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why would it be inorganic if its already inorganic. like we don't give spirits inorganic phys right
Are you sure? Zagred literally has no organic physiology at that time, No nothing. just a consciousness or soul
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why would it be inorganic if its already inorganic. like we don't give spirits inorganic phys right
Also why doesn’t lucifero scale to the limited conceptual manipulation he gave his power to Morris(Morris doesn’t have a profile anyway)Are you sure? Zagred literally has no organic physiology at that time, No nothing. just a consciousness or soul
So can the changes be applied?
Also why doesn’t lucifero scale to the limited conceptual manipulation he gave his power to Morris(Morris doesn’t have a profile anyway)
Yeah and we don't give souls inorganic phys, he's just incorporeal.Are you sure? Zagred literally has no organic physiology at that time, No nothing. just a consciousness or soul
Yeah and we don't give souls inorganic phys, he's just incorporeal.
Because there's spiritual organic manip, being a soul already allows you to bypass physical organic manip meaning we don't have to say it unless they outright resist it in their soul key.That's odd, why not both?
anyway I will send it out and see.
Because there's spiritual organic manip,
Well Lucifero has no feats as a soul, but Zagred's 6-C key is when he is a soul, so nothing needs to be done. I guess for Zagred we could say "Low 6-B, higher with Grimoire"
It's just weird to me not gonna lie. Also, the abilities are fine, it's mainly the higher and lower thing
Funnily enough, it feels like this is gonna mess with my own OCDSometimes I feel like I make ocd type changes
Yeah i agree with these additionsWelcome to the home of the devils and demons of Black Clover, How powerful are they? and how strong do you have to be to beat them?
The following should be added to the respective profiles. Please be respectful.
POWERS AND ABILITIES ADDITIONS .
Souls and Grimoires
Next,
Based on case with Zagred. A devil with a grimoire is stronger than the same devil without a grimoire. And a devil without a grimoire is stronger than the same devil without a body and a grimoire. This was the case throughout Zagred’s lifetime.
Anyone with a grimoire is able to cast complex powerful spells. Without a grimoire, the devil casts basic spells. Devils with a disembodied consciousness or soul can also cast basic spells however are weaker than themselves with a body. I know we sparingly use this rating but, Lets include the following rating to every High to Supreme devil profiles.
Should we add this logic to the devil physiology page or just Zagred
Without Grimoire
Agreed: CloverDragon (just Zagred)
Disagree: N/A
Devil Physiology: The Devil's Heart .
Also, the following should be added to their devil physiology page
Inorganic physiology as a disembodied consciousness (Type 1)
Telepathy (Devils are capable of communicating telepathically)
Self Sustenance: (Type 1; Devils can survive as a merely a heart)
DEVIL AND DEVIL HOST ADDITIONS AND/OR CORRECTIONS
The characters below either need the following additions, corrections, or both to their respective pages. So don’t dismiss it if it’s already on their page. It doesn’t hurt to add more justifications
Zenon:
Resistance to Deconstruction and Corrosion (Capable of fighting by Yuno's passive deconstruction as well as resisting the effects of Yuno's corrosion due to the bone's overwhelming hardness and regenerative speed)
Dante:
More Power Nullification (Presence of demon king can collapse portals ), Weapon Creation (Capable of morphing rocks into a sword), Size Manipulation (capable of growing a few meters)
Will be added to the power nullification already on his profile. Dante is using Lucifero's spells as the devil host.
ZAGRED:
Limited Age Manipulation (via Word Soul Magic; "Wither"),
Vanica:
Danmaku (via Blood Magic),
Nacht:
Flight (Levitation and True-Flight with Mana Zone), Clairvoyance in Felis Mode (With Heaven's Door: Second Sight, Nacht is capable of sensing mana and peering through shadows to watch events. Even across the continent to watch the black bulls from Spade Kingdom).
He can use Manazone in base
Naamah & Lilith:
Natural weaponry (via claws)
Megicula:
Pain Manipulation (any curse megicula inflicts causes intense pain)
As the Father of all curses, they gain the ability to cast any curse shown in Black Clover.
Status Effect Inducement (Curse power can cause the skin to keep bleeding out despite merely suffering a scratch), Time Manipulation (Charlotte's parents were trapped in a cage of time with a curse) Resistance Negation and Resistance to Absorption and Sealing (Can negate the effects of Charlotte's roses, which have anti curse properties), Sense Manipulation (Curse magic is capable of hindering the five senses), Absorption (Henry's curse absorbs magic power from anyone in range), Disease Manipulation (Curse magic can cause sicknesses), Limited transmutation (Charlotte's roses turned from red to blue as an effect of her curse), Fire Manipulation, Acid Manipulation and Plant Manipulation (Gordon's family is affiliated with Curse Magic and his family made a contract with Megicula), Oil Manipulation (Gordon's Father uses oil based curse magic), Information Analysis (Nathan is capable of reading Asta's temperature and serach for physical abnormalities in his body), Clairvoyance (Nathan is capable of using Cursed Candle Ritual Disk to know the locations of every cursed individual in Clover Kingdom. The accuracy is reduced when range is increased to cover other countries), Resistance to Healing (Curses prevent wounds from healing).
Lucifero:
Power Nullification (Presence of demon king nullify spells), Power Bestowal (via Devil contract, Devil hosts can use all the abilities of a devil and draw devil power from the devil),
Then all of Dante's Gravity Magic spells.
Vanessa:
Law Manipulation (Capable of Manipulating natural laws to change fate)
Morris (needs a profile)
Limited Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Capable of interfering with concepts)
Pages that I need to created. So I can get used to creating pages.
- Belzeebub
- Astaroth?
- Nero
- Lolopechka
- Damnatio
- Others...
Agreed: CloverDragon (N/A), Arkenis (inorganic physiology should be removed),
Disagree:
There are a lot of pages that need to be done in this verse. So I won't close this thread till all these pages are done.
Pretty much thisI think the stuff DemonGodMitch accepts is good.
You should AddMorris (needs a profile)
Limited Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2; Capable of interfering with concepts)