Concept Type 1 Question layers?

[AnimesFreak2]

Let's say I have characters inverse whom are 1-A/Type 1 Conceptual beings because the archetypes/universal concepts they embody derive their power from them right? ( correct me if understanding wrong )

What if those beings themselves were shaped by greater archeytpes inverse

Like say there was some higher realm beyond them ( 1-A/1-A+/High 1-A whatever ) and there exist formless archeytpes shaped into a lower state of those 1-A beings in the lower realm

Does then contradict the characters themselves having type 1 concept manip? Or is that not the case and you can have hierachies of type 1 conceptual existences/archetypes inverse?

Also does that affect Ap in any way?

Sorry if this is worded weirdly

 

[AnimesFreak2]

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[AnimesFreak2]

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[ActuallySpaceMan42]

Type 1 is still being discussed at the moment, but it currently refers to a concept that governs something while remaining independent of the reality in which that thing exists. Therefore, it is perfectly fine for Type 1 Concepts to be created by other Type 1 Concepts, as long as they are independent of the reality they influence.

Beyond that, anything else goes.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Type 1 is still being discussed at the moment, but it currently refers to a concept that governs something while remaining independent of the reality in which that thing exists. Therefore, it is perfectly fine for Type 1 Concepts to be created by other Type 1 Concepts, as long as they are independent of the reality they influence.

Beyond that, anything else goes.

- Ok cool so type 1's CAN create "lesser type 1's" good to know

- As for my second question does it affect AP in anyways? Or does that only apply to like transdual stuff?

- Oh is there a thread on the current changes or something?

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

- As for my second question does it affect AP in anyways? Or does that only apply to like transdual stuff?

Well, if you have full control of the Type 1 Concepts and can use them to their full extent over the reality they govern, you can scale your AP to them.

- Oh is there a thread on the current changes or something?

Yeah, in staff discussions.

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Well, if you have full control of the Type 1 Concepts and can use them to their full extent over the reality they govern, you can scale your AP to them.

Yeah, in staff discussions.

I mean yeah I would assume so lol...typically type 1's are at least 1-A due to how they work no?

If you could give me a link broski

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

I mean yeah I would assume so lol...typically type 1's are at least 1-A due to how they work no?

Not automatically, they can be Tier 2, as long as they're independent of the Low 2-C Universe they govern.

If you could give me a link broski

On Conceptual Manipulation Type 1

Permission from @Just a Random Butler 🥰🥰🥰 Recently there has been a divide on whether Type 1 concepts should be treated as universals or not. For example, here, here, and here. ('Universals' is not referring to the literal universe, that's a nominal misunderstanding). Many people are using an...

vsbattles.com

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Not automatically, they can be Tier 2, as long as they're independent of the Low 2-C Universe they govern.

On Conceptual Manipulation Type 1

Permission from @Just a Random Butler 🥰🥰🥰 Recently there has been a divide on whether Type 1 concepts should be treated as universals or not. For example, here, here, and here. ('Universals' is not referring to the literal universe, that's a nominal misunderstanding). Many people are using an...

vsbattles.com

- Oh really? Interesting

- Thank you