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[Eseseso]

1. Shiryu should be flat-out High 6-A for being the 2nd in command, making him flat-out superior to Jesus Burgess (and maybe Kuzan as well but I'm not sure).

He's already a likely High 6-A since Blackbeard said he was dangerous, so we can just remove the 7-A low end.

2. Catarina Devon should have High 6-A durability via taking a portion of that shockwave from a pissed Sengoku. As should all the other BB commanders once they get profiles.

Simple as that.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Does anything indicate that rank correlates with strength in the Blackbeard Pirates? Seems weird to just assume Shiryu is superior.

 

[Eseseso]

Does anything indicate that rank correlates with strength in the Blackbeard Pirates? Seems weird to just assume Shiryu is superior.

I think it was said once, don't remember where.

I mean, he's already possibly High 6-A since BB called him dangerous, and his possibly High 6-A durability even mentions his current feat of taking a hit from BB.

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

I think it was said once, don't remember where.

Would be good to link the OP if you find it, since that's the evidence this really needs to be convincing IMO.

I mean, he's already possibly High 6-A since BB called him dangerous, and his possibly High 6-A durability even mentions his current feat of taking a hit from BB.

I don't disagree with him being High 6-A. All that stuff is fine. I just disagree with the notion that his rank should inherently scale him above the other crew members.

 

[Damage3245]

Shiryu doesn't have anything concretely putting him above Burgess.

Also nice OP with zero scans.

 

[Khanhba01]

Upcoming maybe only Luffy, Kaido and Shiki will be able to keep this High 6-A rating

 

[Eseseso]

Shiryu doesn't have anything concretely putting him above Burgess.

Even so, BB called him dangerous and he also took that shockwave from Sengoku, so he should just have the 7-A low-end in his profile removed.

Also nice OP with zero scans.

sigh I'll try finding some.

 

[Fireld]

Here's one

 

[Eseseso]

Here's one

Common Fireld W

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

Please no, no more scaling based on "he is dangerous" or "he is strong", being dangerous could be anything from killing low level marines to kill all the admirals there and leave with a smile.

 

[SlendVeny]

Pretty sure the image of all the #2's was the 2nd strongest.

 

[LordTracer]

Also nice OP with zero scans.

No references either.

 

[Eseseso]

Added some links that contain scans.

Kudos once again to @Fireld for the Shiryu link.

 

[Damage3245]

That statement from Blackbeard is why Shiryu is considered to have a "Likely High 6-A" rating. I don't think it's enough for a solid rating.

 

[Eseseso]

That statement from Blackbeard is why Shiryu is considered to have a "Likely High 6-A" rating. I don't think it's enough for a solid rating.

He should be superior to Jesus, since BB went out of his way to call Shiryu dangerous.

And Devon's durability should be high 6-A regardless cuz of that Sengoku attack.

 

[Damage3245]

He should be superior to Jesus, since BB went out of his way to call Shiryu dangerous.

And Devon's durability should be high 6-A regardless cuz of that Sengoku attack.

That's enough for a "likely" for Shiryu in my books.

 

[Fireld]

1. Shiryu should be flat-out High 6-A for being the 2nd in command

Found the SBS

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

1. Shiryu should be flat-out High 6-A for being the 2nd in command, making him flat-out superior to Jesus Burgess (and maybe Kuzan as well but I'm not sure).

Agree, it's confirmed via this as well

Which are for the second strongest in the crew

SBS Volume 102

This is the collection of SBS sections from Volume 102. D (Dokusha means Reader) O (Oda) D: Enough already! Everyone! Let's let Odacchi say "Start the SBS" every once in a while! Go on, Odacchi! (0.1 seconds later) Alright, now THE SBS HAS STARTED!! P.N. Yato Sumitaro O: S...!! IT ALREADY...

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D: Hello, Odacchi! Looking at the cover page of Chapter 1031, it seems like Bepo is the No. 2 of the Heart Pirates, right!? I was surprised because I thought that Penguin, Shachi, and Bepo were all tied for No. 2! Are you saying that Bepo (with Sulong?) is the strongest between them? P.N. Pudding-ya

O: That cover, huh? Similar to Zoro, not all of those characters have the title of first mate. I selected the No. 2s as I saw fit. Usually, Shachi and Penguin are more dependable, but those two—who have seen Bepo's Sulong form—are no match for Bepo in terms of fighting power...! I acknowledge him.

Ohh fireld already posted about it

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Please no, no more scaling based on "he is dangerous" or "he is strong", being dangerous could be anything from killing low level marines to kill all the admirals there and leave with a smile.

This makes no sense whatsoever.
Why would Blackbeard give a shit if he killed low level marines? He literally just demolished the entire prison guard system bar Magellan and Hanyabal or what ever his name is.
He clearly just thought Shiryu was dangerous. Very simple. Don't know why you're doing mental gymnastics like this.

 

[Suigetsuhyugs]

This makes no sense whatsoever.
Why would Blackbeard give a shit if he killed low level marines? He literally just demolished the entire prison guard system bar Magellan and Hanyabal or what ever his name is.
He clearly just thought Shiryu was dangerous. Very simple. Don't know why you're doing mental gymnastics like this.

Its not "mental gymnastics" its about accuracy and actual power, being dangerous doesnt even mean that character is strong, he could just have the exact power that can defeat him and still lose to much weaker characters, or even if he is strong he could be just strong enough to kill all the low level marines which would help others to actually fight the strong people that is still dangerous.

Shanks thought Luffy was strong when he was much younger that doesnt mean he was younkou level and the Marines think Buggy is dangerous but that doesnt mean he is an actual threat in power himself.

So i dont like that scaling of "he is strong" "he is powerful" "he is dangerous" terrible scaling terrible accuracy too vague.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

When did Shanks say Luffy is strong?

 

[Eminiteable]

Found the SBS

Agree, it's confirmed via this as well

Which are for the second strongest in the crew

SBS Volume 102

This is the collection of SBS sections from Volume 102. D (Dokusha means Reader) O (Oda) D: Enough already! Everyone! Let's let Odacchi say "Start the SBS" every once in a while! Go on, Odacchi! (0.1 seconds later) Alright, now THE SBS HAS STARTED!! P.N. Yato Sumitaro O: S...!! IT ALREADY...

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Ohh fireld already posted about it

I agree, seems pretty straight forward with Shiryu flat out scaling above Jesus Burgess for being stated the No.2 in terms of fighting power.

 

[Eseseso]

I agree, seems pretty straight forward with Shiryu flat out scaling above Jesus Burgess for being stated the No.2 in terms of fighting power.

He doesn't scale above Aokiji tho, right?

I would've agreed with him scaling above Aokiji, but then he went and stomped 5 of BB's commanders.

 

[Eminiteable]

He doesn't scale above Aokiji tho, right?

I would've agreed with him scaling above Aokiji, but then he went and stomped 5 of BB's commanders.

He should but people view it as controversial so we'll leave it for now until the BB vs SH confrontation has started and concluded.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

He doesn't scale above Aokiji tho, right?

I would've agreed with him scaling above Aokiji, but then he went and stomped 5 of BB's commanders.

Hancock stomped 2 of his commanders is she above Kuzan?
(I mean, maybe she is above him, but not exactly due to her physical strength)

 

[Darkvie123]

Only Disagree with Shiryu being above Kuzan. If you mean to put him above Kuzan because of that cover its not a good reasoning to put someone whos featless who couldnt even take down Moria with 1 attack to the guy who fought Sakazuki for 10 days and iirc Kuzan already freezed the whole BB Crew when BB met him

 

[SlendVeny]

Only Disagree with Shiryu being above Kuzan. If you mean to put him above Kuzan because of that cover its not a good reasoning to put someone whos featless who couldnt even take down Moria with 1 attack to the guy who fought Sakazuki for 10 days and iirc Kuzan already freezed the whole BB Crew when BB met him

That's a hax feat though

 

[Darkvie123]

That's a hax feat though

Fighting Sakazuki for 10 Days isnt so i def disagree with Shiryu being above Kuzan

 

[SlendVeny]

Fighting Sakazuki for 10 Days isnt so i def disagree with Shiryu being above Kuzan

Being #2 is a power feat though.

 

[Darkvie123]

Being #2 is a power feat though.

Kuzan announcement of being in BB Pirates was after the cover was released so

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Kuzan announcement of being in BB Pirates was after the cover was released so

I ******* love hearing this argument because we learn about it in like, Punk Hazard, but people still say this.

 

[Darkvie123]

Wdym?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I ******* love hearing this argument because we learn about it in like, Punk Hazard, but people still say this.

We learn his in an alliance, not in his crew if I remember correctly

 

[SlendVeny]

We learn his in an alliance, not in his crew if I remember correctly

Yeah, but doesn't that imply Oda already knew he was going to put him in the crew?

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yeah, but doesn't that imply Oda already knew he was going to put him in the crew?

Hmm? Don't think that matters... Oda portrays stuff to the viewers he doesn't just say it because of himself

As in he will say with what's goes along in the story, he's not just going to spoil anything kinda

 

[SlendVeny]

Hmm? Don't think that matters... Oda portrays stuff to the viewers he doesn't just say it because of himself

As in he will say with what's goes along in the story, he's not just going to spoil anything kinda

Yeah, but he said "this guy is the second strongest in the crew, right now, no exceptions"

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yeah, but he said "this guy is the second strongest in the crew, right now, no exceptions"

And aokiji wasn't confirmed to be in the crew at that time...

 

[Eseseso]

Either way, the 7-A low-end for Shiryu needs to be removed IMO, and Devon should have High 6-A durability.

 

[SlendVeny]

And aokiji wasn't confirmed to be in the crew at that time...

But he was in the crew at the time. Why would Oda say that if he was just going to contradict it?

 

[SlendVeny]

Shiryu needs a buff so we can wank Bogard when they fight.