totality of existence across all worlds.

Their abilities are further enhanced by Noieverre’s connection to the fundamental energies that compose reality, placing the realm decisively above Iruna in terms of dimensional hierarchy.


Those who scale will be only some of the residence strong enough and the adventurer (Iruna) via fighting an existence that has been empowered by the realm.

This includes the 12 gods (At least 4-A, Possibly Low 2-C).
The Residence/Existence within Noiverre (Low 1-C, 5-D if accepted).

To Avoid crazy scaling it will be like this:

Adventurer via fighting the twelve gods and dragon gods that can create and manipulate the world of Iruna and other worlds.

Adventurer via fighting a residence of the Noiverre that is empowered by the realm.

Agree:
TheGreatJedi13, Apex_Predator_GX
 
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All of them or just a few?
i'd say the mention of higher plane and the lacking time entirely
while also being in the position to oversee the worlds and all that qualifies for low 1-C
and since this superiority is not through size but rather ascension (since it's a spiritual plane with few examples of physical,s which is only possible through the 2 gods allowing it)
I would say it does qualify enough

thougfh it would be safer if you can find a scan for the size of the higher plane
 
i'd say the mention of higher plane and the lacking time entirely
while also being in the position to oversee the worlds and all that qualifies for low 1-C
and since this superiority is not through size but rather ascension (since it's a spiritual plane with few examples of physical,s which is only possible through the 2 gods allowing it)
I would say it does qualify enough

thougfh it would be safer if you can find a scan for the size of the higher plane
Not yet to find it, but Almas (The God Creator) says that the space is endless (the scan is in the void) but good enough i guess I'm gonna count yo in
 
I'm sorry, being called a high dimension and a higher plane isn't usually sufficient to make something Tier 1. The rest of it seems unrelated to me.
 
Yeah, i don't see tier 1 here, this is pretty much just higher spiritual plane, it is literally stated it is where the soul stay after free from bodies
 
Yeah, i don't see tier 1 here, this is pretty much just higher spiritual plane, it is literally stated it is where the soul stay after free from bodies
That will be the dark domain, not all souls can ascend this, literally only the gods and the past MC (Iruna) souls exist there, and they need to be rebirthed (god know how many times) can finally enter this place, they can affect the worlds but the opposite can't.
 
I'm sorry, being called a high dimension and a higher plane isn't usually sufficient to make something Tier 1. The rest of it seems unrelated to me.
But they act like one no?.

1. Unchanged by the lower worlds (4-D)
2. Doesn't have time and space because they ascend the lower world (Space and time)
3. They can travel to the past, present, and future, even changing what in the past with a future action
4. They are above a time continuum (not to mention space as that is didn't matter for them anyway).
5. This realm is supposedly become the highest realm even above the heaven who exist above Iruna.

They can meddles with the concepts of the lower worlds (Positive and Negative energy didn't exist here).

And if you can, could you tell me what can support them as a 5-D realm?, for future CRT if this somehow really rejected because I'm pretty sure they are a higher dimensional existence, just asking btw.
 
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1. Unchanged by the lower worlds (4-D)
2. Doesn't have time and space because they ascend the lower world (Space and time)
3. They can travel to the past, present, and future, even changing what in the past with a future action
4. They are above a time continuum (not to mention space as that is didn't matter for them anyway).
5. This realm is supposedly become the highest realm even above the heaven who exist above Iruna.
1. Is mostly irrelevant, you can have a dimension that is unchanged when you affecting a different dimension. This proof is at best separation of dimensions. Of course it could help higher-dimensional argument but is a very minor supporting evidence

2. Doesn't have time or space mean a non-physical dimension, this is completely defeat the point of being higher-dimensional, which is an increases in physical dimension. So this realm is either Low 1-A, 1-A or untierable which scale whatever it is but not a +1D. Low 1-A and 1-A requires extraordinary evidences so what left is the last one, scale to whatever it is but not a +1D

3. This is again, like point 1, mostly irrelevant, being outside of time allows for time travel across all of time is not necessary an increases in dimensional, it could help, but just is a minor supporting evidence that is useless if the main one don't meet the requirement

4. Yeah, but again it is a non-physical realm, that is the problem, the only way to solves this non-physical issue is the realm is directly show to be infinitely stronger than the lower realm

5. Well, you can exist above dimensions in term of location, not necessarily higher-dimensional
 
1. Is mostly irrelevant, you can have a dimension that is unchanged when you affecting a different dimension. This proof is at best separation of dimensions. Of course it could help higher-dimensional argument but is a very minor supporting evidence

2. Doesn't have time or space mean a non-physical dimension, this is completely defeat the point of being higher-dimensional, which is an increases in physical dimension. So this realm is either Low 1-A, 1-A or untierable which scale whatever it is but not a +1D. Low 1-A and 1-A requires extraordinary evidences so what left is the last one, scale to whatever it is but not a +1D

3. This is again, like point 1, mostly irrelevant, being outside of time allows for time travel across all of time is not necessary an increases in dimensional, it could help, but just is a minor supporting evidence that is useless if the main one don't meet the requirement

4. Yeah, but again it is a non-physical realm, that is the problem, the only way to solves this non-physical issue is the realm is directly show to be infinitely stronger than the lower realm

5. Well, you can exist above dimensions in term of location, not necessarily higher-dimensional
For point four what example may be sufficient for an infinitely stronger than the lower realms?
Also no space and time just means it's not governed by that, because the bs of hundreds of dialogues it's still exist as a physical one because MC can travel here and also the gods can create a physical structure inside this realms, and these structures are incomparable to the mind of the gods that exist in the lower realms although they have a 4-D mind (You need to understand the mind to create something otherwise the power is just there).
 
Direct namedrop of "infinitely stronger", i can't see there is any other ways than that
I mean wording that could equate to that, i need to search the jp version for more in depth explanation but currently busy with a case (I need to go to court for the next 6 months).
 
I mean wording that could equate to that, i need to search the jp version for more in depth explanation but currently busy with a case (I need to go to court for the next 6 months).
No, nothing other than a direct statement of "this A realm is infinitely stronger, greater" or "this lower B realm is infinitely weaker"

You can't exactly have something that not a direct namedrop but is equivalent
 
No, nothing other than a direct statement of "this A realm is infinitely stronger, greater" or "this lower B realm is infinitely weaker"

You can't exactly have something that not a direct namedrop but is equivalent
Sorry I want to ask again.

If there's a timeline, and in this timeline the original world of Iruna exist with all the shenanigans i already established in the first CRT.

Then there's a time travel involved where we visit the past, in the dialogue they say it's just a memories, but turns out what were doing is changing the past from the future, and the present they exist is because what they are doing in the future to the past.

And there's exist another Iruna (different timelines) where we didn't come the past and the world is ruined.

Could this add a new time axis?
 
Well good try i think i still more time, can somebody close this?.

Thank you.
 
Could this add a new time axis?
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If there's a timeline, and in this timeline the original world of Iruna exist with all the shenanigans i already established in the first CRT.

Then there's a time travel involved where we visit the past, in the dialogue they say it's just a memories, but turns out what were doing is changing the past from the future, and the present they exist is because what they are doing in the future to the past.

And there's exist another Iruna (different timelines) where we didn't come the past and the world is ruined.
This whole shenaningans is so confusing that idek what the hell is it lol

Well good try i think i still more time, can somebody close this?.

Thank you.
Closing
 
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