Carnosaur (Warhammer Fantasy) vs Odogaron (Monster Hunter)

[Naito-desu]

• Both are High 8-C
• Speeds are equalized
• Battle takes place in the Wildspire Wastes

Carnosaur:

Odogaron:

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

What's the AP Difference?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Carnosaur: 7.82567595214 tons

Odogaron: 2.14 tons

3.65685792156x AP difference plus Carnosaur has damage reduction to counteract the stat amps odogaron has and I'm pretty sure Carnosaur takes this

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Carnosaur: 7.82567595214 tons

Odogaron: 2.14 tons

3.65685792156x AP difference plus Carnosaur has damage reduction to counteract the stat amps odogaron has and I'm pretty sure Carnosaur takes this

Tbf, Odogaron Canonically stomps monsters that scale to Barroth like Paulumu and Radoban.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

I mean either way, Carnosaur has 3.5x AP, can pretty much resist the damage that Odogaron can do, and it has its own stat amps to make him even stronger once he gets the first hit in. Plus it has fear manip to use to affect Odogaron

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I mean either way, Carnosaur has 3.5x AP, can pretty much resist the damage that Odogaron can do, and it has its own stat amps to make him even stronger once he gets the first hit in. Plus it has fear manip to use to affect Odogaron

That's fair. What's the difference between their LS? I know they're both Class 100, but what's the difference? Odogaron likes to grapple it's prey.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

I have no idea. We don't have a Malekith profile to my knowledge

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I have no idea. We don't have a Malekith profile to my knowledge

Well then, that makes this a helluva lot more confusing.

 

[Naito-desu]

Lifting Strength scales to Malekith, who lifted a dragon the size of a gatehouse. With no real accepted calc, baseline is assumed.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Lifting Strength scales to Malekith, who lifted a dragon the size of a gatehouse. With no real accepted calc, baseline is assumed.

If it's baseline then Odogaron Ragdolls since he has Ragdolled Class 100s before.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

I mean, the guy still has far weaker AP so he won't be doing as much damage to him and given the Carnosaur's size, he'd still be able to hit Odogaron off or at least hit him in general.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I mean, the guy still has far weaker AP so he won't be doing as much damage to him and given the Carnosaur's size, he'd still be able to hit Odogaron off or at least hit him in general.

When Radoban tried to use his sheer size against Odogaron, Odogaron just jumped on his back and shredded through his armor. Can the Carnosaur reach it's back easily?

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

To my knowledge no. Is it one of those attacks where he does it for a bit then gets off and fights normally or does he literally just stay on its back

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

To my knowledge no. Is it one of those attacks where he does it for a bit then gets off and fights normally or does he literally just stay on its back

He stayed on there until he knocked over Radoban and broke his armor.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Well then that does give him an advantage. How often does he do that or was it like a one time thing?

 

[Naito-desu]

No but Carnosaur also has its own rage buffs and has high pain tolerance to shake him off, especially after it's tasted blood. Also Carnosaur has a 3x Damage Boost against large targets.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well then that does give him an advantage. How often does he do that or was it like a one time thing?

Odogaron's do that every single time they fight a Radoban or an Uragaan. (So basically anything noticeably bigger than itself that isn't a Deviljho.)

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

By large targets does it mean like just large in general or larger than itself cuz if its larger in general that gives the carnosaur oneshot potential

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

No but Carnosaur also has its own rage buffs and has high pain tolerance to shake him off, especially after it's tasted blood. Also Carnosaur has a 3x Damage Boost against large targets.

When you say "Large Targets", how large are we talking about?

 

[Naito-desu]

In the tabletop, "Large Target" is often used to describe particularly large creature. Having read the rulebook, Odogaron definitely is large enough to qualify given that there are similarly-sized creatures with the trait of Large Target

 

[Naito-desu]

By large targets does it mean like just large in general or larger than itself cuz if its larger in general that gives the carnosaur oneshot potential

Definitely not just larger than it, cause some of the "Large Targets" on tabletop are smaller than the Carnosaur

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

In the tabletop, "Large Target" is often used to describe particularly large creature. Having read the rulebook, Odogaron definitely is large enough to qualify given that there are similarly-sized creatures with the trait of Large Target

Well that's ******* gay. Then Odogaron gets One-Shot and can't do anything unless he decides to Pin the Carnosaur for 24 Hours.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Yeah Carnosaur pretty much takes this

 

[Naito-desu]

So stomp or...?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So stomp or...?

It's either Odogaron gets One-Shot or Odogaron sits on him all day scratching him and doing no damage but Pinning him. It's just a huge mismatch based on their stats and tactics.

 

[AbaddonTheDisappointment]

Odogaron has one wincon and its just sitting on him and hoping him scratching him for a couple of minutes-hours is actually gonna work

 

[SomaKing13]

Yeah, Large Targets in warhammer fantasy basically start at cavalry and ogres, so Odogaron easily qualifies, unfortunately Carnosaurs are basically an anti-monster monster, though Odogaron definitely does have a wincon if it can avoid getting munched or tail whipped