Battle of the Chaos-Loving Gods (Timekeeper Cookie vs Bill Cipher)

[Ar1216789]

Bill is in Low 1-C. Speed is equalized, SBA.

Bill:
Timekeeper Cookie:

 

[ShionAH]

Lack of Immortality + Lack of LS + Lack of Good Range + Starting with something your opponent Resists = Death

 

[Ar1216789]

Lack of Immortality + Lack of LS + Lack of Good Range + Starting with something your opponent Resists = Death

I don't know. She has High-Godly Regen (I applied this to the profile, but the text is appearing wrong since I can't edit it completely because the Timekeepers profile is protected) She has loads of passive abilities or she can send him to a time pocket, which is a place where space-time is essentially transcended, erasing someone from all space and time. Also check "Standard Tactics"

 

[ShionAH]

She has High-Godly Regen

Its not on the profile

She can send him to a time pocket, which is a place where space-time is essentially transcended, erasing someone from all space and time. Also check "Standard Tactics"

Bill literally just gets out, plus if she is using Time Manipulation to BFR him it wont work since Bill resists it.

 

[Ar1216789]

Its not on the profile

Bill literally just gets out, plus if she is using Time Manipulation to BFR him it wont work since Bill resists it.

I explained why I was unable to place it on the profile. I can link the CRT where High-Godly regen was confirmed on all Cookie Run profiles.

Can Bill survive time pockets and time rifts.. I'll link everything they are capable of doing. Also, Strimmy Gummy Cookie needed the help of the Director to get out and he has Dimensional Travel. Timekeeper exists in multiple points and is present and absent in numerous locations and has a buttload of Acausilty (Type 1,2,3) and a lot of good hax. (Time Stop, Causality Manip being one of them, as well as Subjective Reality and other hax)

The question remains if he can survive it and if he can escape in time (We don't even know if Bill is capable of escaping it anyway, which you gonna need to prove the range of his Dimensional Travel)

 

[ShionAH]

Bill's mindscape exists across the multiverse so yeah I think he survives.

Causality and Time is resisted. What can she even do against Bill destroying her soul, mind or concept and or transmutating her/petrifying her which stops her mind and soul.

 

[BlahBlahBlahIAmMe]

I don't know. She has High-Godly Regen (I applied this to the profile, but the text is appearing wrong since I can't edit it completely because the Timekeepers profile is protected) She has loads of passive abilities or she can send him to a time pocket, which is a place where space-time is essentially transcended, erasing someone from all space and time. Also check "Standard Tactics"

More like High-Godly Resistance, which isn't a thing for some reason. Timekeeper doesn't get destroyed by & then regenerate from the effects of time pockets, she just casually exists within them without being affected.

 

[Ar1216789]

Bill's mindscape exists across the multiverse so yeah I think he survives.

Causality and Time is resisted. What can she even do against Bill destroying her soul, mind or concept and or transmutating her/petrifying her which stops her mind and soul.

Cookies have resistance to soul manip and transmuation

Cookies souls are divided into 250 soulstones which you need to collect to harm their soul.

Transmutation is resisted because Cookies are unharmed by the Space Doughnuts Beam, which turns people to doughnuts.

Timekeepers hax are all passive and Bill is gonna need to track down all her locations within space-time. She also exists all over time with precognition and retrocognition.

 

[ShionAH]

None of those are on the profile.

 

[Ar1216789]

Bill's mindscape exists across the multiverse so yeah I think he survives.

Causality and Time is resisted. What can she even do against Bill destroying her soul, mind or concept and or transmutating her/petrifying her which stops her mind and soul.

Shes gonna be existing in multiple points, creating multiple rifts while being invulnerable.

Standard Tactic: She will start out by using Time Manipulation, creating rifts to alternate timelines to BFR them into one of them. She will also be "invincible" during this move, knocking away everything she touches. She periodically uses this move and is able to use Invocation Cards while using this move. All of her Treasures and Pets are passive, and activate their abilities to their fullest efficiency as soon as a battle starts. After this, she is a wildcard

 

[Ar1216789]

None of those are on the profile.

I explained how her profile is protected and I was unable to change it. All info can be found here.

Cookie Run CRT: The Latest Addition to the Low 1-C Crew...?

Oh yeah. 2-A Low 1-C Upgrade The Lunar Compendium states that the World of Dreams contains a countless amount of dreams, and dreams are also stated to have no beginning or end twice, being connected to one another by The Railroad of Endless Dreams (which is also stated to be endless). Dreams...

vsbattles.com

Check "Soul Jam" and "verse-wide"


Transmutation isn't in it, but here are scans for it. Doughnut Beam turns ppl to Doughnuts, didn't work on Cookies.

 

[ShionAH]

Its for "The Five"

 

[BlahBlahBlahIAmMe]

None of those are on the profile.

Due to the CookieRun profiles being outdated & underresearched, as of yet. They're being worked on, though.

 

[Ar1216789]

Its for "The Five"

Sigh. Did you check The Verse-wide? All characters get it but with slightly inferior versions of the abilities. I can't see him survivng Timekeepers passive-transmutation, ee, concept manip (which destroys time infinitely within the battle, i'm aware of his resistance to this, but it could help) She also has invincibility hax.

 

[ShionAH]

I dont ******* understand the verse, and you are linking me CRTs as a mean to show that a character has a power so I'll just leave

 

[Ar1216789]

I dont ******* understand the verse, and you are linking me CRTs as a mean to show that a character has a power so I'll just leave

I explained this to you. Her page is protected and didn't allow me to properly format the CRT'S updates into her profile.

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

Can Bill survive time pockets and time rifts.. I'll link everything they are capable of doing.

In short, yes he can.
Changing Bill with Time-Hax won't really do anything, as Time Baby and Time Agents can't really do shit when they fight Bill (Means, he resist.)
And with the resist he now have, he thus can freely get out of this "time pocket" as he does have a time and place to return.

Timekeeper exists in multiple points and is present and absent in numerous locations

Oh wow, but too bad Bill have "Ciphervoyance".
It's in the profile.

Fun Fact: His eye can see everything related to a "triangle", which mean Timekeeper watching him even from out of the time pocket means she's also get watched by Bill himself, lmao

Time Stop, Causality Manip being one of them, as well as Subjective Reality and other hax

Resist. Lack. And Resist.

She has High-Godly Regen

Not in the profile.
Versus Thread Rules dude, see it, you need to have it in the profile, otherwise you can't bring it as an wincon.

Even then, what aspects is her High Godly Regen? Time? BLA BLA BLA?
You need to specify this, i remember Bugs Bunny get obliterate by Goku History EE even though Bugs have HGR... Wanna know why? Because his HGR, only capable up to regenerating plot, it is not capable on regenerating history.

Which mean, doesn't matter if she has HGR, Bill still obliterate by how much of hax he got listed in his profile.

Cookies have resistance to soul manip and transmuation

Cookies souls are divided into 250 soulstones which you need to collect to harm their soul.

Transmutation is resisted because Cookies are unharmed by the Space Doughnuts Beam, which turns people to doughnuts

Like what Shion has said, not in the profile.

I can't see him survivng Timekeepers passive-transmutation, ee, concept manip

I can't see her affecting his NEP, and AE either.
You can destroy his physical body, but his Mindscape Form still remains.

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

Y'all wincon are just this "Erasing Bill" bs, while have not shown any valiable evidence if she even capable on Erasing Bill's NEP and AE.
Even without allat, Bill's Immortality already cover his death, and by the time he's alive again, Timekeeper won't see anything beside her last moment in life.

If goes by In-Character, Bill tends to play around with the narrative and fourth-wall even destroying it is not a hard thing to do for him, what can she even do when her plot get destroyed by Bill?

 

[Ar1216789]

Y'all wincon are just this "Erasing Bill" bs, while have not shown any valiable evidence if she even capable on Erasing Bill's NEP and AE.
Even without allat, Bill's Immortality already cover his death, and by the time he's alive again, Timekeeper won't see anything beside her last moment in life.

If goes by In-Character, Bill tends to play around with the narrative and fourth-wall even destroying it is not a hard thing to do for him, what can she even do when her plot get destroyed by Bill?

I'll reply to this later in more-detail since i'm in class, but she all her abilities are passive including concept manip, ee, deconstruction, transmutation, will all be passive within the battle. The Time Pockets need higher range of Dimensional Travel in order to escape, and she has a similar ability to Bill. I'll add the rest of Timekeepers Abilities today, I'll ask someone to unlock the profile.

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

The Time Pockets need higher range of Dimensional Travel in order to escape

I just notice Timekeeper's Range is Universal+
Bro gets out very easily even without resisting the effect

and she has a similar ability to Bill

She really doesn't.

 

[Ar1216789]

I just notice Timekeeper's Range is Universal+
Bro gets out very easily even without resisting the effect

She really doesn't.

Did you read the time pocket/rifts scans? They're basically distorted space-times which basically delete you.

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

Did you read the time pocket/rifts scans? They're basically distorted space-times which basically delete you.

Yes, and that's a Universal+ Range, you said Bill need a higher range of Dimensional Travel to escape to which he have Low Complex Range.

Plus, even if you still argue this "he can't escape!1!1!1!" it's not like he didn't resist the said effect lmao.
Even if he did get affected and get erased, blud is still alive due to his NEP and AE (She can't delete this)

Even (again) she can affect NEP (specifically Type 3) and AE (specifically "idea") being, his Immortality still keeps him alive... It's literally not possible.
You can't, you just can't kills him permanently.

 

[ShionAH]

You can't

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[Ar1216789]

Yes, and that's a Universal+ Range, you said Bill need a higher range of Dimensional Travel to escape to which he have Low Complex Range.

Plus, even if you still argue this "he can't escape!1!1!1!" it's not like he didn't resist the said effect lmao.
Even if he did get affected and get erased, blud is still alive due to his NEP and AE (She can't delete this)

Even (again) she can affect NEP (specifically Type 3) and AE (specifically "idea") being, his Immortality still keeps him alive... It's literally not possible.
You can't, you just can't kills him permanently.

Hm.. I guess the win can go to Bill, he outhaxes. (I just saw his profile, lol) I should have put Bill against the Sugar Swan. She has Concept Manip type 1 all concepts.. which is.. insane.

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

Hm.. I guess the win can go to Bill, he outhaxes. (I just saw his profile, lol) I should have put Bill against the Sugar Swan. She has Concept Manip type 1 all concepts.. which is.. insane.

Creation Types, i don't see that as a wincon, just to remind you (Incase you're gonna make a new vsthread)
+ I notice Sugar Swan have AE1 (Nature) while also have Nonduality by Nature, that's... weird. But whatever.

 

[Ar1216789]

Creation Types, i don't see that as a wincon, just to remind you (Incase you're gonna make a new vsthread)
+ I notice Sugar Swan have AE1 (Nature) while also have Nonduality by Nature, that's... weird. But whatever.

She is Nature and created it, before her was nothing and a dual system that governs all of the cosmology, she exists unbound by it. Her true form being an avatar

 

[Ar1216789]

Creation Types, i don't see that as a wincon, just to remind you (Incase you're gonna make a new vsthread)
+ I notice Sugar Swan have AE1 (Nature) while also have Nonduality by Nature, that's... weird. But whatever.

She has Concept Manip Type 1 (all concepts) and Large Size Type as well as Passive EE, and Transmutation, and more hax Active. She also has all abilities in verse but we can't include all of them since the list of abilities would be big.

Shes implied to be capable of creating and destroying the cosmology. The fact she views universes as grains of sugar makes her beat a lot of characters around her level considering her OP hax, same AP, Speed is a problem which I'll address soon (A person she gave powers to has Omnipresence while she does not.) Sugar Swan is also quite literally the essence and balance of the world.

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

Will not gonna derail this thread further, but just want to remind you that her Concept Type 1 is "Creation Type", not "Alteration" or "Destruction"
Which i don't see Creation being Combat-Applicable, and isn't really a wincon for her

 

[Ar1216789]

Will not gonna derail this thread further, but just want to remind you that her Concept Type 1 is "Creation Type", not "Alteration" or "Destruction"
Which i don't see Creation being Combat-Applicable, and isn't really a wincon for her

Timekeeper destroyed the concept of time, Frost Queen altered Nature. As their powers come from her, she would naturally have Altercation and Destruction.

 

[Jepilstiltskin]

Timekeeper destroyed the concept of time, Frost Queen altered Nature. As their powers come from her, she would naturally have Altercation and Destruction.

That's not how it works. She never puts any actual feats on on doing so. This is like saying Character A have Supernatural Luck/Passive Fate Manipulation just because Character B has it with Character A Blessing

 

[Ar1216789]

That's not how it works. She never puts any actual feats on on doing so. This is like saying Character A have Supernatural Luck/Passive Fate Manipulation just because Character B has it with Character A Blessing

Shes the progenitor of the entire cosmology and Cookies.. their very essence being Life Powder. (Which is from Nature) Frost Queens powers come from the Sugar Swan since shes a legit Guardian Cookie, her entire castle and powers are from Nature which she stated herself is literally everything. Sugar Swan also stated she can destroy the cosmology, which would include the abstract concepts. If someone like Frost Queen and Moonlight Cookie can (which are Guardians she gave existence to and bestowed their powers onto to keep Nature in balance)

 

[Ar1216789]

That's not how it works. She never puts any actual feats on on doing so. This is like saying Character A have Supernatural Luck/Passive Fate Manipulation just because Character B has it with Character A Blessing

She also quite literally has all their powers. She is Nature and keeps it at equilibrium. Nature being a divine balance where concepts that contradict each other co-exist, Sugar Swan quite literally is this balance. (Explained in Cosmology Blog and Profile)