Sir sun man said:
ok what the shit why are we talking about Nioh in a dark souls vs code vain thread that's thread derailment at its finest. Buuut since it already started might as well give my two cents.
That has nothing to do with Skill or experience though its AP bullshit and too be honest a hundred thousand year old god of war who fought dragons and other gods for a living is far superior in terms of skill and experience then anyone in Nioh/code vain so far and unless they plant to introduce some warrior as ancient as the human race into the mix then nameless king kinda takes the skill/experience quota by a ******* country mile.
Well yeah if the ap and hax can counter act said skill then true is not an instant win card, but if the ap is close and hax are not prevalent then it is an insta win card.
Thats ap not skill my dude plus that is mostly due to the vets not being in their prime being slower and over all weaker which doesn't quite apply to an immortal god of war but what ever.
Ehhh that's not how that works man you can literally start the game wearing nothing but a loin cloth and cave man club and later down the line you can beat ancient warriors and gods in one sitting calling ashen one a "rookie" when he/she in lore got to the point of linking the fire before (but ultimately failed at it the first time around) is pretty disingenuous and bias.
That point can be applied to any souls like protag William can die a dozen times and come back knowing how his opponent fights better queen slayer is the same shtick and so on just applying it to the soul protags is ageing disingenuous ageing.
Wait rooting tooting ******* second are you using cross overs? Seriously? One we don't do that on this wiki if we did every god damned marvel and dc character would scale off one another, two that's as none canon as it gets my dude
well that depends which Key are we using here because nameless king one shot any key that isn't 6B and above
Its not a crossover when both Nioh and Ninja Gaiden have been confirmed to be the same verse.
Doesnt get rid of the fact William has drawed Jin Hayabusa who is the ancestor of Ryu.
At the start of the game they are 100% a rookie its evident on your equipment for one.
Choosing the depraved class doesnt make them any less of one.
In fact the classes in general explictly point out how your Ashen one/Chosen undead etc is nothing special and would be considered a mook.
Nothing implies he became masterful in any regards as the game progressed only that he became physically stronger.
If we compared who can use a sword better between William and a Souls protag its hands down William.
And i have and beat all the Souls games.
Living weapon also allows him to stomp out the nameless king pretty easily.
and so on just applying it to the soul protags is ageing disingenuas againg.
^ Never once only applied it to them.
I pointed out how it lets them gain the upperhand against an enemy and that they are able to learn how the enemy fights more.
This goes for Queenslayer etc. Not so much William since hes canonly only died one time shown in cutscene.
While the Queenslayer has died twice canonly.
While the rest are left ambigious.
Killing Dragons literally comes nowhere close to taking out Yamato No Orochi.
That's literally the japanese lore equal to the devil since it was Susanoo in lore that killed it.
William Kills it despite it being brought back to life amped up on Amrita.
Anyway, on track now.
Queenslayer has far more Versality than the Ashen one and can literally turn into particles to evade blows and pretty much spam this.
His weapons are also ever adapting and implied to be alive. Bloodveils in general give him a pretty big versatile advantage alongside some of his more busted gifts.
The Nameless King hasnt took on anything near the league of world ending threats.
The Queenslayer has.
