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Nothing above 8-C
Slade Has Prior knowledege on all of them
Speed is equal for all
Fight takes place in a highschool
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I feel the Ten Shadows would cause a lot of difficulty, no? I mean you got Nue who can induce paralysis, a massive snake, two dogs, frogs that can snag things, etc.Deathstroke wipes the floor with these kids. He has prior knowledge and tons more experience, and his opponents are a bunch of teenagers who are new to fighting. None of them have any combat experience and aside from maybe some of Megumis shikigami being a bit of a nuisance, none of their cursed techniques will do much.
Speed is equal for all
He can't interact with them or perceive them. Not normally anyway. Just a minor nitpick.Even if he can't **** with the shikigami, if he knows it's a thing and what it can do, he can almost certainly account for what it's most likely doing and trying to do at any given time out of all possibilities and play around it. .
I'm aware, it's why I said him having prior knowledge is dangerous. He doesn't need to see them to just galaxy brain fifty moves ahead to know what they're going to do and play around it.He can't interact with them or perceive them. Not normally anyway. Just a minor nitpick.
You're underestimating just how insane Deathstroke's intel is, in fact, his intelligence section actually points it out what I'm arguing.Deathstrokes big issue is that he can't do anything to stop the Shikigami though. They're not only invisible, but cursed energy also means they're invunerable to anything Deathstroke might throw at them. His skill and genius only helps be a threat to the trio, but it doesn't do anything to handle the skikgami. And even with prep he has no way to actually stop them.
Comic skill feats are cracked, so I trust you on this. But could you give me instances of them evading people they don't even know is there? Well, he knows Fushiguro can use them, but he won't know when Fushiguro has summoned them or not. You get what I mean, I'm sure.I'm aware, it's why I said him having prior knowledge is dangerous. He doesn't need to see them to just galaxy brain fifty moves ahead to know what they're going to do and play around it.
I know he's cracked out of his mind in terms of intelligence, his problem is that he doesn't have any good methods to actually stop the issue of Shikigami. He lacks any prep time so anything he'd bring to the fight would just be his normal stuff and his normal stuff can't really handle the Shikigami. No amount of intelligence and skill will compensate for him being unable to stop the Shikigami. Even if he just focuses down Megumi, unless he can instantly incapacitate his hands the Shikigami come out and are immideately in play. And starting distance and starting moves for all the combatants does not give him a good enough opening to take out Megumi's hands.I'm aware, it's why I said him having prior knowledge is dangerous. He doesn't need to see them to just galaxy brain fifty moves ahead to know what they're going to do and play around it.
You're underestimating just how insane Deathstroke's intel is, in fact, his intelligence section actually points it out what I'm arguing.
"He has been compared to Batman in terms of tactical methods. Even against metahumans, he has proven more than a match for them all at once with time to prepare. Roy Harper once claimed the Slade was, "The world's greatest tactician." Using his superior problem-solving skills, Deathstroke can work out a battle ahead of time for many possibilities and predict enemy movements and tactics after the battle has engaged by recalling and utilizing memorized mannerisms acquired through past experience on a moment's notice."
He's also comparable to Batman, who's done everything I've mentioned against people far more combat-savvy than these 3.
As long as he has intel on his foes, which he does due to prior knowledge, he can work around this given he just needs to be rid of the main 3 fighters to win, something he has the tools for, he doesn't even need to directly engage, he can just lure them into traps, split them up, pick them off slowly, and so on. He should by all accounts be able to manipulate the way the battle plays out to his favor.
and with prep he absolutely could counter them, hell he'd probably just steal some government or Batman tech
Martians can't stealth Batman despite all the fucky martian abilitiesComic skill feats are cracked, so I trust you on this. But could you give me instances of them evading people they don't even know is there? Well, he knows Fushiguro can use them, but he won't know when Fushiguro has summoned them or not. You get what I mean, I'm sure.
Kill or incapacitate him before that can happen?Another question is; would he have a way to get around Sukuna possibly coming out?
What's stopping him from using his absolutely ludicrous stealth to slip away mid-fight, set up traps, lure them apart, and take them one by one before they can react or cripple them prior to engaging? I mentioned this before, but Slade doesn't need to engage them immediately, and starting distance ain't helping, we're talking about dudes who can slip away via stealth from Superman level dudes even with the dozens of layers of enhanced senses they have.I know he's cracked out of his mind in terms of intelligence, his problem is that he doesn't have any good methods to actually stop the issue of Shikigami. He lacks any prep time so anything he'd bring to the fight would just be his normal stuff and his normal stuff can't really handle the Shikigami. No amount of intelligence and skill will compensate for him being unable to stop the Shikigami. Even if he just focuses down Megumi, unless he can instantly incapacitate his hands the Shikigami come out and are immideately in play. And starting distance and starting moves for all the combatants does not give him a good enough opening to take out Megumi's hands.
To be fair, in the link, Batman seems to be wearing a device that alerts him of his proximity being breached. I dunno if Deathstroke has that, but even if he does, would it even pick up on Cursed Spirits?Martians can't stealth Batman despite all the fucky martian abilities
I mean there's other more topical feats, but like, that's all that's saved in the sandbox atm
And not quite, this is what I mean, he doesn't need to see them, he just needs to be able to predict and calculate when and where they'd be used, come out, and what they're doing. That's well within Slade's ability given Batman level dudes can predict a whole fight ou before it even happens.
Seems fair. But I was referring to if Sukuna did come out. Or does Sukuna coming out end up with a loss for Deathstroke?Kill or incapacitate him before that can happen?
Yeah, but he doesn't know from where. Batman has more feats though.To be fair, in the link, Batman seems to be wearing a device that alerts him of his proximity being breached.
What's stopping him from using his absolutely ludicrous stealth to slip away mid-fight, set up traps, lure them apart, and take them one by one before they can react or cripple them prior to engaging? I mentioned this before, but Slade doesn't need to engage them immediately, and starting distance ain't helping, we're talking about dudes who can slip away via stealth from Superman level dudes even with the dozens of layers of enhanced senses they have.
I mean, he is an assassin, rolling up and throwing hands ain't exactly what he does everytime, especially if he knows that won't work.
I feel like he would. He gets a notif that someone is within his proximity, and no one is in front of him, or within his peripherals. So it seems obvious to assume they'd be behind him over anywhere else.Yeah, but he doesn't know from where. Batman has more feats though.
I'd say he shouldTo be fair, in the link, Batman seems to be wearing a device that alerts him of his proximity being breached. I dunno if Deathstroke has that, but even if he does, would it even pick up on Cursed Spirits?
I'd assume it'd be like contract info or like profile info?I guess, but how deep is his knowledge on the Ten Shadow's? He gets some knowledge, but does he get every single detail to such an extent he could stop himself from getting jumped by like 5 different invisible enemies simultaneously?
Pretty sure at that point he can't do much without prep. Like for all his guns, bombs, mines, gas grenades and more, etc.Seems fair. But I was referring to if Sukuna did come out. Or does Sukuna coming out end up with a loss for Deathstroke?
The Shikigami do nothing, they can't stop him from slipping away, not withstanding he'd have the whole fight planned out to begin with so he'd know what they'd try to do and workaround it.The Shikigami are what stop him. He can't hide himself from the Shikigami Chariot.
And? Slade can outlast him if it comes down to it easily.Not engaging them immideately puts him at a disadvantage because that gives Megumi, who knows he's fighting someone, plenty of time to summon his divine dogs who can track Slade down.
Bruh, if Superman can't pick up on these types of dudes, nothing in JJK is gonna.Or someone like Nue who can get a good ariel perspective.
Yes he can? If he knows what they can do, their capabilities, and so on, he'd probably have every possible option they'd even be capable of taking planned out, calculated the likelihood of each based on the current situation, and account for it.Slade literally can't accomdate for the shikigami once they're on the battlefield.
Or not do that because he has better options.So his best bet is trying to take Megumi down as soon as the fight starts.
Half his arsenal is capable of blowing holes through himself, I wouldn't be so sure.But he doesn't have the AP in order to do so effectively so no matter what, he has to deal with the Shikigami.
He doesn't need to deal with them, he just needs to kill Megumi, which is as easy as laying a bunch of layered traps, picking him off with his fucktillion guns from kilometers away after bro sets off a trap that releases tear or nerve gas, while trying to avoid these 4 other traps that were set up and by doing so proced this OTHER trap.And he lacks any means to deal with the Divine Dogs or Nue or Snake. Or if this is the goodwill event, Nue, Rabbit Escape, Max Elephant, or the Toad.
They are invisible and intangible.and no one is in front of him
Did he know the people sneaking up on him were invisible? If so, I'd agree. But if he thought it was a visible person sneaking up on him, and they just happened to be people who can be invisible, I'd stand by what I said.They are invisible and intangible.
Yeah, they were martians, Batman knows about their ability.Did he know the people sneaking up on him were invisible?
Okay, so how does he stop them from noticing him? You say he can make a plan, but since he doesn't have cursed energy and he has no prep time, all he has to rely on is his standard equipment. And none of that can impede the Shikigami, which he of course can't sense because he can't detect cursed energy.The Shikigami do nothing, they can't stop him from slipping away, not withstanding he'd have the whole fight planned out to begin with so he'd know what they'd try to do and workaround it.
How are they not finding him? Both groups know where each other start and he also lacks any means to hide his scent in this battle since that's not a part of his standard equipment either.And? Slade can outlast him if it comes down to it easily.
Dogs are not finding Slade, especially given Slade lacks CE, aka the only thing he wouldn't be able to cover up.
Edit: Actually thinking on it, I'm Batman himself has dog-level scent feats and Slade do be sneaky even with him
You can list a random time where he escapes Superman, but unless you're gonna give an explanation for how he could escape someone with all of the super-senses it sounds llke an anti-feat for superman cause you're not giving any method for how he did so. SImply saying "he escaped superman, there's no way these guys could find him" ignores how comics often have stupid things happen which makes no sense, hence why we're so strict with their tiering and scaling here. Unless you can give a way no-prep Deathstroke can do so. It's meanginglessBruh, if Superman can't pick up on these types of dudes, nothing in JJK is gonna.
Slade and Batman, unironically, probably have some of the best stealth and vanishing feats in the whole of fiction. Unless they want to be found, they are not being found.
And unless Deathstroke can suddenly give himself powers he never possessed before or create gear that allows him to solve the problems poised by cursed energy, he is still unprepared to actually do anything about the shikigami that isn't trying to take Megumi down first. They are invisible and invulnerable to anything he can toss at them, so he can't, unless his profile is hiding away invulnerability negation or extrasensory senses.Yes he can? If he knows what they can do, their capabilities, and so on, he'd probably have every possible option they'd even be capable of taking planned out, calculated the likelihood of each based on the current situation, and account for it.
Looking at his profiles scaling, he's baseline 8-C while everyone else is at .4 tons, so they scale higher.Or not do that because he has better options.
Half his arsenal is capable of blowing holes through himself, I wouldn't be so sure.
He only starts a few hundred meters away at most, and no matter what his standard equipment is none of it will be tough enough to one-shot Megumi. Not to mention, that Megumi will fight at a range so he doesn't have to get close to Deathstroke while Itadori (the toughest of all three of them) can afford to be on the front lines and drawing fire. Not to mention, almost all of what you're describing relies on him having prep time, something he does not have in this fight. At most he'll have some pistols, a rifle, some bombs, his staff and a sword. None of which, he'll be able to use to target megumi before his shikigami are on the field and allowing him to hang back and strategize on his own.He doesn't need to deal with them, he just needs to kill Megumi, which is as easy as laying a bunch of layered traps, picking him off with his fucktillion guns from kilometers away after bro sets off a trap that releases tear or nerve gas, while trying to avoid these 4 other traps that were set up and by doing so proced this OTHER trap.
The issue is he lacks anything which helps handle the problem they pose that doesn't put him in a fight where they can easily appear to take him on.The only issue is the funny invisible lads, which as said, are we really pretending a dude who's as smart as Batman and constantly ***** with far more difficult-to-fight enemies in groups, isn't going to consider that and just play it out differently than throwing hands?
How does that stop Superman, MM, Batman, Deadman, wizards, and more from noticing him? He just can.Okay, so how does he stop them from noticing him? You say he can make a plan, but since he doesn't have cursed energy and he has no prep time, all he has to rely on is his standard equipment. And none of that can impede the Shikigami, which he of course can't sense because he can't detect cursed energy.
Random? My brother in christ it's constant. if I actually dug we'd be looking at probably a good hundred.You can list a random time where he escapes Superman,
Sorry but I have to disagree, it's called Stealth Mastery, they just have so good stealth that they can, that's all that matters. If you need reasoning they have stuff that would enable it, like they can be superhumanly quiet, control their body temperature, control their heartbeat and breathing, cover any scent or tracks, random subliminal posing bullshit that makes registering their form difficult, whatever, it's literally everything, they don't need to explain it everytime, or at all, it happens.but unless you're gonna give an explanation for how he could escape someone with all of the super-senses it sounds llke an anti-feat for superman cause you're not giving any method for how he did so. SImply saying "he escaped superman, there's no way these guys could find him" ignores how comics often have stupid things happen which makes no sense, hence why we're so strict with their tiering and scaling here. Unless you can give a way no-prep Deathstroke can do so. It's meaningless
Ignoring the fact his profile actually probably is hiding away both of those, especially the latter due to some interdimensional metal fuckery cooked into some of his equipment, again, he doesn't need to.And unless Deathstroke can suddenly give himself powers he never possessed before or create gear that allows him to solve the problems poised by cursed energy, he is still unprepared to actually do anything about the shikigami that isn't trying to take Megumi down first. They are invisible and invulnerable to anything he can toss at them, so he can't, unless his profile is hiding away invulnerability negation or extrasensory senses.
Yeah, he is only 8-C, I said equipment did I not? Piercing damage, concussive stuff, etc. He can still be 8-C and have his guns blow holes through him or have his sword be sharp enough to cut his own limbs off or people way above his pay grade. That's, usually how it goes for dudes who have weapons like that tbh, part of why weapons are functional to begin with.Looking at his profiles scaling, he's baseline 8-C while everyone else is at .4 tons, so they scale higher.
Bro... I was arguing based on him starting within like 10m and direct line of sight...He only starts a few hundred meters away at most,
and no matter what his standard equipment is none of it will be tough enough to one-shot Megumi.
So? They won't even know where he is, fight him how?Not to mention, that Megumi will fight at a range so he doesn't have to get close to Deathstroke while Itadori (the toughest of all three of them) can afford to be on the front lines and drawing fire.
No really, slipping away is free. The rest is stuff he often has on him.Not to mention, almost all of what you're describing relies on him having prep time,
He actually has gas grenades and stuff too. Power Dampener, a jetpack apparently, etc.something he does not have in this fight. At most he'll have some pistols, a rifle, some bombs, his staff and a sword.
Unironically can slip away in the time it takes them to blink. He absolutely can **** off before they're on the field, and once he's gone, I fear it doesn't matter if they're on the field.None of which, he'll be able to use to target megumi before his shikigami are on the field and allowing him to hang back and strategize on his own.
Except, you know, pissing off abilities far beyond anything in JJK.The issue is he lacks anything which helps handle the problem they pose that doesn't put him in a fight where they can easily appear to take him on.
Excuse me? I made shit up? That's why his Intel section actually makes mention of his cracked predictive skills, or why Batman's profile actually makes mention and accepts these insane vanishing feats. Did I make up the fact he has guns, a sword, and gas grenades too now?You've made up all this stuff which Deathstroke can't really take advantage of in this fight because of how its set up.
Nice that you bring that all up, but those are batman feats, not deathstroke feats. And Deathstroke doesn't scale off of batman's stealth, unless someone on his profile he has hiding out an explanation like (confirmed stealthier than batman) so it doesn't even matter in the context to this debate.How does that stop Superman, MM, Batman, Deadman, wizards, and more from noticing him? He just can.
Also, I never said he'd make a plan, he doesn't need to. The fight ain't exactly hard, just avoid the invisible dudes, pick off the characters he can actually kill or slowly cripple them or incap them to where he can kill them.
And from there, they don't matter, they're useless, and they'll never find him, he has all the time in the world to set his little traps, get them where he wants them, and just off them.
Random? My brother in christ it's constant. if I actually dug we'd be looking at probably a good hundred.
Sorry but I have to disagree, it's called Stealth Mastery, they just have so good stealth that they can, that's all that matters. If you need reasoning they have stuff that would enable it, like they can be superhumanly quiet, control their body temperature, control their heartbeat and breathing, cover any scent or tracks, random subliminal posing bullshit that makes registering their form difficult, whatever, it's literally everything, they don't need to explain it everytime, or at all, it happens.
But even if it wasn't, we accept those feats no less, it's applicable.
Hell, straight from PC Batman's profile.
"Stealth Mastery (Regularly disappears on members of the league, even those with senses as powerful as Superman. Can disappear even when people are looking at him. Can disguise himself as people of different ethnicities or age ranges, regularly bypasses Oracle’s security, which uses air pressure change detection and state of the art systems. Superman can't see his actions),".
Deathstroke does not have ludicrious stealth accepted however. Even more past that, all we have accepted for him is a respect thread that has him getting roughed up by beast boy till he shoots him and getting sensed by dick grayson (who is far below superman in enhanced senses). Sure there's some stuff that has him looking like a monster, but he also still has anti-feats so just overloading the page with "he's so smart and so stealthy there's no way they could beat him" doesn't work cause Deathstroke isn't always operating at the level you're making him out to. If Dick Grasyon can hear Deathstroke sneak up behind him, then I think cursed spirit dogs specialized in tracking can smell him especially since he'd start the fight in everyone's sights.It doesn't matter if it's stupid, most fiction is absolutely insane and makes no sense, the type of shit you're talking about is insane outliers like Spiderman punching out Galactus, not "Bro has super good stealth, he can vanish from metahumans all the time".
These dudes can humiliate people that humiliate whatever JJK is packing for senses, Nobody in this match is finding Slade unless he wants to be found. But yeah, Batman goons having ludicrous stealth is an accepted thing on this wiki, you can't shoot it down for "being stupid".
Cool, so nerve gas doesn't affect Shikigami. Nor does it effect Yuji, the two groups of people that he'd have to worry about even if he incapacitiated Megumi and Nobara, and one of those is still undetectable and invulnerable to anything he can throw at them. So he still has to deal with the Shikigami. And he doesn't start 4km aways just a few hundred meters, everyone knows where he's at, and they're all fast enough to get to him before he has any time to set up any of these traps or stuff you're saying he'd somehow set up. Traps and things like that are only for prep time, something Deathstroke doesn't start with and wouldn't be given much chance in this fight to take advantage of since the only person who'd hang back naturally is Megumi cause he can have the dogs lead.Ignoring the fact his profile actually probably is hiding away both of those, especially the latter due to some interdimensional metal fuckery cooked into some of his equipment, again, he doesn't need to.
You keep forcing a situation where Slade has to fight these things so he loses, but he doesn't.
He can **** off, and nobody in JJK has good enough enhanced senses to trace him, and then just take out his foes one by one in whatever way he pleases, it could be as easy as tripping up a gas and explosive mine, calculating where they'll go, and then just having it be in a place where they'd eventually proc it, or any other sort of bullshit. Like what are they gonna do when they're hit by some nerve gas, can't move and then he snipes them from 4km away?
Cursed energy stop those. Something everyone but Yuji hear can use pretty well, and Yuji is just durable enough to eat those because he's nearly two times stronger than Deathstroke is. And since Deathstroke isn't noted to have higher AP with his guns, we have no reason to act like he's able to one-shot these characters. And of course, you keep ignoring the fact that he still has to fight with the Shikigami who will protect Megumi when he's in danger since Deathstroke can't detect them, he has no way to fend them off if he doesn't one-shot Megumi which he can't.Yeah, he is only 8-C, I said equipment did I not? Piercing damage, concussive stuff, etc. He can still be 8-C and have his guns blow holes through him or have his sword be sharp enough to cut his own limbs off or people way above his pay grade. That's, usually how it goes for dudes who have weapons like that tbh, part of why weapons are functional to begin with.
Bro... I was arguing based on him starting within like 10m and direct line of sight...
At hundred meters he will never even be seen to start with given these dudes can appear nigh invisible in dim light from feet away.
Actually, I think the Prometheum Sword has feats of cutting tier 4 and 6's due to funny slashing stuff and properties.
Bullets my brother, nothing stopping a bit of knockout gas and a high cal piercing round to the head.
But he does? Surely you aren't trying to insinuate Slade of all people isn't a stealth god rivaling the big boys? He could be 1/100th as stealthy, and it'd be enough for this match.Nice that you bring that all up, but those are batman feats, not deathstroke feats. And Deathstroke doesn't scale off of batman's stealth, unless someone on his profile he has hiding out an explanation like (confirmed stealthier than batman) so it doesn't even matter in the context to this debate.
No offense, but given this is your 3rd attempt to discredit arguments based on simply saying they can't, this just comes off as arguing in bad faith and grasping at every possible way to dismiss it.Deathstroke does not have ludicrious stealth accepted however.
Even more past that, all we have accepted for him is a respect thread that has him getting roughed up by beast boy till he shoots him and getting sensed by dick grayson (who is far below superman in enhanced senses).
I guess we should use 10-C, Below Human Speed Deathstroke because he has some anti-feats that contradict his established workings and the narrative and placement of him in DC's hierarchy?Sure there's some stuff that has him looking like a monster, but he also still has anti-feats so just overloading the page with "he's so smart and so stealthy there's no way they could beat him"
Nah, it just so happens to be what he's consistently at. I could use his high-end shit where he's scaling to Superman or Wonder Woman instead if it'd please you. I am taking common hype for him and running with that instead of ultra high-end, or ultra-low-ends, and feats that align with his accepted monikers on the wiki, that's beyond reasonable.doesn't work cause Deathstroke isn't always operating at the level you're making him out to.
Dick unironically > Dogs.If Dick Grasyon can hear Deathstroke sneak up behind him, then I think cursed spirit dogs specialized in tracking can smell him especially since he'd start the fight in everyone's sights.
Never said it did, don't strawman, but, it most certainly does affect 2/3rds of his foes, including the actual problematic one.Cool, so nerve gas doesn't affect Shikigami.
I mentioned knock-out gas in previous posts did I not? He also has AOE concussive disorienting grenades too, one of those, and all 3 would be stunned, or might even be incapacitated from that alone as it prevents focusing too. For example, the Atom couldn't actually focus enough to use his powers to shrink.Nor does it effect Yuji, the two groups of people that he'd have to worry about even if he incapacitiated Megumi and Nobara,
Lad, Slade could literally just outlast everyone here til they're too tired to even move, his stamina is arguably the best of any DC street level by design. I could legitimately argue Slade just plays keep away, especially at this starting distance for a solid week till his foes can't keep up, and then just put some high-caliber rounds through them.and one of those is still undetectable and invulnerable to anything he can throw at them.
Except he doesn't.So he still has to deal with the Shikigami.
The fact he starts that far away already means they lost brother, hundreds of meters, against the DC world's most dangerous assassin.And he doesn't start 4km aways just a few hundred meters, everyone knows where he's at, and they're all fast enough to get to him before he has any time to set up any of these traps or stuff you're saying he'd somehow set up.
That's blatantly just not true, he can do it in the middle of the match, he just can't have that set up prior. This is tantamount to arguing someone like Joseph joestar can't set up a trap mid-match.Traps and things like that are only for prep time,
Even if you discredit his stealth, this IS Deathstroke, he can lay traps under the guise of just missing his attacks or something. As one of the greatest marksmen in DC, throwing bombs, and having them ricochet to inane degrees so they land exactly where he'd need them in the future is child's play, among any other countless ways he can go about doing it. Though mentioning that, assuming Slade has his power dampeners here (Don't see why they wouldn't, they're below 8-C) he by all accounts should be capable of landing them with ease from a distance to his marksmenship, and you yourself have already admitted Slade utterly eclipses them in skill, so I see no reason why or how they'd even dodge.something Deathstroke doesn't start with and wouldn't be given much chance in this fight to take advantage of since the only person who'd hang back naturally is Megumi cause he can have the dogs lead.
Since when did Curse Energy stop a sword that can bisect characters that eclipse any stat in JJK?Cursed energy stop those.
The sword can slice things above his paygrade. Or bullets.Something everyone but Yuji hear can use pretty well, and Yuji is just durable enough to eat those because he's nearly two times stronger than Deathstroke is.
Dude, it's a gun and a magic sword.And since Deathstroke isn't noted to have higher AP with his guns, we have no reason to act like he's able to one-shot these characters.
I can already tell this is going to devolve into me and you going back and forth for like a week given you're actively ignoring every claim and enforcing that Slade absolutely must engage.And of course, you keep ignoring the fact that he still has to fight with the Shikigami who will protect Megumi when he's in danger since Deathstroke can't detect them, he has no way to fend them off if he doesn't one-shot Megumi which he can't.
You really shouldn't make claims like "this 50+ year old comic book character doesnt have a feat of doing this thing" without knowing for sure.As long as Deathstroke can't do anything to the Shikigami, his chances of winning this fight is slim because he has no feats of fighting invisible, invulnerably enemies that can track him down. That's not even to mention the actual people who can and will fight alongside these invisible enemies, one of which is twice as tough as him or anything he can throw and is resistant to any tricks in his bag to hurt him.
Doesn't need to. He just needs to deal the users.I don't think he has a way to deal with Shikigami and with speed equal,
Deathstroke has a small arsenal of firearms, energy staffs, projectile bombs, and more, as well as the ability to predict, calculate and know every attack that will happen before they're even thought of occurring. This isn't much of an issue. He also has AOE gas grenades, power null discs, and concussive grenades that make it so hard to focus that you can't even use your powers, etc.even if he's vastly more skilled, he's gonna be dealing with Yuji + ranged support.
He could literally just drop a stun bomb at the start, incap the whole squad and unload high cal rounds or methium into them, mind you, these can kill dudes like this.Killing Megumi is his best shot and Megumi isn't a physical slouch/ has amazing feats of literally getting tossed around a town by Sukuna for his durability, even catching Sukuna in a Snake + Nue Combo, by himself.
This ain't helping though, in fact, Slade can account for that and take them both out easily.This is compounded by the fact that Yuji will risk his life to protect Megumi and Nobara as he did in that very arc.
I don't see how Deathstroke wins under these circumstances without any physical prep to go along with his knowledge.
Problem is speed equal, in normal circumstances with even a slight gap, I could see him doing the things you are about to tell me, but given the speed, he isn't going to be able to outpace them with several actions before himself having to dodge, adapt his aim, rethink his strat, etc.Doesn't need to. He just needs to deal the users.
I would agree with this if it wasn't speed equal and the fact that he literally cannot win after Megumi summons any noteworthy shinigami. Even if Yuji's first move is dying by trying to pressure Deathstroke, that gives Megumi plenty of time to summon dogs, snake, or Nue.Deathstroke has a small arsenal of firearms, energy staffs, projectile bombs, and more, as well as the ability to predict, calculate and know every attack that will happen before they're even thought of occurring. This isn't much of an issue. He also has AOE gas grenades, power null discs, and concussive grenades that make it so hard to focus that you can't even use your powers, etc.
He could literally just drop a stun bomb at the start, incap the whole squad and unload high cal rounds or methium into them, mind you, these can kill dudes like this.
This ain't helping though, in fact, Slade can account for that and take them both out easily.
The very fact he has knowledge on them, means he knows everything they will do before they do it, and has the tools to instantly incap right away, let alone the ability to just slip away, outlast, or any manner of wacky stuff. Even something as simple as sniping from max distance is feasible, even if they dodge, they won't dodge the ocelet ricochet given he'd know they'd dodge and where to before they do so.
If Slade didn't have prior knowledge I'd give it to the lads, or even just one of them, but knowing his stuff is a tremendous game-changer.
My dude, exactly, it's speed equal, and he starts hundreds of meters away. You're acting like he starts within arm's reach. And, even if he did, he just needs to use one AOE stun weapon which is as easy as pressing his thumb, which he'd know to do because he has prior knowledge.Problem is speed equal, in normal circumstances with even a slight gap, I could see him doing the things you are about to tell me, but given the speed, he isn't going to be able to outpace them with several actions before himself having to dodge, adapt his aim, rethink his strat, etc.
My dude, they're useless, they're only an issue if Slade decides to roll up and throw hands, which he obviously isn't doing, Deathstroke doesn't have to fight them, he just needs to get rid of Megumi and the others.I would agree with this if it wasn't speed equal and the fact that he literally cannot win after Megumi summons any noteworthy shinigami. Even if Yuji's first move is dying by trying to pressure Deathstroke, that gives Megumi plenty of time to summon dogs, snake, or Nue.
Still rolling my eyes from that Deathstroke vs Flash feat from when I first saw it
Oh lmao, I didn't know that, from the description, I was imagining them starting across from each other in like a highschool gym or hallway. If he's obscured with full knowledge and hundreds of meters of distance, he can probably end Megumi before the shinigami can locate and kill a full knowledge stroke.My dude, exactly, it's speed equal, and he starts hundreds of meters away.
I totally forgot that the shikigami are invisible/intangible to DS. It very much does change things.I feel the Ten Shadows would cause a lot of difficulty, no? I mean you got Nue who can induce paralysis, a massive snake, two dogs, frogs that can snag things, etc.
Doing this is unlikely to work this early in the series. Yuji only had 2 fingers at this point so Sukuna is not invested in his personal safety. If he dies, so what. Sukuna will just wait for another reincarnation to happen. He only intervened in the Mahito fight because his soul got attacked, and he only saved Yuji in the cursed womb arc because there was a finger there to consume and he extorted Yuji for the binding vow.I just realized something. Couldn't Itadori call upon Sukuna if things were going bad? Sukuna's first key merely upscales from Itadori (As in 1 finger Sukuna). And would offer a LOT more than Itadori in the form of Domain Expansion and Regen.