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^ As the title
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Well, I don't understand much about Transduality, so let's try all 3 types.Which type of transduality are we talking about?
Lower dimensional existence definitely yes. Yogiri just need to destroy the plane of existence.^ As the title
Pretty sure TD 2 and NEP2 aren't dependent on dimensionality like other hax since they wouldn't inhabit a plane of existence due to nonexistent nature..Lower dimensional existence definitely yes. Yogiri just need to destroy the plane of existence.
Even TD3 is dependent on plane of existence. Only NEP type 2 is independent. But it also depends on feats. You can check the explanation page. You won't be surviving a dimensionality collapse without feats.Pretty sure TD 2 and NEP2 aren't dependent on dimensionality like other hax since they wouldn't inhabit a plane of existence due to nonexistent nature..
They are.Pretty sure TD 2 and NEP2 aren't dependent on dimensionality like other hax since they wouldn't inhabit a plane of existence due to nonexistent nature..
Can I have the link to the explanation page? Thanks.Even TD3 is dependent on plane of existence. Only NEP type 2 is independent. But it also depends on feats. You can check the explanation page. You won't be surviving a dimensionality collapse without feats.
Is this an example of surviving a cosmological collapse? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/T...stroyed in the Manifoldverse’s total collapseEven TD3 is dependent on plane of existence. Only NEP type 2 is independent. But it also depends on feats. You can check the explanation page. You won't be surviving a dimensionality collapse without feats.
Yeah.Is this an example of surviving a cosmological collapse? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Downstreamers#The_Old_Ones:~:text=, Regeneration (High-Godly; Can even ‘regenerate’ into a more effective and powerful form after their neutrino/quantum consciousness/informational form was destroyed in the Manifoldverse’s total collapse
No problemCan I have the link to the explanation page? Thanks.
Note: The aspects in which a character is not nonexistent in the common sense are what makes them into a 'living' character. As such, if a character with this power is reduced to a state in which they can't display any properties of something that exists (e.g. becomes unable to take any actions), they are effectively dead/erased. A consequence of that is that feats or special reasoning are required for a character with this ability to survive the complete erasure of their plane of existence, as one needs to confirm that they are able to still display some existent properties on a different plane of existence.
No, the existence is dependent but the nonexistence not, unless the verse show otherwiseThanks for sharing your opinion fixxed, but in this wiki they are dependent.
Where in the page say NEP 2 dependent?? I just see character lose because they cannot display some properties of existence that make them unable to take action then effectively "dead"
Note: The aspects in which a character is not nonexistent in the common sense are what makes them into a 'living' character. As such, if a character with this power is reduced to a state in which they can't display any properties of something that exists (e.g. becomes unable to take any actions), they are effectively dead/erased. A consequence of that is that feats or special reasoning are required for a character with this ability to survive the complete erasure of their plane of existence, as one needs to confirm that they are able to still display some existent properties on a different plane of existence.
Unlike most other people on this site, Yogiri supporters are not interested in Vs match.This is the one he has to effect btw.
You can negate*All haxes As long as it is not smurf, you can negation it with a higher-dimensional AP, higher-dimensional existence, or another higher-dimensional hax.
Some people think NEP 2 is what it used to be, but now all hax including NEP 2 can be negate with higher dimensional AP, hax or existenceYou can negate*
But ya, you got the point here.
+1The note is clear, people need to read it properly.
What about unequal dimensionality?Let's say the dimensionality is equal.
Short answer:
No
Long answer:
In this wiki, Yogiri cannot affect NEP 2 or TD 2 and TD 3. TD 1 is specific so depending on what they are being "Transdual to" Yogiri could or might couldn't affect them. But outside of this wiki, in another wiki standard where the standard of TD and NEP is different, pretty sure he could.
Dread and Elde already explained the alternative ways Yogiri could kill them without directly affecting them.
If unequal intent is higher dimensionality, it can easily affect NEP2 or TD3.What about unequal dimensionality?
If it's a lower dimensional NEP2 yes he can negateAlright. Fair enough. Cuz I saw someone say in this thread a long time ago that Yogiri can't affect Type 2 NEP, so just want to make sure.
Well as I said if that character can exists even after you destroyed/erased his plane of existence then yes Yogiri can't affect him. Otherwise Yogiri negs.Alright. Fair enough. Cuz I saw someone say in this thread a long time ago that Yogiri can't affect Type 2 NEP, so just want to make sure.
Yes of course needs to display some existence properties. But there are no in that quote say nonexistence is dependent on plane of existenceA consequence of that is that feats or special reasoning are required for a character with this ability to survive the complete erasure of their plane of existence, as one needs to confirm that they are able to still display some existent properties on a different plane of existence.
Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification.Well as I said if that character can exists even after you destroyed/erased his plane of existence then yes Yogiri can't affect him. Otherwise Yogiri negs.
Well, to sum up everything I've seen so far on this thread, a higher-dimensional being can kill a lower-dimensional being with Type 2 NEP or Transduality, as long as the lower-dimensional being has no feats of existing even after you destroyed/erased his plane of existence.Wait so
a higher dimensional being cant affect a lower D being if they have NEP type 2 or transduality
or is it the opposite
They can't interact directly with NEP or Transdual, however they can indirectly killing NEP and Transdual by destroy/erase the plane of existence that NEP and Transdual reside, unless said NEP and Transdual have feats still existing after the destruction of their cosmology/plane of existenceWait so
a higher dimensional being cant affect a lower D being if they have NEP type 2 or transduality
or is it the opposite