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- Fight start at 10 meters away from each other
- Random encounter
- Location : Morioh
- Ben from Omniverse
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I did1st, link the profiles
Because?2nd, this is a stomp
rohan is ftl, and ben is 7-A.Because?
well, he doesn't. that's the neat thingAnyway, how good does Ben resist mind manip?
Well actually the Omnitrix does give resistance to mind hax (see the Omnitrix page) but to which extent? I don't rememberwell, he doesn't. that's the neat thing
Prevented Zs'Skayr's possession.Well actually the Omnitrix does give resistance to mind hax (see the Omnitrix page) but to which extent? I don't remember
Rohan's power isn't based on mind manipulation, its just one of the many applications of Heaven's Door. Ben doesn't resist any of its other functions and none of his aliens can either, so its a pretty easy win for Rohan here.Well actually the Omnitrix does give resistance to mind hax (see the Omnitrix page) but to which extent? I don't remember
Rohan seeing four arms: "OH **** AN ALIEN THIS IS SO COOL IM GONNA WRITE 3 CHAPTERS RIGHT NOW"ben would probably use aliens like four arms or spider monkey, since ben wont go that serious against a random japanese mangaka, tough i still want to read more of what ben could do against heavens door
legitRohan seeing four arms: "OH **** AN ALIEN THIS IS SO COOL IM GONNA WRITE 3 CHAPTERS RIGHT NOW"
what alien is that, i forgotI still think Rath would solo btw.
Let me tell ya somethinwhat alien is that, i forgot
How?I still think Rath would solo btw.
same way josuke could kinda ignore heavens door effect probableHow?
If Rohan sees a physical fighter rushing him, he would likely aim to incapacitate them with HD, the same way he turned Okuyasu's entire body into a book which stopped him from moving. We have no idea how Josuke's rage state interacts with this application of HD, as well as the fact that this usage of HD was triggered by looking at Rohan's drawing rather than Rohan directly targeting him as he starts doing more commonly later in the series.same way josuke could kinda ignore heavens door effect probable
It wasn't a argument, I was tring to guess how Rath would be teorically able to beat rohan. any way, heavens door "pages" worked only in the ones that could apreciate the art Rohan draw, basically entering their hearts and turning them into open book, Josuke could ignore It by beingh so pissed he could even see Rohan drawing or apreciate them. It was something like that Rohan explained whem talking how heavens door worked, We probable can guess that would be the same thing with his summoned heavens door, just without the need of making the person look. as long as they would teorically be able to apreciate the art they would be affected...If Rohan sees a physical fighter rushing him, he would likely aim to incapacitate them with HD, the same way he turned Okuyasu's entire body into a book which stopped him from moving. We have no idea how Josuke's rage state interacts with this application of HD, as well as the fact that this usage of HD was triggered by looking at Rohan's drawing rather than Rohan directly targeting him as he starts doing more commonly later in the series.
Yeah, a few too many theoreticals here to be able to make a definitive call on it, and it hardly matters to the fight at hand anyway.It wasn't a argument, I was tring to guess how Rath would be teorically able to beat rohan. any way, heavens door "pages" worked only in the ones that could apreciate the art Rohan draw, basically entering their hearts and turning them into open book, Josuke could ignore It by beingh so pissed he could even see Rohan drawing or apreciate them. It was something like that Rohan explained whem talking how heavens door worked, We probable can guess that would be the same thing with his summoned heavens door, just without the need of making the person look. as long as they would teorically be able to apreciate the art they would be affected...
Well, I may be talking something that don't make sense here, take It with some grains of salt
Wouldn't Omnitrix Self Defense activate turn him into best possible alien for the combat.
Is that Transmution or posession ? Omnitrix page says it has resistance to transmutationnot fast enough, and he would still be "booked" not to mention rohan would have alread writen whatever he needed on ben
Wouldn't Omnitrix Self Defense activate turn him into best possible alien for the combat.
It's information manipulation, and stand nature kinda say funk you to this resistence sinse would need to also be layerd like every thing against stands need to beIs that Transmution or posession ? Omnitrix page says it has resistance to transmutation
Wouldn't this be more about SPEED then ?wait a second, ben hand has surface scaling lol
It's information manipulation, and stand nature kinda say funk you to this resistence sinse would need to also be layerd like every thing against stands need to be
the "booking" is instant with a touch from the stand that the ominitrix can't even percive thanks to stand nature, so the ominitrix would only be able to transform ben after he is alread been opened like a bookWouldn't this be more about SPEED then ?
Omnitrix speed is MFTL+ to Infinite if the speed can't even turn him into an alien then there is no debate it's a stomp.
This weaknesses only applies when Rohan shows a manga panel to someonesame way josuke could kinda ignore heavens door effect probable
but yee, I don't think ben can do anything before rohan uses info manipulation on him thanks to the giant speed gap
What's outspeeding it?not fast enough
Rohan is FTL and has ben can't even percive heavens doorWhat's outspeeding it?
It was a guess of what the person meantThis weaknesses only applies when Rohan shows a manga panel to someone
Omnitrix has infinite speedRohan is FTL and has ben can't even percive heavens door
still need to percive the atack to act first, and he can't percive heavens door to do that. not to mention he isn't in any mortal or extreme danger whem "booked" so there is a chance the safe file will not even activateOmnitrix has infinite speed
That weakness has long since been grown past (Rohan's "A in Potential" being one of the few times that shit actually comes into play), he just uses his stand to do it manually now. He can even do it on non-cognizant animals or even inanimate objects like a piece of food.heavens door "pages" worked only in the ones that could apreciate the art Rohan draw, basically entering their hearts and turning them into open book, Josuke could ignore It by beingh so pissed he could even see Rohan drawing or apreciate them. It was something like that Rohan explained whem talking how heavens door worked, We probable can guess that would be the same thing with his summoned heavens door, just without the need of making the person look. as long as they would teorically be able to apreciate the art they would be affected...