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If Arale sees the entire Db universe as a piece of paper, doesn't that include Zeno and hypertimeline? If she sees them as fiction, why is Plot Manipulation on the same level instead of being higher than them?
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Arale's Plot Manipulation is 6D
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1-A Arale?!
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I don't think Arale is currently accepted as having a proper RFD over the DB multiverse, I could be mistaken.
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Plot manipulation can't have a dimensionality...
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No.
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Then why arale's only plot manipulation is low 1-C?
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idk, Hax like law manipulation, cm, and such are abstract abilities, that are unaffected by dimensionality, so it would only really be range.
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Relic of the past, surely
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Are you talking about that?
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This is not R>F
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I guess it could be low 1-C in that it can freely manipulate something 5-D. But that only applies to the effects it has physically rather than plot itself.
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Me when range
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to be fair stuff like plot manip can still have 5-D potency in a roundabout way since the potency would be the physical effects
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Agree FRB
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You use a metaphysical aspect to modify a physical stuff, you don't modify directly the physical stuff. If your plot can change 5D stuff, it just means it can affect something 5D, which is range, since be it 3D or infinite-D, there is no difference in term of "difficulty" to change it.
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idk imagine creating like a timeline busting explosion by writing it into the plot. it can still achieve higher-D potency just indirectly and it wouldnt be wrong to list as AP via plot manip
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Tbh, this just seems like range.
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Nobody says this is r>f
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Her plot hax can still be used to manipulate, alter, destroy a Low 1-C construct, so it is still fine to have her AP listed as Low 1-C via Plot hax, the plot hax itself is a metaphysical hax thus it do not have dimensionality, yeah, but its power can affect Low 1-C construct
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pretty much.
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I'm not against her plot manipulation being viewed as 1-A levels of hax, but key word being just hax. She's obviously not physically that level. And I do not think we normally give tiers for "1-A via plot manipulation", I kind of thought that full on that plot manipulation in general is a R>F hax potency even if it doesn't grant tiers. And anyone less than 1-A who lacks resistance to plot manipulation would be susceptible to it.
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I have the same opinion here
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Uhhh....
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agree with giving arale 1-A hax
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Bro ,What Going on??!!!
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Tank1418
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Are you sure?
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There's no R>F though and toribot has way too much anti-feats for that to be considered. Like how he jobs to Arale on a daily basis.
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MeiouHades
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She's gonna kill us all in the server for letting this happenMan @Ss3micah is gonna wake up confused as hell
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No
Just no
As of now the R>F standard has been revamped in such a specific way that if you truly view the universe/world/space-time etc as literal fictional in comparison to yourself (your natural state of being) then it’s 1-A
There is no singular jumps in tiers / dimensionality anymore. It’s either 1-A or nothing when it comes to R>F
And as of now, their are quite a bit of extenuating factors concerning the R>F relationship that would not allow this thread to pass
With that said,
I’m gonna send a request for this to be closed
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