She literally does not have the speed to effect Conquest before he realizes she's reviving. Unless upon resurrection she suddenly becomes trillions of times faster or is able to stop time itself there is no way she can do anything to Conquest, no matter how chill he is.
Dude, he ain't gonna be chilling around, he actively goes out of his way to make things as bloody as possible, he wants people to die. She's dead? He would just go on to kill everyone else.
He can literally flatten japan two trillion times over in the time it takes her to think "I". In fact he probably would do exactly that.
He didn't genocide the humanity tho.
This isn’t his universe, he has no obligations to the empire here, it’s just a playground for a guy who enjoys stomping people.
He was in the middle of fighting Mark, who is a better fight than all of humanity times 100.
Fair but wouldn't he play around and stomp people? Instead instantly erasing humanity.
Except Makima has been completely shredded before yet didn't consider herself inferior to the people who did said shredding (see Power and random dudes with guns), the only time this happened was with Pochita and she already saw him as superior to her in the first place so that's just a non-factor
Fair, but Conquest after suffering massive, almost death-provoking damage from Eve was shown to be far inferior to his healthy self like how he wasn't able to fly that far or fast against a damaged Mark unlike before, so he'd definitely be at a disadvantage against her if she pulled her discount Mangekyo Sharingan off on him before anything else
Wouldn't really be all of Japan though so she still has the advantage of tricking him into an off-guarded Bang or biological manip attack with a delayed resurrection even if every Japanese person but one was killed, especially given that the speed here is equalised
Yes this is very much what would happen 10 out of 10 times in this MU lmao Makima negs
Yeah two reasons.
Sure, perhaps, but he has relative to his own speed, years upon years to do this before Makima’s particles move.(this might be an exaggeration, I don’t remember exactly how much faster he is) It’s literally that scene from megamind, but instead of flying a kite, it’s bullrushing people
Makima ain't gonna face him. He will think shes dead and go stomp some random devils or whatever he does. She will touch a corpse's head and tell hell devil to get this guy out.
Power and random dudes with guns aren't people snapping their fingers and the vibrations from said attacks turn her into a mist and kill everyone within the city. Pretty huge false equivalence.
It really isn't. If some dude can flex and wipe out japan, she isn't going to be so up her own ass to believe there's any superiority there. Power and literal fodder? She is above them, in all regards, so what if they can hurt her a bit? An ant can hurt a human too. Being hurt by someone who's below you and still thinking you're above them, isn't the same as being obliterated by someone who eclipses anything you have ever seen or even knew existed in raw power with the simplest action.
And when she hasn't? Yeah she has lead with it before, but there's also been times she hasn't, and it most certainly isn't something she whips out on literally anyone who ever engages against her in any way whatsoever. It's an option, an option she's liable to use, but it isn't "match starts, mindhax before anyone even moves" type deal based solely on what we see in the manga.
A dying Conquest could literally gut a low 5-B my dude...
What do you mean "wouldn't be all of japan", it very well could be. A tiny country like that ain't much, Viltrumites have literally done worse through collateral.
The coward's way I fear smh
Lad he could piss off and still kill her accident. The amount of damage he could do to the planet just casually if he wanted to is asinine, he outright beats the shit out of people who have wiped out whole civilizations in seconds, casually.
If he wanted to he could punch the planet once and kill everything on it. Dude is planetary, even characters below him can do stuff like that. Hell in the comic, earth was put in a hostage situation by weakened viltrumites, most of which he can one shot at full health, by going "yeah btw let us live here or we'll just destroy the whole planet before anyone can even retaliate back".
.....HOW? Equalised speed and he's ramming through her and japan in a blink of an eye
There he understimated Mark and just let him hit him to continue the fight
At that point just make a new thread. 3 pages in changing the MU ain't it, just gonna be confusing and obnoxious when people read it back or come in to discuss it.
But, in this scenario, she is haxxed enough to potentially take him out, especially since he’d prob just, idk, gore the entire city block over immediate wiping.
No because he was busy fighting mark, he still killed a LOT of people regardless? He has no obligation to the empire in makima's world as someone already mentioned, he wasn't allowed to kill everyone on earth specifically cause iirc they wanted to use humans to breed new viltrumites.
In light of this, I take back the comment about building the coffin, he’d prob have only gotten part way through the book before the atoms start moving.
isn't conquest MFTL+ tho, it's bigger than 221c
the problem is that iirc, she needs time to do it, it's not a passive ability, you think conquest is gonna let her do it? He'd be throwing her across the country
Oh, on the profile I just saw him being comparable to Omni man, and that had his feat of traveling through space.
The ratings formatting is kind of misleading. The calc ain't his top speed, just the minimum for that feat, they can travel across the galaxy and dodge and mog ships that can do so in days' time. I forgot what it was, but pretty sure they're in the low billions c.
Viltrumites are the only legible profiles and are still pretty flawed, who was in charge of this ?
Pretty sure they were ripped from the OBD and have been very slowly getting tweaked since the show became popular, but due to the split of the show and comic, most of the attention is on the latter so the comics get a tad sidelined. I think people are working on them though? Just not done set up yet.
The 3.38 billion c end seems to be what's accepted, going off the verse page
The verse as a whole is dead, I messaged most supporters to check the CRT I'm making and none showed up, same with the current TV Immortal thread
Why ?
DM me next CRT ig.
The method of her getting obliterated by X has pretty much never been a factor for her seeing X as superior after the fact, which is why I mentioned Power and those random fodders regardless of the power difference between them and Conquest lmfao. The false equivalence claim isn't valid here because I'm simply comparing Makima being destroyed in different occasions to Makima hypothetically getting one shot in a similar fashion, which is a pretty 1:1 comparison except for the power difference which is irrelevant in this case.
Now who's making an argument stemmed from a false equivalence? I have never mentioned her getting merely hurt or damaged by other randoms, just her simply getting utterly destroyed by Power shredding through her durability like butter, yet she got back up and didn't care one bit about it which leads me to believe that Makima would have a similar reaction after getting split in pieces one (1) time by Conquest's casual AP
Except that's the entire idea, her Control and Bio manip are both weapons she uses at the get-go depending on the opponent she faces in the first place, well them or the Hybrids/Devils and given that Conquest is a one-shotter like Angel and Pochita, it'd be the most likely option that she'd use Control or Hybrids against him
The starting distance between them is 4km, so unless you're saying Makima wouldn't be able to say the word "Down" in the time that Conquest moves that distance to approach her and throw a right hook in time, this would be a non-factor. Also speed is equalised so
Which is why I didn't talk about his AP but rather his speed. We're already equalising his speed when he's healthy and he's shown to be slower after taking Eve's blast head-on, so Conquest after getting majorly damaged by Makima's bio manip would logically be slower after being damaged by it (unless the rules establish that the speed is always equal no matter what)
It's cause you said "most of" Japan so I had to specify that for Conquest to even be able to kill her, he'd have to kill all of Japan's population
The delay isn't fixed so it's unproveable that Conquest can just piss off before she delays her res, especially with, again, equal speeds lol. Even if he could, her bio manip having a certain range is irrelevant as Makima would certainly not just allow Conquest to leave the vicinity or not be able to catch up to him since we saw her being able to TP anywhere in the country with either Prinz (Earth-Hell TP) or rats (Reze's death) or her being able to invoke any sacrifice to BFR Conquest with Hell's hand who can be miles away for all she cares. Point is, range is irrelevant here
not sure if it happened in the comics but show mark has the resistence due to squid
It obviously happened in the comic, but that's because they're physically stronger than the sequids, not due to an actual ability
Makima doesn't have to reveal that she's revived. As long as she has a consciousness she can use her abilities. So Conquest loses if he focuses on her and dies faster if he doesn't. He can turn the tides depending on what he does first. But, I could give him note of Makima is capable of.
He already done this, he's not capable of this DC with a clap. Powerscaling shit gets weird.
I want to keep it Invincible centric.
I obviously mean Conquest vs Metallix Mark II
It's a stomp, people aren't even discussing the actual conditions but hypotheticals
