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Round one: Base Bazz-B vs Escanor (During Day | Picture)
Round two: Vollstandig Bazz-B vs Escanor Full power
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Bazz-B vs Escanor
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Round one: Base Bazz-B vs Escanor (During Day | Picture)
Round two: Vollstandig Bazz-B vs Escanor Full power
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we have no intel on full power escanor aside from speculations. however his radiated heat is on yamamoto level even at day (1.500.000 degrees - vaporizing people)
going with lord moustache here
edit: its not. yama bankai is 15.000.000 whereas escanor caps out at 1.500.000 - though with way more AOE than yamas
going with lord moustache here
edit: its not. yama bankai is 15.000.000 whereas escanor caps out at 1.500.000 - though with way more AOE than yamas
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Don't forget Yamamoto is 15,000,000 Celsius and Yamamoto's Shikai was offset by Bazz.
Their speed is similar, Bazz is faster in the first round easy. AP is similar too, but with Escanor having that edge in round two.
Their speed is similar, Bazz is faster in the first round easy. AP is similar too, but with Escanor having that edge in round two.
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A normal Sternritter could stand near Yama with Blut when he was in Bankai.
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Escanor.
He is faster and stronger.Pretty much outclasses Bazz in every category.
He is faster and stronger.Pretty much outclasses Bazz in every category.
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wait bazz is faster? how? can i see a calc or feat for that? also: the 1.5million is the weakest form of escanor at dawn with his heat passively radiating - so its very likely its incredible more potent as time passes by (though that can not be quantified as of now)
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Escanor wins due to reasons stated above faster and way stronger.
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You're overrating Escanor.
Also, he Blitzed Ichigo, who was able to intercept Yhwach and he should be vastly superior to Bambi etc, he was around as long as Jugram 1000+ years etc.
Also, he Blitzed Ichigo, who was able to intercept Yhwach and he should be vastly superior to Bambi etc, he was around as long as Jugram 1000+ years etc.
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when did escanor ever show speed feats?
he has super durability and invisible flame feats but this is it,
as for this fight: R1 goes to Bazz because the feats excanor showed currently are making both pretty equal, at least in strength, but speed goes to bazz therefore i chose him,
R2 is with a speculated escanor so i wont make any votes...
he has super durability and invisible flame feats but this is it,
as for this fight: R1 goes to Bazz because the feats excanor showed currently are making both pretty equal, at least in strength, but speed goes to bazz therefore i chose him,
R2 is with a speculated escanor so i wont make any votes...
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^^Escanor's speed is scaled from Galan and Meliodas.
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^maybe he has that speed and maybe not, i would agree with a overall power but maybe escanor isnt that fast since he focuses more on strength :I all i want ot say is that we cant really assume a certain stat because a char is stronger than another in the overall department ^_^
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thats basically how powerscaling works. we for example have no planetlevel feat shown in the entire cell sage, yet everyone knows the participants are stronger than frieza who could level planets.
unless there is clear evidence against it, the powerscaling works just fine.
and in terms of escanor - he dodged even in his night mode attacks from someone with a power level almost similar to demon hendrickson.
there are rumours about escanor becoming LS later on, however thats still nothing but a fan speculation
him being mach 2k+ is just fine as things stand now
unless there is clear evidence against it, the powerscaling works just fine.
and in terms of escanor - he dodged even in his night mode attacks from someone with a power level almost similar to demon hendrickson.
there are rumours about escanor becoming LS later on, however thats still nothing but a fan speculation
him being mach 2k+ is just fine as things stand now
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there is nothing to indicate that
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i know what you are attempting to say - escanor is likely much faster than what he gets scaled to atm. however a specific term or "x times faster" number has yet to be proved. for now he just hangs at mach ~2k+ (which is still faster than bazz b from what i recall)
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cant bazz fly?
this should give him the needed freedom, but i still am sceptical about escanor and his speed, he seems more like a invincible tank exspecially since he is a ripped large man with muscles all over his body, and his sacred weapon is a super-super-heavy short axe
this should give him the needed freedom, but i still am sceptical about escanor and his speed, he seems more like a invincible tank exspecially since he is a ripped large man with muscles all over his body, and his sacred weapon is a super-super-heavy short axe
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Ok, no. Just no. Escanor's slash caught Galan off guard, so saying that he can't be scaled to Galan is sort of ridiculous. Additionally, he noticed Galan running away after Galan had powered up to full power (meaning he may be even faster than his calc'ed speed). But anyways, this isn't the thread for that.
I don't know why you are saying "Day Escanor." Escanor's power jumps right to large mountain level (at least) at dawn and increases every instant until it reaches noon, which is the height of his power. Right now, we know at most about Late Morning Escanor's power, which is like 2-3 hours maximum after Dawn (so 8-9 AM). I don't know where these numbers for Escanor's heat are coming from, but they are from (at best) a half power Escanor.
Additionally, it says that Bazz-B is mountain level. Galan is mountain level, powered up to an unquantifiable degree and did (pic-related) damage
to Late Morning Escanor, who did not defend against the attack at all.
Additionally, scaling Bazz-B as if he is something like 2-3x stronger than Bambi's group is not at all supported by anything in the manga. He got fodderized by non-Almighty Haschwalth and in general only showed feats against Shitsugaya.
So Bazz-B doesn't have the power to put down Escanor in any of the rounds at all and Escanor may potentially be able to put him down in one hit in any round (considering that he effortlessly chopped a mountain level Galan in half).
Escanor 10/10
I don't know why you are saying "Day Escanor." Escanor's power jumps right to large mountain level (at least) at dawn and increases every instant until it reaches noon, which is the height of his power. Right now, we know at most about Late Morning Escanor's power, which is like 2-3 hours maximum after Dawn (so 8-9 AM). I don't know where these numbers for Escanor's heat are coming from, but they are from (at best) a half power Escanor.
Additionally, it says that Bazz-B is mountain level. Galan is mountain level, powered up to an unquantifiable degree and did (pic-related) damage
to Late Morning Escanor, who did not defend against the attack at all.
Additionally, scaling Bazz-B as if he is something like 2-3x stronger than Bambi's group is not at all supported by anything in the manga. He got fodderized by non-Almighty Haschwalth and in general only showed feats against Shitsugaya.
So Bazz-B doesn't have the power to put down Escanor in any of the rounds at all and Escanor may potentially be able to put him down in one hit in any round (considering that he effortlessly chopped a mountain level Galan in half).
Escanor 10/10
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http://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ook-so-youe28099re-ready-to-vaporize-a-human/
2.99 gigajoules to vaporize a regular human. which is converted 1.5+ million degree celsius
escanor vaporized someone with added heat resistance shiel which should withstand hells purgatory flame (unquantifiable) and has at least city level dura
right after morning
so his 1.5+million celsius heat radiation is the absolute low end
2.99 gigajoules to vaporize a regular human. which is converted 1.5+ million degree celsius
escanor vaporized someone with added heat resistance shiel which should withstand hells purgatory flame (unquantifiable) and has at least city level dura
right after morning
so his 1.5+million celsius heat radiation is the absolute low end
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not that it matters actually
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^doesnt this mean current escanor is around yamamotos shikai heat? (i would say it is a bit less because he fought a vampire who are actually most of the time weak against heat/flame/light), still, bass b easily stopped such flames,
i would assume this holds true for withstanding escanors currently shown strength too im sure in the near future he will be country-lvl but for now bass b should win (since he can fly he should be able to also dodge escanors currently shown effective range, which is around a few hundred meters at the beginning of the day)
i would assume this holds true for withstanding escanors currently shown strength too
im sure in the near future he will be country-lvl but for now bass b should win (since he can fly he should be able to also dodge escanors currently shown effective range, which is around a few hundred meters at the beginning of the day) 
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Yamamoto's bankai is 15 million degrees of Celcious ,there is no value of temperature for his shikai
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GreatestSin said:^doesnt this mean current escanor is around yamamotos shikai heat? (i would say it is a bit less because he fought a vampire who are actually most of the time weak against heat/flame/light), still, bass b easily stopped such flames,
i would assume this holds true for withstanding escanors currently shown strength too
Bazz dealing with Yamamoto's flame was completely offscreen and how he did it (easily or with effort) nothing is known.Via shown feats he is mountain level while escanor is island level.Escanor is also faster.
Escanor takes this.
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oh, than escanor will take R1, or it stays as draw sine bazz keeps his distance in the air but wont be able to hurt escanor and vice versa...Kkapoios said:
^but it doesnt matter if with effort or not, he was able to do it, but in firepower i always gave escanor the edge, also durability but with speed it is a questionable thing, it is only based on powerscaling with no hint whatsoever that escanor is actually able to be that fast :I still 95/100 for escanor sicne his 9AM heat is the same as yamamotos bankai ^_^
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^^As I said it happened off screen It could have taken him prep or long time or Kubo knows what method he used.You don't know if he can deal with that kind of heat in the middle of a battle.
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"I still 95/100 for escanor sicne his 9AM heat is the same as yamamotos bankai ^_^"
15,000,000 for Yama's Bankai
1,500,000 is Escanor.
15,000,000 for Yama's Bankai
1,500,000 is Escanor.
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15,000,000 for Yama's BankaiQuincy Emperor said:
1,500,000 is Escanor.
1.574.429,549853788 to be exact
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than i change it to 60/100, well, we still dont know escanors full strength so this will likely simply change with the ending of this arc ^_^Quincy Emperor said:
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