Darkshine Vs Endeavor (One-Punch Man Vs My Hero Academia)

[Therefir]

Darkshine Vs Endeavor

Darkshine:
Attack Potency: 11.14 Teratons of TNT
Durability: 22.28 Teratons of TNT
Lifting Strength: Class P (6.70 Trillion Metric Tons)

Endeavor:
Attack Potency: 18.65 Teratons of TNT
Durability: 18.65 Teratons of TNT
Lifting Strength: Class P (165.96 Trillion Metric Tons)

Speed is equalized
Battle takes place on Ground Zero

Pinnacle Of Strength:

Flame Hero: 8 (Kaio1277999, Anonymous_Learner, CastoriceTheFifth, GodEarh206, EnderLord8, Bruhtelho, Therefir, Epiccheev)

 

[Kachon123]

Darkshine's durability comes from him being completely unharmed by that value, so Endeavor shouldn't be able to easily injure him. Especially not when Darkshine is using Shimmer, which allows him to deflect attacks.

Darkshine can also greatly increase his attack power by bulking up, which should allow him to close the gap and deal significant damage to Endeavor. A Garou who was 3.713 Teratons at the time was unable to deflect a tackle from Darkshine despite having far greater mastery over WSRSF than the version of himself that could deflect 100 megaton attacks while being in the kilotons range. This resulted in Garou having all the bones in his torso shattered nearly into fine powder. Endeavor really wouldn't want to get hit by a named attack like Superalloy Bazooka since he doesn't have regen like Garou or special physiology that allows him to operate while being split in half like Orochi.

Endeavor's beams would likely just get tanked, and if the heat from stronger attacks (such as Prominence Burn) gets too much, Darkshine can blow them away with shockwaves.

 

[Therefir]

Bump.

 

[EnderLord8]

Following

 

[Apotheosis69]

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I mean, those are lasers right? Not pure flames.

Though shouldn't Darkshine scale to his Durability? Least when he bulks up?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I mean, those are lasers right? Not pure flames.

Though shouldn't Darkshine scale to his Durability? Least when he bulks up?

I don't think so seeing as Darkshine outright states that he has no idea how to even hurt himself.

 

[Apotheosis69]

I don't think so seeing as Darkshine outright states that he has no idea how to even hurt himself.

Damn, then if he can increase his power by bulling and willpower. Then both stats should upscale a Looot higher. Cus thats textbook Tanking.

Which like that stat difference? 8x or somethin along those lines?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Damn, then if he can increase his power by bulling and willpower. Then both stats should upscale a Looot higher. Cus thats textbook Tanking.

Which like that stat difference? 8x or somethin along those lines?

We don't rate in-universe stat gaps like that, though it would a lot of things infinitely simpler if we did.

 

[Therefir]

Even if Darkshine can tank attacks twice as strong as his own, he needs to worry much more about the heat from Endeavor's attacks.

 

[MrTayman616]

This is a weird one... Darkshine might just crush out mentally if Endeavor matches his power.

 

[Kachon123]

Darkshine might just crush out mentally if Endeavor matches his power

I don't think so. What would really make his mental state decline is if Endeavor is able to injure him significantly. Remember, his raw power was nothing compared to Bang's martial arts and yet he still retained absolute confidence in himself.

 

[MrTayman616]

I don't think so. What would really make his mental state decline is if Endeavor is able to injure him significantly. Remember, his raw power was nothing compared to Bang's martial arts and yet he still retained absolute confidence in himself.

Darkshine has no known resistance to heat, which is the main weapon of Endeavor. So it'd happen even at the best situation imo.

Also, Bang seemingly didn't attack him at all, only reflecting his attacks over and over as Darkshine himself claimed. (which is basically the same thing he did to Metal Bat as well iirc)

So i'm not sure if he knows about how strong Bang truly is (aka Awakening Breath and Exploding Heart Release Fist).

This is what we accept for base Bang:

At least Small Country level (Considered one of the pillars of the Hero world alongside Superalloy Darkshine, even overwhelming him in a sparring match, although he is vastly inferior in raw strength. Severely damaged Elder Centipede's carapace. Has a friendly rivalry with Atomic Samurai who holds the utmost respect for him, despite refusing to acknowledge those he considers as weak)

 

[Kachon123]

Also, Bang seemingly didn't attack him at all, only reflecting his attacks over and over as Darkshine himself claimed. (which is basically the same thing he did to Metal Bat as well iirc)

So i'm not sure if he knows about how strong Bang truly is (aka Awakening Breath and Exploding Heart Release Fist).

This is what we accept for base Bang

That's not the point I'm making. What I'm saying is that simply matching Darkshine's AP has never been shown to be enough to break his mental state. Darkshine takes pride mostly in his durability. His raw power was had no effect on his fight with Bang. He kept getting knocked on his ass, but because he was unharmed, it didn't mean much to him.

Darkshine has no known resistance to heat, which is the main weapon of Endeavor. So it'd happen even at the best situation imo.

I still disagree with this. What made Darkshine scared of Garou wasn't just that Garou was able to harm him because even in the fight we saw that the amount of damage done was relatively minor. What made Darkshine crash out was Garou's rapid growth rate, hence why right before the scene where Garou appeared large in Darkshine's mind (when he first felt fear), he had an inner monologue on how Garou is rapidly growing in speed, strength, and skill all at once. Garou was an overwhelming force in all regards.

Darkshine's mental state only completely shattered during his interactions with Golden Sperm and VFU because Garou laid the groundwork of instilling fear in both his mind and body. Endeavor's heat isn't necessarily going to bring him to that same point. Especially since he's an experienced hero who has likely faced flame-based monsters with that never happening to him. Also as I mentioned above, he has answers such as dispersing flames using shockwaves.

 

[Therefir]

I disagree with the idea that Darkshine could disperse Endeavor's flames. Darkshine has never demonstrated the ability to generate air pressure with his attacks. His shockwaves come from striking physical objects and have not shown any capacity to disperse gases like fire. Even if he could, those shockwaves would still need feats to scale to his 6-B AP.

Meanwhile, Endeavor's Hellflame attacks can actually clash with 6-B shockwaves, and his Flashfire Fist is even more powerful.

Endeavor's Flashfire Fist is also strong and durable, capable of withstanding and blocking 6-B attacks from All For One.

The idea that Darkshine could disperse 6-B flames with shockwaves is just as nonsensical as claiming he could obliterate >18 teratons characters, especially considering that even Endeavor's flames have 6-B durability and force.

 

[Therefir]

As for the kind of damage his attacks would inflict on Darkshine, even Endeavor's basic attacks can burn the chest of a High-End (the ripped arm was from the force of the attack, not the heat), and Darkshine wouldn't survive a Prominence Burn.

 

[Apotheosis69]

And with Darkshine's huge bulkup and his Bazooka/Missile punches?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Who's the more skilled fighter of the two of them? Darkshine isn't a martial artist but he can throw hella hands as proven by his fight with Garou.

 

[Therefir]

Who's the more skilled fighter of the two of them? Darkshine isn't a martial artist but he can throw hella hands as proven by his fight with Garou.

Darkshine doesn't utilize formal martial arts, but he is perceptive enough to notice the difference in skill between Garou and Bang, executing a simple yet devastating tackle that Garou, at the time, was not skilled enough with WSRSF to counter.

Endeavor is skilled enough to outmaneuver Shigaraki's sharp movements despite being slower than him. Endeavor was also able to defeat All For One, who has over a hundred years of experience.

Frankly, their fighting skills aren't impactful enough to make a difference. Perhaps Darkshine's habit of not dodging puts him at a slight disadvantage, but that’s all.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

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[Kaio1277999]

I’m honestly voting for Endeavor.

Besides being able to fly, he can attack from long distances with his HellFlame, while DarkShine is limited only to his melee attacks. DarkShine getting close would only make it easier for Endeavor to take him out, plus the LS here is totally in Endeavor's favor

Speaking of FlashFire, it's an Amp for both AP and Speed, and such an Amp is much greater than people think.

As the creator of the technique, Endeavor has a much greater materialization than his son Shoto, who was able to One-Shot Leviathan with a single FlashFire attack,
even though Leviathan did not suffer any damage from Shoto's casual flames earlier
and even receiving a FlashFreeze HeatWave at point-blank range, Leviathan was not stopped.

It's also worth remembering that FlashFreeze HeatWave has a higher AP than Shoto's normal attacks.

Endeavor still has Prominence Burn, which is even stronger than his normal FlashFire attacks, and he can become even stronger by surpassing his limits with Plus Ultra.

DarkShine not having regeneration or any resistance to high temperatures, and having this habit of not dodging enemy attacks, doesn't help.

 

[Therefir]

Vote counted.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Endeavor fra

 

[Arkenis]

What are Darkshine's win cons here?

 

[Arkansalter2]

What are Darkshine's win cons here?

He tanks his value but I don't see much here except his kinda passive attack deflection.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Endeavor FRA

 

[GodEarh206]

Fire Man FRA

 

[EnderLord8]

Child abuser fra

 

[Therefir]

Bump. 5 votes for the Flame Hero, 0 for the Pinnacle of Strength.

 

[Bruhtelho]

"a hero that you can be proud of, too. Proud that your father is the number one hero..." (Endeavor FRA)

 

[Therefir]

I'm also voting for Endeavor FRA, so that's grace.

 

[Epiccheev]

Blaziken's second strongest move FRA

 

[Therefir]

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