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Darth Vader vs Toji Fushiguro

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I usually like to do a character edition with that death battle thing, but I'm not even sure how fair this confrontation is, I just want to test Darth Vader.

Rules: Speed equalized, SBA

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XSOULOFCINDERX said:
Vader force crushes Toji's organs if just choking him doesn't work.
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In canon, Force Choke has not been shown to affect internal organs (and even if it did, in some unknown location, it is not accepted in profiles).

Both are Class M.
 
Phsccarvalho said:
In canon, Force Choke has not been shown to affect internal organs (and even if it did, in some unknown location, it is not accepted in profiles).

Both are Class M.
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How high is Toji's Class M? Depending on that he might have a chance if he doesn't try to saber clash with Vader.
 
I can't read the calc Vader scales to for shit since its old as ****. Please do me a favor and compare them for me and my simple non-mathing brain.
 
XSOULOFCINDERX said:
I can't read the calc Vader scales to for shit since its old as ****. Please do me a favor and compare them for me and my simple non-mathing brain.
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Dude, honestly, neither do I.

Like, we have those two things below. But the calculation he's directly using (the temple one) is really weird.

Like, it seems like the Naruto forum calculation doesn't even mention the LS being a Class M?
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I thought about pitting him against someone from jjk because they're both Class M.
 
Gonna repost what I said on Anakin vs Toji
A lot of people consider his skill as raw skill, but if I asked you to name some skill feats you'd find it difficult not to mention anything to do with his senses. The guy's skill is mostly sitting on his senses and the fact in his verse he can't be sensed by majority. Toji shows no skill in swordsmanship besides swinging a sword around. His assassin tactics are generally also derived from HR. You can't even name someone he fought where he showed skilled but rather knowledge based tactics. Meanwhile Anakin's loaded with intelligence feats, actually been trained in the use of a sword (lightsaber) for most his life and can be scaled to Jedi masters to a degree. Honestly, both have their fair share of skill scaling but Toji on paper doesn't do much otherwise. And Obi's a better Jedi but was very much struggling with Anakin and Anakin's arrogance is what got him cut in half rather than being less skilled.
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Just curious, is Vader not getting upgraded for crushing that skyscraper that was 7-C last I check.
 
I see, shame. Then when it comes to this match, Vader will absolutely try to break Toji’s neck and rag doll him, and with similar lifting strength that should throw him around. Especially since he will be pushed and pulled from completely random directions, which spawn on him, and thus have no way to properly brace.
 
Apparently Toji has a LS advantage of almost double (1.81x) but Vader can probably close that gap with amplifiers, added to the fact that I seem to remember that Vader scaled to 400 tons of TNT while Toji is around 100 tons. So I think Vader should take this if it's about AP/LS, and if it's about skill he already surpasses by far.
 
Keeweed said:
Okay I just checked Toji has two times lifting strength advantage. I would argue someone two times weaker than you could still overpower your neck, which normally won’t matter but does here because Vader’s choke is an intangible force that ignores distance.
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Even if TK isn't enough to crush Toji's neck, he's probably going to use him as a ragdoll most of the time.
 
Pyro9278 said:
Or Vader just drags him into his lightsaber.
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Toji is stronger so if he can fully brace that’ll definitely stop, but like it would help line him up for a stab or lightsaber throw since he’ll constantly need to deal with a sudden shove that can happen at any time.
 
Idk what SBA means but Toji wins by throwing his spear of heaven and Vaders Suit's breathing support and kills him, He has double the lifting strength as well.
 
Sammy818 said:
Wait why doesn’t Vader also have ftl reactions????
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This is canon Vader. I honestly argue that Canon SW has enough statements for FTL or at the bare minimum, Sub relativistic, but hey, I don't have time to calc nor its not my job

And yeah, 8-A Force users is outdated imo
 
TegamiBachi25 said:
This is canon Vader. I honestly argue that Canon SW has enough statements for FTL or at the bare minimum, Sub relativistic, but hey, I don't have time to calc nor its not my job

And yeah, 8-A Force users is outdated imo
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Blaster bolts been called lasers hundreds of times and even magnaguards have near light speed reflexes according to the novelization of the revenge of the sith, and anakin literally is tiers above them in terms of speed
 
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