Epsilon_R
He/Him- 6,302
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It's about time we fix this damn profile (that shouldn't have been created at that time tbh)
Lily's AP justification is "Sliced Black Asta's chest", the thing is:
1. It wasn't Black Asta, it was PDU
2. Lucius did the slicing, not Lily
3. Lily never harmed Asta in anyway whatsoever, not even a mere scratch.
So her rating shouldn't scale to Asta in any way. However, we know that Beelzebub's soul was incarnated within her. We also know that the soul in Black Clover is the source of their Magic (Charlotte even states it's the quality of one's magic itself).
Therefore, I suggest we downgrade her AP to that of Beelzebub's.
Beelzebub doesn't have a profile, but due to being one of the 3 rulers of the last level of the Underworld (the lower the level, the stronger the Devil), he should be at least. comparable to a fully Manifested Megicula (who technically has the same rank as him), and more likely even stronger than her as she only got this spot due to Astaroth's departure.
Tl;dr: Her AP change is 3.564 Exatons 》1.782 Exatons
This change also affects Kezokaku who was supposed to scale to Lily but ended up scaling to 594.1 Petatons because of the scaling issues. Ichika may be affected as well but it's up for debate.
Same thing, she didn't blitz Asta, it was Lucius (And honestly I wouldn't call that specific instance a blitz as Asta was mentally shocked by the situation), she in fact cannot tag Asta with Spatial Magic and only the first of her flash spells actually got him, which can most likely be interpreted as Asta not expecting it rather than it being too fast.
I don't think her value should change but her justification definitely needs adjustments.
Make it Unknown, she has literally no reason to scale to Asta.
Again, Unknown. She doesn't even strike her opponent in the first place.
Should be comparable to her AP, not her SS.
AP
Lily's AP justification is "Sliced Black Asta's chest", the thing is:
1. It wasn't Black Asta, it was PDU
2. Lucius did the slicing, not Lily
3. Lily never harmed Asta in anyway whatsoever, not even a mere scratch.
So her rating shouldn't scale to Asta in any way. However, we know that Beelzebub's soul was incarnated within her. We also know that the soul in Black Clover is the source of their Magic (Charlotte even states it's the quality of one's magic itself).
Therefore, I suggest we downgrade her AP to that of Beelzebub's.
Beelzebub doesn't have a profile, but due to being one of the 3 rulers of the last level of the Underworld (the lower the level, the stronger the Devil), he should be at least. comparable to a fully Manifested Megicula (who technically has the same rank as him), and more likely even stronger than her as she only got this spot due to Astaroth's departure.
Tl;dr: Her AP change is 3.564 Exatons 》1.782 Exatons
This change also affects Kezokaku who was supposed to scale to Lily but ended up scaling to 594.1 Petatons because of the scaling issues. Ichika may be affected as well but it's up for debate.
Speed
Same thing, she didn't blitz Asta, it was Lucius (And honestly I wouldn't call that specific instance a blitz as Asta was mentally shocked by the situation), she in fact cannot tag Asta with Spatial Magic and only the first of her flash spells actually got him, which can most likely be interpreted as Asta not expecting it rather than it being too fast.
I don't think her value should change but her justification definitely needs adjustments.
Lifting Strength
Make it Unknown, she has literally no reason to scale to Asta.
Striking Strength
Again, Unknown. She doesn't even strike her opponent in the first place.
Durability
Should be comparable to her AP, not her SS.
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