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Archie Sonic VS Joker (rematch)
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FoxySonicMaster108
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Well, that ended quicker than I expected, though I’ll wait.
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Maybe i'm being unfair to this thread, this may not be a stomp.
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Persona currently is having a tier upgrade past low 1-C CRT. This match might quickly be outdated.
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Persona has been getting a lot of revisions recently, good lord.
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It’s not even accepted yet, you guys can debate.
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Not like it matters anyways, 5D joker still stomps, no? He resists sonics fate hax, and has his own.
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That was Base Sonic that lost to Joker, not Ultra Sonic.
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What exactly can Ultra sonic do against jokers fate shit?
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His own fate shit?
Rikimarox2
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Joker resists fate hax that works on type 4 acausality.
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Ok, why don't we have an actually debate instead of assumptions?
FateHax might not be the go to answer, but Ultra Sonic isn't a glass cannon.
FateHax might not be the go to answer, but Ultra Sonic isn't a glass cannon.
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Joker's fatehax is more of a counter to other fatehax really. It would directly nullify Sonic's fatehax in this scenario.
Cognition grants a very very high resistance to all of Sonic's bullshit, leaving Sonic with only AP which gets nullified by Joker's high-godly. Meanwhile Sonic lacks a resistance to information manipulation which means all of Joker's attacks are going to hurt greatly. Not to mention other hax such as sleep manip and fear manip, or chains of rebellion.
Cognition grants a very very high resistance to all of Sonic's bullshit, leaving Sonic with only AP which gets nullified by Joker's high-godly. Meanwhile Sonic lacks a resistance to information manipulation which means all of Joker's attacks are going to hurt greatly. Not to mention other hax such as sleep manip and fear manip, or chains of rebellion.
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Does Cognition multiple Persona's Haxes like Archie's Chaos Emerald scaling does for Archie?
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How much?
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Sonic gets fuuucked
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I honestly don't know if people want see the blue rat burn
or if people think the fast Hedgehog could stand a chanche against those characthers
or if people think the fast Hedgehog could stand a chanche against those characthers
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Since speed isn't equalized, doesn't Ultra Sonic kinda blitz though? The first time Sonic went Ultra, he said that it was faster than he could have ever imagined, which means it's way faster than his immeasurable Super form. Does Joker resist reality warping on a low 1-C scale?
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idk, the persona verse is going threw upgrades rn anyways so this match even if this gets added will be a stomp later
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Actually, thats true. Not only that, as Ultra Sonic, Sonic is stated to continuously get faster the more "time" passes.
Idk know what people are saying about Joker stomping, as Ultra Sonic is passively gaining more speed, even past Speed Equal.
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wouldnt that just break the rules
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How? Amps are a thing and used in VS debates, even in equalization. Amps are a power.
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oh alright then
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Even if he did, Joker can blitz other immeasurables with Sukukaja, and nullify Sonic’s speed with Binds.
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With just 3 rings, base form Sonic managed to completely recover his speed after being stripped away from it completely. As rings are a by-product of the chaos emeralds, the latter should have the same abillity on a MASSIVELY bigger scale. Especially post-harmony, and especially Super emeralds. IF Joker can strip Sonic of his speed, he can't do it for long, and Sonic can just stop time while his speed recovers anyway. (I don't recall seeing a time hax immunity on Joker's profile)
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Agility Bind + Sukunda keeps Sonic’s speed at minimum.
I don’t think stopping time on the guy who has three layers of time manipulation resistance is a good idea.
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How does it work?
Yeah I realized a few minutes after posting and doing something else that this is kinda pointless since they both transcend time with their speed anyway.
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Thought-based Power Null & Stats Reduction that works on your mind, body, information, and concept. It also auto-spawns on you.
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I come back here to see that this forum lit up with activity again, Huh, neat.
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Sonic should be able to recover from power null that targets his physical and mental processing speed, as he already has before. Idk about information and concept though. Could you elaborate on those specifically?
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Every attack, and magic spell targets your mind, soul, information, and concept in Persona.
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