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I like DCAU show Superman, but most of the time I just find other characters with similar moral centers more engaging. Like Spiderman or Optimus PrimeAlthough Fr Superman when done extremely well is a W character
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I like DCAU show Superman, but most of the time I just find other characters with similar moral centers more engaging. Like Spiderman or Optimus PrimeAlthough Fr Superman when done extremely well is a W character
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I think when it comes to Superman, I think he's at his most engaging in the DCAU. Mainly because it gives him a legitimately balanced character. Clark is a good guy, nice, thoughtful and alway there to fight the good fight. But he's still person. He's fallible. The guy doesn't hate or get angry that often but when he does...HOO BOY. His enmity with Darkseid and Luthor really shows in the DCAU and I love that. You can't have enemies like that and who pull stunts on that magnitude and not develop some searing animosity towards them.I like DCAU show Superman, but most of the time I just find other characters with similar moral centers more engaging. Like Spiderman or Optimus Prime
Personally I'd argue that Superman from Superman/Batman: Public Enemies is one of the most engaging versions of Superman outside the comics, not just because it keeps his ability to be nice yet also able to get angry...but the bromance between Clark and Bruce is just, wow, it goes to show why so many people hate it when DC tries to make them fight when they'll always be best friends.I think when it comes to Superman, I think he's at his most engaging in the DCAU. Mainly because it gives him a legitimately balanced character. Clark is a good guy, nice, thoughtful and alway there to fight the good fight. But he's still person. He's fallible. The guy doesn't hate or get angry that often but when he does...HOO BOY. His enmity with Darkseid and Luthor really shows in the DCAU and I love that. You can't have enemies like that and who pull stunts on that magnitude and not develop some searing animosity towards them.
Superman vs The Elite is definitely my favorite Superman movie
I've already said this a while ago in another thread, but Supes vs the Elite (or the comic equivalent) is a much better example as to why heroes shouldn't kill compared to Batman's speech in Under the Red Hood. When a hero starts to go off the rails, people are afraid, ND at that point why would they be a hero?Superman vs The Elite is definitely my favorite Superman movie
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I think they will, but they won't just outright say it.They aren't using No Limits Man though
I feel like the whole "Superman is the strongest hero who always wins" idea that shows like Death Battle have parroted for years have kinda done a disservice to Clark as a character. Like everyone sees him as a boring guy who never looses and struggles despite that being far from the case.Although Fr Superman when done extremely well is a W character
Doesn't Seiya have 5-D shit in it or something? Because don't quote me on this one, but I vaguely remember there were some arguments that were made where someone scaled the gods to 5-D and Pegasus Seiya scales to it in his God Cloth or something like that.Tbh pretty sure DBH Goku is strong than Peak Seiya.
I always took Batman speech in Under the Red Hood as talking more about himself than heroes in general. That HE would never come back from that. That HE wouldn't know where the line is anymore and he wouldn't know how to stop. It's acknowledgment that he doesn't have the capability to walk the fine line or come back from that.I've already said this a while ago in another thread, but Supes vs the Elite (or the comic equivalent) is a much better example as to why heroes shouldn't kill compared to Batman's speech in Under the Red Hood. When a hero starts to go off the rails, people are afraid, ND at that point why would they be a hero?
Heroes characters can destroy an infinite amount 5-D structures (on this wiki).Doesn't Seiya have 5-D shit in it or something? Because don't quote me on this one, but I vaguely remember there were some arguments that were made where someone scaled the gods to 5-D and Pegasus Seiya scales to it in his God Cloth or something like that.
Of course Seiya's biggest issue is getting DBH Goku's almost like smurf hax in potency and versatility, but I figured Seiya was as strong AP wise though I could just be wrong on that part.
ProbablyTbh pretty sure DBH Goku is strong than Peak Seiya.
Yeah but it's hard to see that when a lot of batman media that's spread around has Bruce forcing his moral code onto othersI always took Batman speech in Under the Red Hood as talking more about himself than heroes in general. That HE would never come back from that. That HE wouldn't know where the line is anymore and he wouldn't know how to stop. It's acknowledgment that he doesn't have the capability to walk the fine line or come back from that.
Great analysis!Plus, the difference between what Batman is up against and what Superman is, are their archenemies. Joker and Luthor represent philosophical debates to what Batman and Superman truly represent. For Batman, his stance is that we have to act outside of social norms because the world isn't perfect but that doesn't mean that those norms are unimportant. Joker says that the fact that random injustice happens, means that there is no justice. That you can destroy innocence, means that there is no innocence. Hence, your life is a joke. So when Joker commits his crimes, he's constantly escalating because he's trying to push Batman in to compromising his codes, his morals and thus, proving Joker right. The fact that Batman acknowledges that if he kills, he turns into the same as the criminals he stops and punishes.
With Superman, Luthor represents the opposite of what Superman is. Superman and Lex represent the two measuring sticks society looks at in people. Superman presents the inner strength that society says we should have. Lex represents the outer strength that society says you could have. He's a powerful businessman and one of the most intelligent people on the planet. He's seen and done more than most ever will. But, this has come at the cost of Lex's soul. He is more monster than man. He will exploit anyone and anything to get what he wants, which is everything. Lex pushes others down to raise himself up, even though he doesn't actually need to. But he enjoys that. He enjoys toying with people. Lex represents the greedy, self-serving nature of people that Superman fights against. Even if Superman killed Lex, that wouldn't change anything because Superman's true enemy is the corruption that Lex simply represents. Someone else would rise to take over what Lex started. Superman wants to inspire people so that, together, we can all achieve the things Lex has but without sacrificing each other and what makes us people.
At least, that's how I've always looked at things.
I wish I had that much literacy.Plus, the difference between what Batman is up against and what Superman is, are their archenemies. Joker and Luthor represent philosophical debates to what Batman and Superman truly represent. For Batman, his stance is that we have to act outside of social norms because the world isn't perfect but that doesn't mean that those norms are unimportant. Joker says that the fact that random injustice happens, means that there is no justice. That you can destroy innocence, means that there is no innocence. Hence, your life is a joke. So when Joker commits his crimes, he's constantly escalating because he's trying to push Batman in to compromising his codes, his morals and thus, proving Joker right. The fact that Batman acknowledges that if he kills, he turns into the same as the criminals he stops and punishes.
With Superman, Luthor represents the opposite of what Superman is. Superman and Lex represent the two measuring sticks society looks at in people. Superman presents the inner strength that society says we should have. Lex represents the outer strength that society says you could have. He's a powerful businessman and one of the most intelligent people on the planet. He's seen and done more than most ever will. But, this has come at the cost of Lex's soul. He is more monster than man. He will exploit anyone and anything to get what he wants, which is everything. Lex pushes others down to raise himself up, even though he doesn't actually need to. But he enjoys that. He enjoys toying with people. Lex represents the greedy, self-serving nature of people that Superman fights against. Even if Superman killed Lex, that wouldn't change anything because Superman's true enemy is the corruption that Lex simply represents. Someone else would rise to take over what Lex started. Superman wants to inspire people so that, together, we can all achieve the things Lex has but without sacrificing each other and what makes us people.
At least, that's how I've always looked at things.
While I don't particularly find his struggles engaging due to how awful and inconsistent his power is, the idea that he doesn't struggle is ******* dumb. No Superman could never understand the dedication Goku has to bettering himself as a warrior, but he still has a struggle, it's just about inspiring justice and good will rather than the comparatively selfish Goku.I feel like the whole "Superman is the strongest hero who always wins" idea that shows like Death Battle have parroted for years have kinda done a disservice to Clark as a character. Like everyone sees him as a boring guy who never looses and struggles despite that being far from the case.
Pink kryptonite has two different affects, 1 genderbends... the other well....Superman when Goku pulls out Pink Kryptonite and $20:
Both work in this situationPink kryptonite has two different affects, 1 genderbends... the other well....
A W in my bookSuperman when Goku pulls out Pink Kryptonite and $20:
Wdym here? If you're talking using VSBW stats
1. Superman is getting upgraded to 2-C
2. DB absolutely does not use VBSW scaling.
Doesn't stop guys like this from claiming they do, anyway, and that DB will end up giving Goku a pity W. Guy is legit one step below Seth-tier in terms of obnoxiousness.
I never said his opinion did matter.(he's also hardly the only one with this sentiment, as his comment section and others prove) All I'm saying is that there's plenty of folks out there like this idiot, who think this sort of thing, despite all the evidence staring them in the face.I mean, I feel a random YouTuber's opinion doesn't matter. Anyone who watches DB and anyone who's been on VSBW should clearly know that both of their scalings do not align often.
Ic. I guess you can't change everyone's mind.I never said his opinion did matter.(he's also hardly the only one with this sentiment, as his comment section and others prove) All I'm saying is that there's plenty of folks out there like this idiot, who think this sort of thing, despite all the evidence staring them in the face.
I personally don't hold those beliefs,AT ALL. I was merely speculating the slim possibility of controversy bait. Simmer down.I never said his opinion did matter.(he's also hardly the only one with this sentiment, as his comment section and others prove) All I'm saying is that there's plenty of folks out there like this idiot, who think this sort of thing, despite all the evidence staring them in the face.
???I personally don't hold those beliefs,AT ALL. I was merely speculating the slim possibility of controversy bait. Simmer down.
Written in a period of time where Lois entered a race changing machine and Wonder Woman still had BDSM tendencies, colourful times indeed...Pink kryptonite has two different affects, 1 genderbends... the other well....
Bondage and piercing.Whoever gave WW a bondage weakness, I don't at all condone it, but on some small level I do understand.
Piercing damage is quite consistent tbhBondage and piercing.