Chainsaw Man Revision

[Sir_Ovens]

We have multiple calcs for Chainsaw Man feats but they are either stuck in evaluation hell or aren't being calculated.

So I will revise the powers and abilities.

Here is a page on Devil Physiology that should be applied to Denji, Power, and Makima's page.

Makima P&A revision.

That is all I have for now. But I am encouraging a discussion on calculating feats so we may actually get to that sooner.​

 

[Confluctor]

I feel like either her mind manip resistance should be full blown instead of limited or shouldn't be there at all. I mean she is remembering stuff that had been erased on every single level.

 

[Tllmbrg]

I have no read the CRT but I disagree
Somehow

 

[Zencha9]

know abot most of this and i agree

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

My only problem is the lack of scans

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Lack of scans mostly due to the fact that her powers come from other characters and they will get the scans.

But I can add reference links to the chapters where she demonstrates her given abilities.

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

One thing that should probably be mentioned is that Makima's Resurrection should be listed as Damage Transferal too, since it, well, does that. It doesn't just resurrect her, but also moves the death to a random Japanese person.

 

[Arkenis]

One thing that should probably be mentioned is that Makima's Resurrection should be listed as Damage Transferal too, since it, well, does that. It doesn't just resurrect her, but also moves the death to a random Japanese person.

Shouldn’t that be Death manip then? Or am I misunderstanding

 

[Confluctor]

I feel like either her mind manip resistance should be full blown instead of limited or shouldn't be there at all. I mean she is remembering stuff that had been erased on every single level.

About this...

What are the standards for remembering someone or something which has been conceptually erased from existence?

 

[Arkenis]

About this...

What are the standards for remembering someone or something which has been conceptually erased from existence?

Is that not a resistance to acausality type 2 Or 1? I forgot

 

[Confluctor]

Not sure tbh

 

[Cyberblader90]

why does makima have the mold devil

 

[Cyberblader90]

bump

 

[Tago238]

why does makima have the mold devil

We list her as having powers granted by her subordinates’ contracts.

Is that not a resistance to acausality type 2 Or 1? I forgot

Type 1. Although I disagree with type 1 Acausality, I’m tired rn tho so I’ll only type out my reasoning if this CRT stops being dead.

Shouldn’t that be Death manip then? Or am I misunderstanding

No it’s damage transferal. The damage she receives is transferred to someone else and she regenerates as a result.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Give me some time, I will add the reference links to Makima's page when I finish my other CRTs.

 

[Antvasima]

This seems fine to me.

If you link to all of the CM calculations that need to be evaluated here, I can ask some calc group members to take a look at them.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Ok I have added the reference links to the sandbox. If everyone can look over and see if everything is ok, I can apply the changes.

 

[Therefir]

The Bat Devil feat should be classified as High 8-C+, we use 80% of hollowness for buildings and there's practically no fragments in the crater, I will leave a comment in the blog.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

So is the Makima rework ok to post?

 

[Therefir]

Her tier needs to be adjusted, since the Bat Devil is now High 8-C+ and I'm pretty sure she scales far above that.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

She honestly doesn't since she was memed on by Chainsaw Devil and he was much weaker then than in his prime, who was feared even by Devils of primordial fears like Darkness Devil.

Also she is physically on the same level as Denji as the Chainsaw Hybrid. She's only comparable to Chainsaw Man with telekinetic blasts.

 

[The_Divine_Phoenix]

Still High 8-C+ then, if the calc end is to be changed.

You could maybe argue some people to upscale to a higher tier given Bat Devil isn't exactly the most high end of things but eh.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

I guess then yeah, Makima being 8-B should be fine?

Is that ok with everyone?

 

[Therefir]

I think that should be fine, yeah.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Makima's page has been updated

 

[Therefir]

Looks good, but it would be better if the calc that gave her this new rating would be listed in her profile as well, like "Physically beat up Denji in his Hybrid form, who in a weaker state survived the destruction of a building."

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

bump

 

[Arkenis]

Plz tell me there is a calc for these characters being faster than subsonic.
If not, someone needs to try to calc Denji moving in front of Akis bullet in their fight

 

[Antvasima]

Can somebody summarise what has been accepted here and what still needs to be decided please?

 

[Therefir]

I think we just need to apply the changes to the profiles, Makima is already 8-B.

 

[Rez]

Plz tell me there is a calc for these characters being faster than subsonic.
If not, someone needs to try to calc Denji moving in front of Akis bullet in their fight

Well their is this.

 

[Arkenis]

what is this ability being called?

 

[Zencha9]

what is this ability being called?

enhanced senses

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Welp, Makima vs Shang Tsung here we go

 

[Therefir]

I noticed that Quanxy actually has a Hypersonic accepted calc, why nobody scales from that?

 

[Arkenis]

Denji should have limited Duplication btw.

 

[Arkenis]

I noticed that Quanxy actually has a Hypersonic accepted calc, why nobody scales from that?

Yea, Makima also has only subsonic on her page yet several pages mention scaling speed to her.

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

Pochita/Devil Denji should scale to that as well right?

 

[Antvasima]

I think we just need to apply the changes to the profiles, Makima is already 8-B.

I noticed that Quanxy actually has a Hypersonic accepted calc, why nobody scales from that?

Okay. That is probably fine to apply then.

 

[Tago238]

I noticed that Quanxy actually has a Hypersonic accepted calc, why nobody scales from that?

The used time frame is based on the frame rate of the eye, which isn’t allowed anymore.

Hypersonic is generally consistent across the series though, outside of the bullet timing calc restrained Violence is able to run faster than an explosion and Reze scales to him.