Classic Super Sonic, Time Eater and Dark Gaia revision.

[KarmodF]

Pretty much Copy and paste from the post I made in Matthew's wall:

-Time Eater is capable of putting a serious fight against Serious Classic and Modern Sonic in both Super Forms, and he is only Low 2-C instead of 2-C, this would scale to Eggman.

-Classic Super Sonic and (possibly) Heavy King would scale to 2-C, main reason?, the Phantom Ruby has shown to be a powersource as strong as the Emeralds, yes, I know Negative=/=Positive Energy one is stronger tan the other, but the Phantom Ruby Powered Infinite to the Point of him being able to kick Modern Sonic and easilly overpowering him, not to mention Classic Super should already by 2-C at peak since he helped Modern to defeat The Time Eater.

-Dark Gaia should scale to the strongest form of Super Sonic, he is literally a God of the Sonic Universe (Embodies the Dark, belive I did my research) and could easily scale to Solaris being the God of Time (All Sonic Gods that represent a concept could even scale to Solaris and Time Eater, except Emerl, he is just the exception of the rule), he pretty much put Super Sonic at his limits, something that no enemy has done (Not even Solaris), he should be comparable to Chip/Light Gaia, who's power power the Emeralds (The Temples were Sonic recharged the powerless/blank Emeralds).

Any feedback would be apreciated.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

One did firces already come out?

And two what happened?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

No Sonic villain scales to each other due to the nature of the Emeralds. Thoughts to power and that bullshit. It's a matter of getting what you need from them. If they don't show feats of X levels of power, tough shit for them. They stay where they are. Hell, Dark Gaia's tiering is too high imo.

 

[KarmodF]

They stay where they are. Hell, Dark Gaia's tiering is too high imo.

Yeah because being a monster that rivals the incarnation of a 2-C object should make you 4-A, seriously give some more backup than just being bias in your opinion.

 

[Sausages123456789]

the phantom ruby has yet to show it's true power.

although it has been theorized that it can do really shocking things, we have to wait until forces comes out so we can see what it can do.

 

[KarmodF]

''Bump''

 

[The_Everlasting]

There is literally no reason to scale Dark Gaia to Solaris with the logic of "they're both Gods".

 

[KarmodF]

There is literally no reason to scale Dark Gaia to Solaris with the logic of "they're both Gods".

What about being the rival of Chip for hundreds of years and matching the Golem and Full Super Sonic?

 

[Dust_Collector]

Dark Gaia didn't fight a full power Super Sonic, the Chaos Emeralds weren't amped with postive emotions during Sonic Unleashed.

 

[KarmodF]

They were empowered by the Light Temples, locations that work in sync. with the Emeralds.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Stil doesn't mean Dark Gaia is 2-C.

 

[KarmodF]

Stil doesn't mean Dark Gaia is 2-C.

How does fighting a being that comes from the same source that empower the Chaos Emeralds isnt 2-C?

 

[Sausages123456789]

btw dark gaia didn't put super sonic to the limits, sonic was just in bad shape when he used the super state and easily one shotted him at the end of the fight when he regained his stamina after he was weakened (he had to wait until the right moment though because he needed to break dark gaia's sheild and quickly save chip)

if we're using the wii version, super sonic didn't one shot him, but he defeated perfect dark gaia on his own, so it was nothing about limits at all.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Stil doesn't mean Dark Gaia is 2-C.

How does fighting a being that comes from the same source that empower the Chaos Emeralds isnt 2-C?

They recharged completely drained Chaos Emeralds to make them function, they didn't empower the Chaos Emeralds to their maximum possible strength.

 

[Sausages123456789]

this was a weakened sonic so...

SS being pushed to the limits didn't happen at all.

 

[KarmodF]

Well, what about the other points?

 

[Sausages123456789]

sonic forces will show us the power of the phantom ruby so we can't talk about the heavy king rn.

mania didn't explain anything.

 

[Dark649]

Time Eater did not forced both Super Sonic's to their full potential, and was also stomped by them.

We don't know the true extend of the power of the Phantom Ruby, i would also like to point that both Eggman and Heavy King did not fully control the Ruby, only Infinite will be able to do so.

Dark Gaia does not scale to Solaris, same for God of Destruction Chaos.

So, i can close this thread.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

There has ALREADY been a thread on this.