Chaotic Honkai Verse Upgrade (1-A & L1-A)

[Weaver261]

Honkai verse has been taking L so much recently and as a supporter of the verse, it pains me to see people who didn't even play the games are shepherding the downgrades. As a humble lore and cosmology enjoyer of Honkai verse, allow me to put the cosmology in its right place. (Actually I am just bored :3)

1-A Yog Sothoth
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This one should be pretty simple and explicit. Yog Sothoth is said to transcend the boundaries of space and time. Simply transcending space and time is just Low 1-C. But since the very definition of space and time is born from her, this should be qualitative superiority.

Language frames the world, words make the rules, and so space and time are framed beyond this.

This is the divine power of God, "description", or "definition". The only way to define the boundaries is to transcend them

Her whole power is about R>F. As stated here, worlds and universes are born inside the language and words.

This is how divine power works. Humans get old, their hair grays, but how about the world within words? This is the divine power of God, "description", or "definition".

Many people through the ages have expressed their ideas through words, seeing them as tools, but they had not imagined that the real world is born from words, so just one word may contribute to the rise of a universe from the concept of chaos, and then fixate it, so it never perishes again.

Thus, Yog Sothoth's divine power can create worlds inside words which is R>F. Entire scan can be read here

Now we know that Yog Sothoth is unconstrained by time and space, transcend the space and time as definitions, it's pretty obvious for 1-A rating.

Okay this is just a pretext for the upgrade of the whole verse into L1-A. To upgrade the whole verse into L1-A, we need to talk about Chaos as the title suggested. What's Chaos? Did we ever talk about that in honkai threads? No! But I will now.

Chaos in Honkai
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Chaos is the initial state of all things, it's nothingness as stated in the Chaos' godhead profile.

As a divinity symbolizing the primordial state of all things, Chaos ought to be both nothingness and the embodiment of everything

Chaos is a reality created by Azathoth herself.

"Azathoth, Azathoth, can't you see? Why are you always asleep?"

"This makes you seem lonely."

【I live in my own form, and create reality, a reality called madness, folly, and chaos】

All things are born from Chaos as stated by Nyarlathotep

All things are born from chaos and will ultimately return to chaos.

Yog Sothoth's lore also talked about how worlds are arised from the concept of chaos.

Many people through the ages have expressed their ideas through words, seeing them as tools, but they had not imagined that the real world is born from words, so just one word may contribute to the rise of a universe from the concept of chaos, and then fixate it, so it never perishes again.

Metis, the goddess of wisdom's lore also stated the same thing again

In the infinitely distant past, the world existed in a state of complete chaos. As far as the eye could see, everything was a vast expanse of primordial waters, like a cauldron of life’s broth.

Now that we know what "Chaos" is, let's talk about Sea Of Quanta.

Sea Of Quanta has no limitation and boundaries

Here in the Sea of Quanta, there are no rules, no boundaries, and no limitations.
It has existed since the creation of the universe, but most of the time, it was just as barren as when the universe was created.

It birthed the Universe which we called "Imaginary Tree" now. Note that it's written as "Primordial Chaos".

A young shoot sprouted from the cracks of primordial chaos. Nurtured by time for billions of years, it grew into a huge, unrivaled tree.

Sea Of Quanta is a sea of infinite possibilies for creations. It's an existence beyond human's understanding.

In the infinitely distant past, the world existed in a state of complete chaos. As far as the eye could see, everything was a vast expanse of primordial waters, like a cauldron of life’s broth.
From this original sea, life was born. Distinct individuals intertwined, giving rise to ever more numerous and increasingly complex information. Over time, patterns and forms were recorded by an observer.

The "Sea of Quanta" is not a real ocean.
It does not belong to any particular planet, nor is it composed of liquid such as water.
In fact, you should regard it as a "cornerstone" that does not belong to a "single universe", a "medium" where many worlds of countless possibilities exist.

AN INFINITY OF POSSIBILITIES EBBS AND FLOWS IN THE GREAT YAWNING GAP FAR BEYOND YOUR SIGHTS
AN EXISTENCE BEYOND HUMAN UNDERSTANDING
- Second Key Manga : Su sinked into the sea of quanta

Both GGZ chaos and Hi3 SoQ are stated to be a sea of infinite possibilities, the origin of everything and the nothingness void. Since they set in the same cosmology, you can't have two origin void at the same time. The tree is born from the primordial chaos and this chaos' description matches with the higher plane above the sea which is also stated to be a void of infinite possibility and governs honkai itself.
SoQ is also called Sea of Information and this match up with metis' lore about the primoridal sea.

这世间的一切生命，一切信息都来自于原初之海，从生命与信息中提取智慧并将其撰写，便是我的职责。
All life and all information in this world originate from the Primordial Sea. Extracting wisdom from life and information and writing it down, that is my duty.

Now that I've presented enough proof of how Chaos and Sea Of Quanta are related, we know what to do right? It's time for everybody's favourite "Chain Scaling".

Yog Sothoth is 1-A. Azathoth likewise gain 1-A for being on par with Yog Sothoth and being a fellow Outer God. Azathoth create a reality called Chaos by living in her form which is Sea Of Quanta.
Imaginary space is L1-A as per old scaling from this thread. But this was later downgraded due to misconception of the tree growing through 11D bulk sea of quanta.
But now I've proved that The Imaginary Tree and space which were born through Primordial Chaos is bounded by 11D Bulk anymore, Imaginary space will get L1-A back.
Primordial Chaos will also be L1-A for being the embodiment of all things which serves as the background for space and time and all kind of possibilities.
(As of now, we have no way of knowing whether Primordial Chaos and Imaginary Space are the same thing although they do share a lot of similarities)
This is also consistent with Cocoon of Finality transcending all dimensions which is in vsb standard L1-A without any further context. As for whether it's referring to higher dimensions or not is answered in these.

Nagamitsu: I mean, the Imaginary Singularity should exist in all dimensions simultaneously, right?

Nagamitsu: If the number of dimensions corresponding to the Theater of Domination is much higher than those of reality… then detectable signals from the Imaginary Singularity would be many times weaker…

As a general rule-of-thumb, statements of being "above dimensions" and the like, whenever validly indicating a superiority over higher dimensions, fall under this tier without further context.

Okay okay pause. Now you are gonna point your finger up with a pair of glasses and say "Ackually, Sea of Quanta isn't L1-A because it's said to be 11 dimensional".
Hold up! Let me cook.

Just as Imaginary Tree is composed of Real Space and Imaginary Space, Sea Of Quanta also have two layers. One is the 11 dimensional bulk medium that carries bubble worlds and the another is the void, nothingness and chaotic abyss which even transcends Honkai itself.

In Conclusion,
Real space will be Low 1-C for having space-time + Alien Key higher dimension. Imaginary Space will be L1-A as we did in previous upgrade. (Downgrade is caused by SoQ being 11D and compactified (which isn't stated btw) and this thread distinguish between normal SoQ and abyss of SoQ which transcends Honkai) Sea Of Quanta will be L1-C for having 10 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal dimension but never stated as significent dimensions. (Note : SoQ dimensions are never stated to be compactified, Is it also possible that by containing infinite amount of insigificent dimensions make the bulk's dimensions also significent??) Sea of Quanta's abyss will have L1-A.

Edited - For those who are lost in the sauce about what I am trying to do here, here is the explanation. This upgrade thread is not to do everything from scratch with new informations. L1-A was downgraded in this thread due to SoQ being 11D and impossibility of L1-A being born through it. What I am trying to do here is proving that SoQ has another layer which "Chaos" and it's beyond 11D SoQ, thus making it possible for L1-A Tree to grow through it.

Agree - @Reiner04 @Random-Helper323 (1-A yog)
Neutral - @Vietthai96 (1A)
Disagree - @Vietthai96 (L1-A), @DarkDragonMedeus (L1-A), @Reiner04 (L1-A)

 

[EddisherSound]

Here we go again

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I disagree, Honkai is 3-B at most brother

 

[Weaver261]

I disagree, Honkai is 3-B at most brother

Very funny joke but I request you don't make useless commentaries like this which doesn't help advance the thread and clog the thread. I really don't want to see this goes into a mess.

 

[Voidnether]

I agree with this addition, given we still have the Imaginary Singularity on the cosmology blog to be rated Low 1-A still, just that the cosmology blog is given outdated template due to other reasons (i.e the scans being broken and the unfinished concept removal).

 

[SuperNova55555]

You shouldn’t even be able to do this since the verse is on lockdown. I’ll respond later anyways

 

[Hjdjdhf]

Her whole power is about R>F. As stated here, worlds and universes are born inside the language and words.

This feels pretty normal to me

 

[Re5yh]

 

[Reiner04]

Unlocking per OP's request.

 

[Mbpoops]

how tf did this get unlocked... ill share my opinion in a bit

 

[Nighting4l33yes]

The argument Chaos = Sea is interesting but needs more development. Is there more you can find on it? There's also an achievement in HSR called "The End is Also the Primordial Chaos" so this term is definitely a thing.

 

[Mbpoops]

Honkai verse has been taking L so much recently and as a supporter of the verse, it pains me to see people who didn't even play the games are shepherding the downgrades. As a humble lore and cosmology enjoyer of Honkai verse, allow me to put the cosmology in its right place. (Actually I am just bored :3)

1-A Yog Sothoth
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This one should be pretty simple and explicit. Yog Sothoth is said to transcend the boundaries of space and time. Simply transcending space and time is just Low 1-C. But since the very definition of space and time is born from her, this should be qualitative superiority.


Her whole power is about R>F. As stated here, worlds and universes are born inside the language and words.


Thus, Yog Sothoth's divine power can create worlds inside words which is R>F. Entire scan can be read here

Now we know that Yog Sothoth is unconstrained by time and space, transcend the space and time as definitions, it's pretty obvious for 1-A rating.

Okay this is just a pretext for the upgrade of the whole verse into L1-A. To upgrade the whole verse into L1-A, we need to talk about Chaos as the title suggested. What's Chaos? Did we ever talk about that in honkai threads? No! But I will now.

Chaos in Honkai
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Chaos is the initial state of all things, it's nothingness as stated in the Chaos' godhead profile.

Chaos is a reality created by Azathoth herself.

All things are born from Chaos as stated by Nyarlathotep

Yog Sothoth's lore also talked about how worlds are arised from the concept of chaos.

Metis, the goddess of wisdom's lore also stated the same thing again

Now that we know what "Chaos" is, let's talk about Sea Of Quanta.

Sea Of Quanta has no limitation and boundaries

It birthed the Universe which we called "Imaginary Tree" now. Note that it's written as "Primordial Chaos".

Sea Of Quanta is a sea of infinite possibilies for creations. It's an existence beyond human's understanding.

i would like to add that the soq holds all possibilites and these possibilities vary in size and dimensions so there very well could exist a world with 10 infinite spatial axis + 1 time

https://cdn.imgchest.com/files/00eba21bd8ae.webp

TL: "However, this does not stop us from from imagining the all types of universes of endless variety, each stemming from the same or different fundamental dimensionality and principles, as one after another「bubble world」―"

Now that I've presented enough proof of how Chaos = Sea Of Quanta, we know what to do right? It's time for everybody's favourite "Chain Scaling".

Yog Sothoth is 1-A. Azathoth likewise gain 1-A for being on par with Yog Sothoth and being a fellow Outer God.

im fine with 1-A loli yog but azathoth doesnt even have a page lmao

Azathoth create a reality called Chaos by living in her form which is Sea Of Quanta. Sea of Quanta will be L1-A for being the embodiment of all things which serves as the background for space and time and all kind of possibilities. This is also consistent with Cocoon of Finality transcending all dimensions which is in vsb standard L1-A without any further context. As for whether it's referring to higher dimensions or not is answered in these.


Okay okay pause. Now you are gonna point your finger up with a pair of glasses and say "Ackually, Sea of Quanta isn't L1-A because it's said to be 11 dimensional".
Hold up! Let me cook.

Just as Imaginary Tree is composed of Real Space and Imaginary Space, Sea Of Quanta also have two layers. One is the 11 dimensional bulk medium that carries bubble worlds and the another is the void, nothingness and chaotic abyss which even transcends Honkai itself.

tbf we know nothing about this world this was only shown to us after Su died (physically). Su however does talk about a world above the sea where he was chased by a female version of himself (vita) https://imgchest.com/p/bp45nqr2g45

In Conclusion,
Real space will be Low 1-C for having space-time + Alien Key higher dimension.

alien space is only above the spatial axis of real space which there are 3 so it would just be 4D spatially and we dont know if it has it's own time axis it could just share the same time axis as real space but that wouldnt qualify it for low 1-C. also alien space was destroyed by welt lol.

Imaginary Space will be L1-A as we did in previous upgrade.

i feel like this needs more explanation imaginary space wasnt talked abt much in this thread

(Downgrade is caused by SoQ being 11D and compactified (which isn't stated btw) and this thread distinguish between normal SoQ and abyss of SoQ which transcends Honkai) Sea Of Quanta will be L1-C for having 10 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal dimension but never stated as significent dimensions.

already talked about above. sea of quanta would be low 1-C minimum for containing a 2-A amount of worlds and separating them and having its own time axis

(Note : SoQ dimensions are never stated to be compactified, Is it also possible that by containing infinite amount of insigificent dimensions make the bulk's dimensions also significent??) Sea of Quanta's abyss will have L1-A.

idk how to feel about this most of this is from GGZ which a total of 2 people on the site have any knowledge of so its hard to disagree with this?

 

[Mbpoops]

The argument Chaos = Sea is interesting but needs more development. Is there more you can find on it? There's also an achievement in HSR called "The End is Also the Primordial Chaos" so this term is definitely a thing.

chaos and the sea have always been in relation to eachother so this isnt too far fetched for me

 

[SuperNova55555]

Uff, well, to tell the truth, I don't really care allat much if this thread is open or not, but something really has to be decided to be done with the verse.

Nevertheless, a response won't hurt and I did say I'd make one.

So I believe as an opener, this scan will have to suffice:

The main takeaway here are two particular points:

1. The Sea of Quanta is part of Real Space.
2. Imaginary Space (the main one, not subspace) is then naturally juxtaposed to both SoQ and IT as the combination of the latter are what form Real Space.

So, when you speak of this:

Just as Imaginary Tree is composed of Real Space and Imaginary Space, Sea Of Quanta also have two layers. One is the 11 dimensional bulk medium that carries bubble worlds and the another is the void, nothingness and chaotic abyss which even transcends Honkai itself.

^Not only is the scan there not saying what you're saying (which you intentionally also hid the context of; the truth is that it's literally unknown where he's at, so you're just saying shit out of your ass), but the conclusion also cannot be true given that the following 2 statements are also true:

• Real Space is explicitly 4-dimensional

• All the extra dimensions are compactified

^ As a precursor, it should be mentioned the above scan is a mistranslation, I'm js too lazy to get the proper TL rn; in actuality it says the "universe" has 4 infinite dimensions and 7 compactified ones. The importance of this lies in the fact that this refers to the entirety of real space, since at the point in time when the Vn was made, that's the only thing that term can refer to.

This whole thing accumulates in the fact that the entirety of Real Space (the combination of SoQ and IT), only has 4 actually relevant dimensions. Which by definition means that whatever those last points are trying to pull are complete bs. And js reaching outta nowhere.

Now, to respond to the general GGZ stuff.

Language frames the world, words make the rules, and so space and time are framed beyond this.

As I explained in the original GGZ thread, this one is an anti-feat.

There's no issue with Yog being beyond space-time, but her power over things doesn't exceed spacetime at all. What's going on is that she is simply giving meaning and definitions to the Chaos framed within Space-Time, so that means that whatever she creates is delimited by the size of whatever Space and Time contain. Ergo, her power cannot be used to upscale Space-Time or her creation itself, so this is fundamentally null as a point:

Yog Sothoth is 1-A. Azathoth likewise gain 1-A for being on par with Yog Sothoth and being a fellow Outer God. Azathoth create a reality called Chaos by living in her form which is Sea Of Quanta. Sea of Quanta will be L1-A for being the embodiment of all things which serves as the background for space and time and all kind of possibilities.

In fact, I'd be very surprised for you to find a single statement for anyone in GGZ being the origin of all Space and Time.

The closest thing you have is the Chaos statements like this one:

Many people through the ages have expressed their ideas through words, seeing them as tools, but they had not imagined that the real world is born from words, so just one word may contribute to the rise of a universe from the concept of chaos, and then fixate it, so it never perishes again.

^ But like, given that we assert that GGZ Chaos is SoQ, then what Yog does is just create universes (Imaginary Trees) out of SoQ... which is fine for a Low 2-C feat if that's what you're aiming for. (I mean, Real Space is the only Space with meaning supposedly hehe).

Sea Of Quanta has no limitation and boundaries

^ Other shit like this are meaningless and don't add anything to the point at hand, so I'm js not gonna bother talking about them.

As for where the GGZ mfs scale to. Well their power honestly shouldn't go past Low 1-C at the very best. As for their existence, prob js BDE1.

 

[Vietthai96]

Primordial Chaos is just the SoQ, and SoQ is stated to be 11D, end of story. The real space is just talking about Bubble and Leaf World which is 4D space-time

The Sea was stated to be Primordial Chaos because it is a chaotic place that existed before existence of Bubble World and Leaf World, with the Tree; thus, the term "primordial"

Nagamitsu: I mean, the Imaginary Singularity should exist in all dimensions simultaneously, right?

This mean nothing much, because it could well mean "all dimensions" as in all available dimensions within the verse which have 11 of those, not all dimensions as in all extension of physical dimensionality

Here in the Sea of Quanta, there are no rules, no boundaries, and no limitations.

Of course, it is infinite in size, mathematically speaking. Can you find the boundary and limit of infinity?

the another is the void, nothingness and chaotic abyss which even transcends Honkai itself.

1. Nothing like what you said
2. This place appears only once in a single panel in Su manga, and then, not getting any further elaboration upon, we don't even know its nature other than it is supposed to be a higher reality, but higher in relation to what, we don't know. You can assume it is higher than Real Space, which still make it at best 5D

All in all, still mostly similar argument in previous threads, with some minor addition and slightly different wording so i still disagree

About GGZ, I don't know much so i will refrain from talking about it

 

[Mbpoops]

1. Nothing like what you said
2. This place appears only once in a single panel in Su manga, and then, not getting any further elaboration upon, we don't even know its nature other than it is supposed to be a higher reality, but higher in relation to what, we don't know. You can assume it is higher than Real Space, which still make it at best 5D

Tbf it is above the honkai and the sea of quanta is supported by honkai (stated in part 2 give me a bit to find the scan)

 

[Vietthai96]

Tbf it is above the honkai and the sea of quanta is supported by honkai (stated in part 2 give me a bit to find the scan)

That still makes it, at best 6D, that is if we being generous about a non-elaborated realm that appear only once and get mentioned once

 

[Weaver261]

Primordial Chaos is just the SoQ, and SoQ is stated to be 11D, end of story.

Hasty generalization without considering GGZ which is the basis of this whole L1-A argument.

About GGZ, I don't know much so i will refrain from talking about it

Can u even give evaluation without considering the main backbone of the crt?? I am really confused honestly.

 

[Mbpoops]

That still makes it, at best 6D, that is if we being generous about a non-elaborated realm that appear only once and get mentioned once

i agree with this only with the currently accepted l1c scaling i mentioned this in my post above we know nothing about this realm

 

[AyOgUyS]

SuperNova and Vietthai96 make sense to me

 

[Mbpoops]

SuperNova and Vietthai96 make sense to me

did you read the op?

 

[AyOgUyS]

did you read the op?

Yes, but I still find the arguments of SuperNova and Vietthai96 more convincing than OP's arguments. I am however, not particularly knowledgeable on the verse so the inputs of more knowledgeable members should be prioritized.

 

[Mbpoops]

Uff, well, to tell the truth, I don't really care allat much if this thread is open or not, but something really has to be decided to be done with the verse.

i literally said DO NOT UPLOAD THIS. its wtv i guess

Nevertheless, a response won't hurt and I did say I'd make one.

So I believe as an opener, this scan will have to suffice:

The main takeaway here are two particular points:

1. The Sea of Quanta is part of Real Space.
2. Imaginary Space (the main one, not subspace) is then naturally juxtaposed to both SoQ and IT as the combination of the latter are what form Real Space.

wait what is this from hi3 or ggz? seele and kiana never fought in hi3 they are allies for the entire game. this gets contradicted by hi3 they separate the sea from reality (real space) theres also this qna

So, when you speak of this:

^Not only is the scan there not saying what you're saying (which you intentionally also hid the context of; the truth is that it's literally unknown where he's at, so you're just saying shit out of your ass), but the conclusion also cannot be true given that the following 2 statements are also true:

• Real Space is explicitly 4-dimensional

this shouldnt even be a discussion real space is explicitely 4D (3 space +1 time) why do we keep trying to make it 5D

• All the extra dimensions are compactified

^ As a precursor, it should be mentioned the above scan is a mistranslation, I'm js too lazy to get the proper TL rn; in actuality it says the "universe" has 4 infinite dimensions and 7 compactified ones. The importance of this lies in the fact that this refers to the entirety of real space, since at the point in time when the Vn was made, that's the only thing that term can refer to.

i actually do have the raws. however this scan is talking about the bubble world durandal is currently in not the hi3 world that 4D scan comes from otto. its pretty obvious its talking about the bubble as schrodinger wasnt revealed yet and was using a fake persona called "ironmask" when talking here

This whole thing accumulates in the fact that the entirety of Real Space (the combination of SoQ and IT), only has 4 actually relevant dimensions. Which by definition means that whatever those last points are trying to pull are complete bs. And js reaching outta nowhere.

Now, to respond to the general GGZ stuff.


As I explained in the original GGZ thread, this one is an anti-feat.

There's no issue with Yog being beyond space-time, but her power over things doesn't exceed spacetime at all. What's going on is that she is simply giving meaning and definitions to the Chaos framed within Space-Time, so that means that whatever she creates is delimited by the size of whatever Space and Time contain. Ergo, her power cannot be used to upscale Space-Time or her creation itself, so this is fundamentally null as a point:

In fact, I'd be very surprised for you to find a single statement for anyone in GGZ being the origin of all Space and Time.

The closest thing you have is the Chaos statements like this one:

^ But like, given that we assert that GGZ Chaos is SoQ, then what Yog does is just create universes (Imaginary Trees) out of SoQ... which is fine for a Low 2-C feat if that's what you're aiming for. (I mean, Real Space is the only Space with meaning supposedly hehe).

idk wht to say abt this you got that weaver i dont play loli slop

^ Other shit like this are meaningless an don't add anything to the point at hand, so I'm js not gonna bother talking about them.

As for where the GGZ mfs scale to. Well their power honestly shouldn't go past Low 1-C at the very best. As for their existence, prob js BDE1.

sure

 

[Vietthai96]

Hasty generalization without considering GGZ which is the basis of this whole L1-A argument.

If you want to say Chaos in GGZ and Primordial Chaos in Honkai Impact are the same, then you need to know that primordial chaos is SoQ which is 11D, which in turn destroys your argument about Chaos being Low 1-A. It has a directly assigned dimensionality statement; you can't just slap all statements into each other and expect them to work without taking into account the contradicting statements. You can have a greater chance of arguing Chaos in GGZ is Low 1-A by separate it from Primordial Chaos that is the Sea of Quanta

 

[SuperNova55555]

i actually do have the raws. however this scan is talking about the bubble world durandal is currently in not the hi3 world that 4D scan comes from otto. its pretty obvious its talking about the bubble as schrodinger wasnt revealed yet and was using a fake persona called "ironmask" when talking here

The raw for Universe there isn't the one used to Bubble Worlds at all. It's talking about the universe at large

 

[Weaver261]

If you want to say Chaos in GGZ and Primordial Chaos in Honkai Impact are the same, then you need to know that primordial chaos is SoQ which is 11D, which in turn destroys your argument about Chaos being Low 1-A. It has a directly assigned dimensionality statement; you can't just slap all statements into each other and expect them to work without taking into account the contradicting statements. You can have a greater chance of arguing Chaos in GGZ is Low 1-A by separate it from Primordial Chaos that is the Sea of Quanta

Edited - For those who are lost in the sauce about what I am trying to do here, here is the explanation. This upgrade thread is not to do everything from scratch with new informations. L1-A was downgraded in this thread due to SoQ being 11D and impossibility of L1-A being born through it. What I am trying to do here is proving that SoQ has another layer which "Chaos" and it's beyond 11D SoQ, thus making it possible for L1-A Tree to grow through it.

You can have a greater chance of arguing Chaos in GGZ is Low 1-A by separate it from Primordial Chaos that is the Sea of Quanta

And that's exactly what I am doing here T - T

 

[AyOgUyS]

Now that I've presented enough proof of how Chaos = Sea Of Quanta, we know what to do right? It's time for everybody's favourite "Chain Scaling".

And that's exactly what I am doing here T - T

You should reword the OP to avoid further misunderstandings

 

[Weaver261]

You should reword the OP to avoid further misunderstandings

Hasty posting caused hasty generalizations I guess. Anyway, I added that part to OP to avoid further misunderstanding.

 

[AyOgUyS]

Hasty posting caused hasty generalizations I guess. Anyway, I added that part to OP to avoid further misunderstanding.

 

[Mbpoops]

most of this is loli slop (ggz) which i know nothing about so uhh good luck i guess? real space is explicitly 4D though and alien space is not only just 4D spatially (no confirmed separate time axis) but also doesnt exist anymore because welt destroyed it.

 

[Vietthai96]

And that's exactly what I am doing here T - T

Proof? You are making a fanfiction of the Sea of Quanta having another layer of Chaos where nothing even stated there is something like that

 

[AyOgUyS]

GGZ genuinely doesn't even reach 6D let alone Outer cuz Super Sonic soloed the verse

 

[Mbpoops]

GGZ genuinely doesn't even reach 6D let alone Outer cuz Super Sonic soloed the verse

what are you talking about

 

[AyOgUyS]

what are you talking about

What? Don't you know Super Sonic has canonically soloed every verse in fiction? (Except DC)

Anyway tho I'll just wait for more ppl to show up >:3

 

[Fezzih_007]

what are you talking about

His off his meds, don't worry about It.

 

[AyOgUyS]

His off his meds, don't worry about It.

not my fault u humans have ridiculous prices for pills, can't believe I had to spend more than a cent

 

[Fezzih_007]

not my fault u humans have ridiculous prices for pills, can't believe I had to spend more than a cent

Bro, the Sonic glazing meds are free.
People are probally scaming you lol.

 

[Vietthai96]

Anyway, i need to prepare my bed for sleeping; it is midnight in my timezone

Also reading all scans about GGZ Chaos, I still don't see anything sufficient for Low 1-A. You are stretching that everything born from chaos returns to it shenanigans as something equal to that Chaos is the ground for all physical dimensionality, and of course yeah you can stretch and interpreting it as such but from what i can see, it is a big leap in logic to consider Chaos such a thing

I remember in old GGZ Yog downgrade i'm fine with Yog being 1-A due to power over definition, not Chaos thing but that's just me

Also guys, no derailing the thread

 

[AyOgUyS]

Bro, the Sonic glazing meds are free.
People are probally scaming you lol.

WHAT?! HOW DARE THEY!

 

[Mbpoops]

Anyway, i need to prepare my bed for sleeping; it is midnight in my timezone

Also reading all scans about GGZ Chaos, I still don't see anything sufficient for Low 1-A. You are stretching that everything born from chaos returns to it shenanigans as something equal to that Chaos is the ground for all physical dimensionality, and of course yeah you can stretch and interpreting it as such but from what i can see, it is a big leap in logic to consider Chaos such a thing

no comment

I remember in old GGZ Yog downgrade i'm fine with Yog being 1-A due to power over definition, not Chaos thing but that's just me

this is fine with me aswell as she exist in a world unreachable by anyone in the cosmology. to my understanding when we see the realm it us the player and not an actual character reaching that realm and thats who she is addressing

Also guys, no derailing the thread