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Clarification of The Scope of Already Accepted Regeneration High Godly Mondaiji Tachi

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Some update to the mondaiji tachi high godly regeneration section with the addition of [Time, Concept, History, Spiritual, Material] from what was done before

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High Godly Regeneration Clarification

This argument aims to clarify the scope of High Godly Regeneration in the Divine Spirits in Mondaiji, based on the Spiritual Essence system in the novel, especially the sections of Light Novel Volumes 11-12, which explain Spiritual Essence and the Perseus Case.
There are two measurements to indicate the level of the which called [Spiritual Essence] in Little Garden.1st, [Total Mass] in the Material World. The Star Spirits being counted as a Strongest Species is because they were a species stands at the top of this field. The Star Spirits, the perfect lifeforms which are amalgams of Material Physique (Material), Stellar Physique (Astral) and Imaginary Number Physique (Tachyon), are considered to be extremely powerful among the Three Great Strongest Species.2nd, the [Density of Time]. The higher for existing time of a [Spiritual Essence] from its materialization to the present, its possibilities of manifestation and its density of existence in parallel universes, the mightier and brighter a [Spiritual Essence].”

”Then Divine Spirits are the Strongest Species that dominates Spiritual Essences of era and concept.”

”"Perseus" is a knight that was described by Greek Mythology that was written on BCE. If that "Perseus" had his Spiritual Essence (Existence) deteriorated, there is a possibility that the influence of the Greek Mythology on the future generations is dropping rapidly. At worst, even there is a chance it being annihilated completely. However, since the influence of the Greek mythology to the future worlds, becomes wedge on large-scale "Historical Transition Period" such as philosophy, sect, political,...... they will emerge on all time axes in one form or another regardless whether their stories and fables exist or nonexistent. Therefore, superficial method isn't enough to kill beings ascended to Divine Spirits from belief. As mentioned before, since the Divine Spirits are lore of the stars, their Spiritual Essence can resurrect by the enforcing power which maintains their lore.”

Reference: www.baka- tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Mondaiji-tachi_ga_isekai_kara_kuru_soudesu_yo#Volume_11_-_Strike_Faster_Than_Starlight.211

1. The Nature of Spiritual Essence

The novel explains that the level of spiritual essence is measured through two main parameters:

b. Total Mass in the Material World: This can be used as an indication that their existence has real mass/presence in the material layer.

a. Density of Time: The longer a spiritual essence has existed from its initial materialization until now, and the more possibilities of manifestation in parallel universes, the higher its density and power.

Therefore, the existence of Divine Spirits is not limited to a single point in time and is spread across various time exist .

2. Conceptual and Historical Scope

There is an explicit statement: Divine Spirits are one of the most powerful species, dominating the Spiritual Essence of both eras and concepts.

This demonstrates that their existence is tied to conceptual and historical structures, not just physical bodies.

In the example of Perseus:

If their spiritual essence is hunted, the influence of their mythology expands. Even if their stories and fables disappear, they can still reappear across timelines in one form or another, regardless of whether the stories themselves still exist or not.

This demonstrates that their existence is embedded in large-scale historical transitions; the elimination of one manifestation is not enough to permanently kill them, nor is even a superficial method of destruction sufficient.
3. Resurrection Mechanism


There is also mention of spiritual essence being able to revive through the enforcing power that maintains their lore. Therefore, even if spiritual essence is lost, Divine Spirits can return through the authority that supports their existence in the Little Garden cosmology. This could encompass the following restorations of existence:

a. Material Layer

b. Spiritual Core

c. Conceptual Identity

d. Historical Existence

e. Temporal Manifestation

4 Scopes for High Godly

Based on all the explanations above, High Godly Regeneration of Divine Spirits could reasonably include:

a. Material

b. Spiritual

c. Concept

d. History

e. Time (Timeline)

CONCLUSION:

Based on the explanation of Spiritual Essence/Divine Spirit Mondaiji in LN Volumes 11-12, regeneration encompasses material destruction, spiritual destruction, conceptual destruction, historical erasure, and erasure in one or more timelines.

Therefore, the addition of aspects in High Godly Regeneration remains within the appropriate limits, as follows:

High Godly Regeneration [Time, Concept, History, Spiritual, Material]
With the Divine Spirit in the Little Garden system, its existence is supported by spiritual essence, measured by the Total Mass of the Material World and the Descendants of Time. This spiritual essence encompasses its conceptual and historical existence, spread across various time periods. Even if its spiritual essence deteriorates or its story and influence disappear, it can still reappear across all time axes through the enforcing power that maintains its lore. This enables regeneration from destruction affecting its material aspects, spiritual core, conceptual identity, historical existence, and temporal manifestation.

I am here only to give my opinion and not to force you. Please feel free to express your opinion as you wish. I will accept it. "Thank you."

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That would count as Mid-Godly. Divine Spirits are tied to their concepts/history, so destroying their fables is enough to kill them. For High-Godly they would have to comeback even if their concepts disappears which isn't the case here.
who can enforce their authority to resurrect even after having their Spiritual Essence wiped out, Divine Spirits will emerge on all time axes in one form or another regardless whether their stories and fables are existent or nonexistent, and their true form would cause doom upon the lower layers of Little Garden, who will always come back as long as their lore isn't destroyed or a completely erasure history, who can enforce their authority to come back after having their spiritual essence disappeared,which represent one’s existence across history and concept along one’s astral, material and imaginary make up.
Divine Spirits not only regenerate from the destruction of body, mind, and soul, but also after their Spiritual Essence is erased. This Spiritual Essence has a total scope of existence explicitly covering material, astral and imaginary aspects, dominance over concepts and eras, and the density of time, namely existence spread across various timelines and parallel universes.) With such a broad structure of existence that can be erased but they can still return through the enforcing power maintained by their lore, then the regeneration has exceeded the Mid Godly standard which only includes body/mind/soul.
The argument is actually a little inaccurate Divine Spirits are not only body/soul, but Spiritual Essence which explicitly has the scope of their concepts, history, and temporary existence. They also stated that they can return even after their Spiritual Essence is erased and will still appear in various time axes as long as lore as the foundation of cosmology still exists.
This means that what is regenerated is not just a soul or an ordinary story, but a structure of existence that includes conceptual and historical aspects. It has exceeded the limits of Mid Godly which only includes body/soul/mind. High Godly beings don't require their return after the concept has been completely and utterly erased from the entire cosmology. All that's required is the ability to regenerate after one of the additional aspects besides body/soul/mind is erased. In the case of Divine Spirits, those aspects are concepts, history, and temporal manifestations, which are part of their spiritual essence. Because they can resurrect after that layer is destroyed, the High Godly classification remains valid and cannot be reduced to Mid Godly simply because Divine Spirits still have an anchor in the form of lore.
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