DBZ Fusions vs EM Gods

[MasterWinduTheThird]

Sirius and Apollo Flame vs Vegito and Gogeta
2 of the strongest characters in their respective franchises (who were also recently nerfed to the extreme)

Scenario

Gogeta's time limit is removed

All combatants are in character.

This is to the death

It takes place in the Borg Cube from star trek


Round 1: Speed unequalized

Round 2: Same as round 1, but speed equalized

 

[Reppuzan]

Sirius and Apollo stomp round one due to the MASSIVE speed difference.

Sirius will still stomp if he gets his Black Hole. Otherwise he still has a utility advantage. Alternatively they could just planet bust and be done with it.

 

[Lejon123!]

Can vegeta and gogeta become ssgss

 

[Reppuzan]

As far as we know in canon, no.

 

[Lejon123!]

irius and Apollo Flame

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

Sirius and Apollo take this. Sirius could solo if he uses his black hole.

MMSF Team: 4

DBZ Team:0

 

[Denpahero]

I would say the EM gods

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Round 1: Steal mate, they will get rid of Vegito first before moving to Gogeta but they won't be able to harm him considering Gogeta is Multi-SS, but if Gogeta turns SSJ4 then he takes it.

Round 2: Fusions with ease.

 

[Reppuzan]

Not so fast. The EM Gods still have advantage of intangiblity and the ability to breathe in space. They could just bust the cube and be done with it.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Not so fast. The EM Gods still have advantage of intangiblity and the ability to breathe in space. They could just bust the cube and be done with it.

They are intangible because they are made of EM Waves, Energy attacks are more than likely to work, considering they are in character I don't they would start that way. Also Gogeta can survive in space.

 

[Reppuzan]

I mean, come on, Apollo Flame throws a freaking star as one of his attacks. Sirius blasts holes in Sagittarius A. It's kind of hard for them to not destroy the cube in the process.

Not to mention the fact that Apollo's flames will easily consume most of the oxygen in the cube.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Whats stopping Gogeta from purifying them with Stardust Breaker?. I already pointed out that Gogeta can survive in space.

 

[Reppuzan]

Stardust Breaker is a rush move and Soul Punisher is a non-piercing or explosive projectile. They'll have to smash through Sirius's and Apollo's Noise and Flame barriers to land it first. Considering the fact that you need a rapid fire weapon like the Mega Buster to tear through them Apollo Flame and Sirius have more than enough tim to launch even one attack.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Stardust Breaker is a rush move and Soul Punisher is a non-piercing or explosive projectile. They'll have to smash through Sirius's and Apollo's Noise and Flame barriers to land it first. Considering the fact that you need a rapid fire weapon like the Mega Buster to tear through them Apollo Flame and Sirius have more than enough tim to launch even one attack.

Considering they can rapidly shoot KI blast they will easily get trough it, also Soul Punisher is a projectile that ignores durability.

 

[Reppuzan]

Do you really thing they're just going to stand there as Ki Blasts are fired at them?

Apollo and Sirius can shoot their own attacks through their barriers but not the other way around.

Plus Sirius has the advantage of Remote Weaponry along with Apollo's ability to just burn the cube to a crisp along with the oxygen supply.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Do you really thing they're just going to stand there as Ki Blasts are fired at them?
Apollo and Sirius can shoot their own attacks through their barriers but not the other way around.

Plus Sirius has the advantage of Remote Weaponry along with Apollo's ability to just burn the cube to a crisp along with the oxygen supply.

That can be said the same, why should Gogeta and Vegito stand there and also let them hit them with those attacks?, Remote Weaponry is nothing when your enemy has more energy base attacks than you do, also I'm getting tired of explaining that Gogeta can survive in space thus he doesn't need oxygen.

 

[Reppuzan]

Sorry about that, my memory of GT is fuzzy at best. Still, if that's the case then Gogeta wins.

Still, it's rather annoying that the EM Gods have to be nerfed so hard to even make this a fair fight.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Sorry about that, my memory of GT is fuzzy at best. Still, if that's the case then Gogeta wins.
Still, it's rather annoying that the EM Gods have to be nerfed so hard to even make this a fair fight.

It's cool, besides your not wrong, there are 2 rounds and the first one is a stealmate since they can destroy the cube thus killing Vegito since he can't breath in space thus leaving Apollo and Sirius to fight Gogeta. But if you consider the fact that for Sirius and Apollo to be able to harm Gogeta they would need to have hax that bypasses durability or would need to be at least Solar System+ between the two since the gap between Solar System and Multi-Solar System is huge. I understand too that is annoying but Sirius and Apollo have the speed advantage and it would just be a steal mate in the end.

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

Sirius can remove the wills of others, can control noise to poison Gogeta, destroy the cube, and use his black hole to destroy them both.

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Sirius can remove the wills of others, can control noise to poison Gogeta, destroy the cube, and use his black hole to destroy them both.

1- Most likely wont work considering Gogeta has the advantage in everything but speed.

2- Immune to poisons.

3- Can escape black holes since they both FTL.

4- Gogeta can survive in space

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

And honestly, the black hole Sirius used worked just like a real black hole (sucking everything into nonexistence, being described by weaker beings as inescapable, and a few other things.), so the basis of "black holes in fiction don't work like in real life" seems rather out of place when Sirius' black hole worked precisely as a real black hole.

GT is not allowed btw, and how can they survive in space? You have not given a single example to prove that point (don't bring up Bardock, please)

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

Gogeta and Vegito are not immune to poisons.

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

It worked on characters vastly superior to them anyway like Goku

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

And honestly, the black hole Sirius used worked just like a real black hole (sucking everything into nonexistence, being described by weaker beings as inescapable, and a few other things.), so the basis of "black holes in fiction don't work like in real life" seems rather out of place when Sirius' black hole worked precisely as a real black hole.
GT is not allowed btw, and how can they survive in space? You have not given a single example to prove that point (don't bring up Bardock, please)

1- You need to be FTL to escape a black hole.

2- Vegeta is able to go from one planet to another, the reason Gogeta can survive in space is because the movies doesn't follow canon and in non-canon material Saiyans are able to survive in space, like Broly and his father being in space and Goku traveling to New Planet Vegeta while moving trough space.

3- Goku as a child drank the strongest poison on Earth (stated by Korrin) and didn't die, considering they both have part of Goku they both should be immune to it as well.

Also don't use DBS this is about DBZ and the movies, in DBS it was never implied that Goku was poisoned.

 

[Denpahero]

The EM god since they are made of electomagnetic waves and are naturally intangible to attacks that are non-em based attacks ( but in saying that not sure hoe ki attacks would work on them) so physical attacks would not work on them unless they changed their frequency ( dont see why they would) they unlike the fusion duo dont actually need to any way from there intangible state they may not be able to punch and kick them but can still harm them since they are made of EM waves they can basically be like an X-ray machine of a microwave and attack them like that ( and i know th games does not say they Explicitly That they use things like X-rays and what not but it is a logical to assume they can or at least do an attack simular to it) since X-rays use ionizing radiation that means it damages well formed and healthy cells and tissues they can not only pass through them geting around the durability factor( for more info check here. http://www.livestrong.com/article/213515-radiation-effects-on-tissue/) Beyond that they both hold the speed advantage being labeled as massively ftl+

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

interesting. so Apollo and Sirius win by atrition basically?

 

[Denpahero]

I can agree to that

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

Also, Gogeta was nerfed to 4B

 

[The_great_ZZ]

This will help with speed

This is for striking strength

Edit: Links are for DBZ

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

Still doesn't change the fact that they are utterly outclassed (Planet level striking strength vs Solar System Level+ Striking strength, and 2.6 Billion C vs Barely 1C)

 

[CaptainFalcon64]

Still doesn't change the fact that they are utterly outclassed (Planet level striking strength vs Solar System Level+ Striking strength, and 2.6 Billion C vs Barely 1C)

I can already see your downplaying, stop.

 

[Sirius_The_EM_Troll]

OK

 

[Denpahero]

Again i dont how the ki attacks would work but physically they should not be able to touch the em gods because they are made of electomagnetic waves

 

[BakiHanma18]

They are intangible because they are made of EM Waves, Energy attacks are more than likely to work, considering they are in character I don't they would start that way. Also Gogeta can survive in space.

This I why they can touch them