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Calculations: Wood Vaporization Values

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So, I went out of my way to calculate the vaporization value of wood and it had been okay'd, but I'd might as well CRT it just to make sure.: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Flashlight237/Vaporizing_Wood

Based on the calculations made, the vaporization of wood (or at the very least Douglas fir, but a lot of studies generalize wood anyway) appears to range from 9167 to 10127.1 joules per cubic centimeter. A smidge low, but the math ain't wrong. I did that because... Heck with it, it'll be needed for wood vaporization feats. So yeah, there ya have it.
 
Seems fairly fine. And I know some calcs might need slight adjustments.
 
DarkDragonMedeus said:
Seems fairly fine. And I know some calcs might need slight adjustments.
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Yeah, that's true. It's not every day someone decides to calc missing values. I did some on Carbon (graphite and carbon fibers) of all things, though calcium is largely a mess. I've a feeling I'll have to use rules of thumb for that one.
 
This is pretty good, a much easier way to calculate vaporization wood.
 
Well, for a start burning vs. vaporization should be addressed upon usage.
The reason we don't consider combustion with humans is that they wouldn't burn if you incinerate them quickly. Too much water. In cremation, some stuff might burn, but that is after the flames dried things to a certain extent, which takes time. Really, the temperatures we use are probably more of a low-end...

Anyway, dry wood burns easier, so exothermal chemical reactions should be considered.

So, before using those vaporization values it is a good idea to put some thought into it.

Anyway, safety disclaimer aside, let's get to the calc:
And before you ask, no, there is no latent heat of fusion for wood. I checked.: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10973-022-11285-9
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Can you point out the part where it says there is no latent heat of fusion?

Wood (15°C): 1.05+(1.8*10^-4*15)
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Where does that formula come from? It doesn't seem to match the ones on page 213 from this.

Now, according to this, vapors are released by wood at 1100°C: https://www.dnr.louisiana.gov/assets/tad/education/ecep/sources/d/d.htm
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That's °F in the source, not °C.
This and this might be of interest.
 
DontTalkDT said:
Well, for a start burning vs. vaporization should be addressed upon usage.
The reason we don't consider combustion with humans is that they wouldn't burn if you incinerate them quickly. Too much water. In cremation, some stuff might burn, but that is after the flames dried things to a certain extent, which takes time. Really, the temperatures we use are probably more of a low-end...
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Sure, but you gotta keep in mind the end results of both cremation and wood burning are the same: ash.
DontTalkDT said:
Can you point out the part where it says there is no latent heat of fusion?
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Right after Figure 10 in the article linked.
DontTalkDT said:
Where does that formula come from? It doesn't seem to match the ones on page 213 from this.
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Same page, under "Volatile Pyrolysis Products", the section which directly correlates to the final paragraph of Page 212 where the 20 MJ/kg figure came from.
DontTalkDT said:
That's °F in the source, not °C.
This and this might be of interest.
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... -snap!- Shit!
 
Flashlight237 said:
Sure, but you gotta keep in mind the end results of both cremation and wood burning are the same: ash.

Right after Figure 10 in the article linked.

Same page, under "Volatile Pyrolysis Products", the section which directly correlates to the final paragraph of Page 212 where the 20 MJ/kg figure came from.

... -snap!- Shit!
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@DontTalkDT care to comment so this thread can be concluded
 
Well, I cannot force him to be interested. My apologies. 🙏
 
Antvasima said:
Well, I cannot force him to be interested. My apologies. 🙏
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Very well. I think we can move on then.

Really, the only thing that should be added outside the values themselves would be this tiny note: "Be mindful that there's a difference between kindling and vaporization and one should keep an eye out accordingly."

Could be worded differently, but bleh.
 
Dalesean027 said:
Welp then the thread should be concluded without him even if he hasn't responded back Flashlight did address all DTs points and about 4 CGMs have accepted this to be fine so can it be applied
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Yes. It seems fine to apply then. 🙏
 
erm I can apply this btw if the page is opened, and also should this be in the tables of destruction values or the specific heat values
@Flashlight237
 
TWILIGHT-OP said:
I've opened the page, i got caught dengue, so I can't be active much rn. Ask someone else to close the page when needed.
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Shit. Get well soon, dengue is f-u-c-k-i-n-g nuts. Speaking from personal experience as a survivor.
 
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