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Archie Sonic vs The Lifebringer
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Unless Galactus becomes High 1-B.
Sonic is far higher on the 2-A scale and he tanks Galactus's goodies, including conceptual manipulation.
So what can Galactus do?
Sonic is far higher on the 2-A scale and he tanks Galactus's goodies, including conceptual manipulation.
So what can Galactus do?
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As far as I can see Galactus gets one-shotted.
ShakeResounding
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Well of he's supposed to be High 1-B, we might as well get it settled and close this.
Until then, it's like what Shadow says. The problem with the Ego vs. Sonic thread was finding concrete evidence of AP for Arcbie 2-As during the time, and we got it w8th a scan Shadow posted. Not only that, but Sonic's resistances cover most of what Galactus can do.
Until then, it's like what Shadow says. The problem with the Ego vs. Sonic thread was finding concrete evidence of AP for Arcbie 2-As during the time, and we got it w8th a scan Shadow posted. Not only that, but Sonic's resistances cover most of what Galactus can do.
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Yeah, Ego gets shitstomped as well.
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14 Pre-Great Harmony Chaos Emeralds = 2-A.
In Great Harmony, all the Chaos Emeralds were fused into a set of 7. There's enough emeralds of each color individually to cover the surface of an entire planet.
Then there's also the fact that Mega Man has his own multiverse and Illumina's dreamworlds are made from the dreams of every being across the infinite multiverse.
In Great Harmony, all the Chaos Emeralds were fused into a set of 7. There's enough emeralds of each color individually to cover the surface of an entire planet.
Then there's also the fact that Mega Man has his own multiverse and Illumina's dreamworlds are made from the dreams of every being across the infinite multiverse.
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"Illumina's dreamworlds are made from the dreams of every being across the infinite multiverse."
Wait isn't this infinitely above baseline
Wait isn't this infinitely above baseline
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If each universe had infinite people it would be.
ShakeResounding
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@Hykuu A bit complicated, so I'll condense it.
The Great Harmony was the sealing of every single Chaos Emerald within the universe into the Zone of Silence. One color alone made up an entire sea of Chaos Emeralds (first and second scan) and covered an entire planet surface, albeit they were scattered about, so logically you'd need the exact same amount for every other color of Emeralds. The Emeralds powers are amplified the more you have, as per common Sonic knowledge, and those hundreds of thousands/possible millions of Chaos Emeralds were fused into a single set of seven (third scan).
Ultra Sonic is being used here as per SBA, who's unquantifiably above that.
The Great Harmony was the sealing of every single Chaos Emerald within the universe into the Zone of Silence. One color alone made up an entire sea of Chaos Emeralds (first and second scan) and covered an entire planet surface, albeit they were scattered about, so logically you'd need the exact same amount for every other color of Emeralds. The Emeralds powers are amplified the more you have, as per common Sonic knowledge, and those hundreds of thousands/possible millions of Chaos Emeralds were fused into a single set of seven (third scan).
Ultra Sonic is being used here as per SBA, who's unquantifiably above that.
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There are also enough green emeralds to make a ocean.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
ShakeResounding
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@Crimson Beat you to it lol
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It's not just the ocean either.
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Seems i was 2 slow.ShakeResounding said:
ShakeResounding
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@Shadow Real quick, could you send me the scan where the 14 Emeralds did the 2-A feat? I couldn't find it.
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@ShakeResounding When this comes in handy.
ShakeResounding
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@Shadow Thanks lol
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A quick reference for the cosmology I drew.
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My problem is even if one dreamer existed in each reality, and there are infinite realities... Wouldn't that be infinitely above baseline ?
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You would be adding infinites not multiplying them.
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Ok
As The Watcher Explains Here, The Marvel Multiverse Is Based off Infinite Quantum Realities, Which each Infinitsmal Difference Creating another Infninite Quantum Realities, Ad infinitum.
Cantor used Set Theory to prove that some infinities are greater than others Before him everyone thought that if you add any number to infinity it remains infinity, and while this is true for most numbers, other numbers and operations can make infinities larger Transfinite is the infinite set of infinities so ∞ [0. 1. 2. ... , ∞ , ∞ +1 , ∞ +2, ...} would be that number and then you can really go crazy and make a set containing all versions of that number.
There is a Transinfinite amount of Neverending Universes In the Marvel Multiverse, Essentially, There exist a Infinite series of Infinite Marvel Universes.
[http:// http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...24860-3224278-drstrangesorcerersupre21-18.jpg "Before one can hope to compehend the Multiverse, in even te most limited way, one must first grasp the notion that the very concept of "Infinity" is relative. For instance: Numbers are infinite. So are odd numbers. Yet, by definition, there are twice as many numbers as there are odd numbers. One "Infinity" is included within a larger "Infinity." (...) Goerg Cantor, a russian monk at the turn of this century, was the first to study what he called "Transfinite" numbers, starting with Aleph - An infinite series of infinite numbers, all greater than each other. Quite understandably, he died a madman. Yet, it is of such concepts and more -- That the Multiverse is made. For the Multiverse is literally a transfinite number -- That is, a number greater than infinity -- of universes. These universes are often popularly called "Dimensions."]
When Adam Warlock Goes Through the Cosmic Vortex via a wormhole iirc, The Cosmic Vortex is essentially a Graveyard of Universes Erased by the UN, Adam Described it as "Spiraling Upwards to a Infinity beyond Infinity"
The Nexus of All Realities itself Contains Countless Doorways, With Each Door leading to a Infinite amount of Possibilities, And there is a Nexus for each Universe in Marvel.
[http:// https://i.imgur.com/9p9j8Jz.jpg "On that note, let's change scenes and return to the Crystal Palace. With It's Unique View of all Creation" "Imagine Dimensions after Dimensions, Stacked one beside each other, stretching across the breadth of Conceptual Infinity"]
Lifebringer Galactus Himself already Scales above Beings who can Effect and Potentially Destroy This Cosmology in a Whim.
As The Watcher Explains Here, The Marvel Multiverse Is Based off Infinite Quantum Realities, Which each Infinitsmal Difference Creating another Infninite Quantum Realities, Ad infinitum.
Cantor used Set Theory to prove that some infinities are greater than others Before him everyone thought that if you add any number to infinity it remains infinity, and while this is true for most numbers, other numbers and operations can make infinities larger Transfinite is the infinite set of infinities so ∞ [0. 1. 2. ... , ∞ , ∞ +1 , ∞ +2, ...} would be that number and then you can really go crazy and make a set containing all versions of that number.
There is a Transinfinite amount of Neverending Universes In the Marvel Multiverse, Essentially, There exist a Infinite series of Infinite Marvel Universes.
[http:// http://static.comicvine.com/uploads...24860-3224278-drstrangesorcerersupre21-18.jpg "Before one can hope to compehend the Multiverse, in even te most limited way, one must first grasp the notion that the very concept of "Infinity" is relative. For instance: Numbers are infinite. So are odd numbers. Yet, by definition, there are twice as many numbers as there are odd numbers. One "Infinity" is included within a larger "Infinity." (...) Goerg Cantor, a russian monk at the turn of this century, was the first to study what he called "Transfinite" numbers, starting with Aleph - An infinite series of infinite numbers, all greater than each other. Quite understandably, he died a madman. Yet, it is of such concepts and more -- That the Multiverse is made. For the Multiverse is literally a transfinite number -- That is, a number greater than infinity -- of universes. These universes are often popularly called "Dimensions."]
When Adam Warlock Goes Through the Cosmic Vortex via a wormhole iirc, The Cosmic Vortex is essentially a Graveyard of Universes Erased by the UN, Adam Described it as "Spiraling Upwards to a Infinity beyond Infinity"
The Nexus of All Realities itself Contains Countless Doorways, With Each Door leading to a Infinite amount of Possibilities, And there is a Nexus for each Universe in Marvel.
[http:// https://i.imgur.com/9p9j8Jz.jpg "On that note, let's change scenes and return to the Crystal Palace. With It's Unique View of all Creation" "Imagine Dimensions after Dimensions, Stacked one beside each other, stretching across the breadth of Conceptual Infinity"]
Lifebringer Galactus Himself already Scales above Beings who can Effect and Potentially Destroy This Cosmology in a Whim.
ShakeResounding
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Tbh this should be closed if Lifebringer should be High 1-B anyways.
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That's definitely well into 2-A... The question is... How far into it ?
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OP what have you done??
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Well.... Let me keep this somewhat simple :
Quantum realities tend to branch off infinitely into infinite timelines because of their nature,and supposedly does this Ad-Infinitum. This is a basic example of a infinitexinfinite above baseline 2-A, and it continues even after that.
Sonic's 2-A's aren't even technically anywhere even remotely near one set of infinity above baseline 2-A, even with the dream stuff and other stuff it has to offer, and dear old Marvel just demonstrated a infinite set of 2-A's due to describing each universe as a quantum reality and hey branch off similarly as mentioned due to the nature of quantum realities ...
SO... AP wise baseline 2-A's likely completely curbstomp Sonic's and are now easily amongst the strongest 2-A's based solely on Multiverse Structure & scaling
Lifebringer >= Chaos & Order >>>>>>> Celestials (Ultimates) Adult Franklin Richards ( Helped keep the Multiverse in check before the Revision Wave, created by him, would destroy all realities. Even heavily weakened by that, he was able to fight the Mad Celestials & was destroying them in combat ) >>> Child Franklin Richards ( Even when massively holding back he fought against the Mad Celestials and was having the advantage ) >> Hickman's Run Celestials >>>>> Regular Celestials are above CC's by transfinite levels of infinity. No sold the Infinity Gauntlet & Ultimate Nullifier ) > Fodder 2-A's like Kubik >>> Beyonder ( Caused the Multiverse to collapse )
Quantum realities tend to branch off infinitely into infinite timelines because of their nature,and supposedly does this Ad-Infinitum. This is a basic example of a infinitexinfinite above baseline 2-A, and it continues even after that.
Sonic's 2-A's aren't even technically anywhere even remotely near one set of infinity above baseline 2-A, even with the dream stuff and other stuff it has to offer, and dear old Marvel just demonstrated a infinite set of 2-A's due to describing each universe as a quantum reality and hey branch off similarly as mentioned due to the nature of quantum realities ...
SO... AP wise baseline 2-A's likely completely curbstomp Sonic's and are now easily amongst the strongest 2-A's based solely on Multiverse Structure & scaling
Lifebringer >= Chaos & Order >>>>>>> Celestials (Ultimates) Adult Franklin Richards ( Helped keep the Multiverse in check before the Revision Wave, created by him, would destroy all realities. Even heavily weakened by that, he was able to fight the Mad Celestials & was destroying them in combat ) >>> Child Franklin Richards ( Even when massively holding back he fought against the Mad Celestials and was having the advantage ) >> Hickman's Run Celestials >>>>> Regular Celestials are above CC's by transfinite levels of infinity. No sold the Infinity Gauntlet & Ultimate Nullifier ) > Fodder 2-A's like Kubik >>> Beyonder ( Caused the Multiverse to collapse )
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Yeah I think Archie Sonic slaps tbh.
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@Paralysis Sonic doesn't have the AP advantage. Hax maybe... And that's a definite maybe.
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@Seed
Hey dude. You should make a thread on that. This is huge, you're saying Marvel's 2-A are infinitely above baseline.
Hey dude. You should make a thread on that. This is huge, you're saying Marvel's 2-A are infinitely above baseline.
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@Crimson
You ask... I deliver
Though seriously I'm unsure who has the hax advantage. I definitely know who I'm voting for in terms of AP though...
You ask... I deliver
Though seriously I'm unsure who has the hax advantage. I definitely know who I'm voting for in terms of AP though...
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Sonic still has the hax advantage.Ap is useless since lol type 8.There is still the infamous fate hax
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