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Deku vs Nee-Sama [2-0-0]
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I didn't really get any response, but I personally don't think its realistic for Deku to land any hits before Ram either knocks him out or outright kills him considering how massive I see the skill gap between them.
She would be able to create counters to anything he tries the moment he thinks of it while also exploiting the gap between his thoughts and actions to shut down his attempts before he can execute them.
She could also use her wind jails to restrict his movement and further limit his options.
Based on all of this I am voting for a comfortable win for Ram.
She would be able to create counters to anything he tries the moment he thinks of it while also exploiting the gap between his thoughts and actions to shut down his attempts before he can execute them.
She could also use her wind jails to restrict his movement and further limit his options.
Based on all of this I am voting for a comfortable win for Ram.
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The arguments for Ram sound more convincing to me right now
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Dont forget the part where even if an attack hits, Ram won't take damage due to damage reduction, and on top of that, she has superhuman control over her body which allows her to not take fatal wounds from aoe attacks.
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is that a vote?
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gearshift would allow deku to stat deplete her to snail level if she gets touched
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Also i distinctly remember the LN buffing Ram, to where despite facing off against Rai who is a extraordinary genius who has countless fighting styles, and can fuse and create new ones, Ram won with skill...
If this comes down to cqc, I dont believe there is any scenario Deku even lands a hit.
If this comes down to cqc, I dont believe there is any scenario Deku even lands a hit.
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I think it was a translation error from Yenpress's end, but i could be wrong. Either way, she was stat boosted against him and it shouldn't be counted as a pure "skill" based win.
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I'm not going to hold you... this isn't even close to resembling a fair matchup.
For one, let's just have a look of these BS conditions.
This is actually more devastating than it looks. I think you guys may be ignoring this elephant in the room.
Since speed is equalized DOWN to the LOWER character speed, they are both at 0.164c at the start of the match.
But the thing is, amps retain the same multiplier relative to that equalized speed. So, Ram basically gets a 7x speed increase the moment she gets her 5th shackle.
That alone already makes this a huge stomp, but let's go further.
Satella claims this is a matchup of SKILL? ARE YOU JOKING?
Ram has fought a dude that has absorbed the knowledge and memories of countless martial artists. She is said to have great martial arts skill in a verse where good martial arts skill lets you dodge invisible danmaku with your eyes closed and predict the movements of people that can negate your five senses.
She also has a blessing that practically allows her to read Deku's mind, on top of having a better danger sense ability through her sheer intuition and 6th sense.
Literally what in the world does Deku have on that? Notice his page doesn't even say martial arts, but "expert hand to hand-combatant" LMAO. Ram was ruthlessly beating up a guy who absorbed thousands of people who have better statements of skill than Deku has. And basically DIDNT GET HIT.
Deku's danger sense isn't even useful because not only does Ram have a better version, but she would just experience it for herself via her blessing/clairvoyance/intuition. She would not only know what Deku is going to do next, but also what HE believes SHE is going to do next LOL.
She also can manipulate her perception to see Deku in slow motion, as if the speed gap between them wasn't already enough. She might as well be fighting a snail.
Now let's talk abilities.
Deku mainly has his punches. But as established, he isn't even hitting her.
What about air blast shockwaves? Yeah, so Ram actually has air magic that is a million times superior to that.
What about Black Whip? Ram has greater lifting strength and also just isn't getting hit in the first place?
What about Gearshift? She's not getting hit + He gets blitzed
Meanwhile, what in the world is Deku doing against wind magic danmaku that bursts his eardrums and attacks him internally?
I get it. I wanna smash Ram too. But this is some crazy spite man LMAO.
This is a STOMP!
For one, let's just have a look of these BS conditions.
This is actually more devastating than it looks. I think you guys may be ignoring this elephant in the room.
Since speed is equalized DOWN to the LOWER character speed, they are both at 0.164c at the start of the match.
But the thing is, amps retain the same multiplier relative to that equalized speed. So, Ram basically gets a 7x speed increase the moment she gets her 5th shackle.
That alone already makes this a huge stomp, but let's go further.
Satella claims this is a matchup of SKILL? ARE YOU JOKING?
Ram has fought a dude that has absorbed the knowledge and memories of countless martial artists. She is said to have great martial arts skill in a verse where good martial arts skill lets you dodge invisible danmaku with your eyes closed and predict the movements of people that can negate your five senses.
She also has a blessing that practically allows her to read Deku's mind, on top of having a better danger sense ability through her sheer intuition and 6th sense.
Literally what in the world does Deku have on that? Notice his page doesn't even say martial arts, but "expert hand to hand-combatant" LMAO. Ram was ruthlessly beating up a guy who absorbed thousands of people who have better statements of skill than Deku has. And basically DIDNT GET HIT.
Deku's danger sense isn't even useful because not only does Ram have a better version, but she would just experience it for herself via her blessing/clairvoyance/intuition. She would not only know what Deku is going to do next, but also what HE believes SHE is going to do next LOL.
She also can manipulate her perception to see Deku in slow motion, as if the speed gap between them wasn't already enough. She might as well be fighting a snail.
Now let's talk abilities.
Deku mainly has his punches. But as established, he isn't even hitting her.
What about air blast shockwaves? Yeah, so Ram actually has air magic that is a million times superior to that.
What about Black Whip? Ram has greater lifting strength and also just isn't getting hit in the first place?
What about Gearshift? She's not getting hit + He gets blitzed
Meanwhile, what in the world is Deku doing against wind magic danmaku that bursts his eardrums and attacks him internally?
I get it. I wanna smash Ram too. But this is some crazy spite man LMAO.
This is a STOMP!
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I do agree that it is one sided, however the speed gap is merely 2x and Deku holds a significant advantage in both AP and durability here. It was also mentioned that Ram would lose if she tried to directly block one of his attacks, which means there is still a realistic path for Deku to win because of that I believe the matchup still qualifies and should not be considered a stomp.
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Read the full thread, the speed gap is roughly 2x
any hit she attempts to block would also end with her getting reverse amped, and then losing because she can't move against deku effectively, and he did punt her upside the head
he does have a wincon and considering deku vs goku happened, I cant say much about fair matches when he is involved
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The speed gap isn't 2x since there is no 3x multiplier that I can see on the page.
Also "merely 2x" as if 2x speed gap is small. Speed is not AP. 2x speed means your opponent lands 2x the hits. And everything you do is half of what they can react to.
Ram also has perception slowing which makes this even worse for Deku.
Btw, when Ram fought against Rye she was dodging all of his attacks. Her choosing to block attacks from someone who is already much slower and less skilled than her seems odd.
This is not a fair matchup
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Is it me or does the scenario feel contrived asf for Deku?
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Why was he deleted?
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If everything hinges on Deku landing a hit, couldn't he use his usual Smokescreen and Black Whip strategy? This worked against someone who knew his location, could sense danger and ill intentions, and also possessed predictive analytical skills.
Even if she can detect him within the smokescreen, Deku should be able to attack from multiple angles simultaneously.
And considering this fight seems designed to make Ram Deku's ultimate downfall, it wouldn't be surprising if he resorts to this kind of strategy, or even attacks from above. Since Ram doesn't appear to have the ability to fly or pseudo-fly, if he can't make her fly, he could make the area around her explode, which could open another opportunity, especially if Deku slows down the debris or his own smokescreen.
(Even if she can predict his location by something like movement in the smoke or something similar, it could be a disadvantage while he's slowing her down.)
By including a factor Quirk in the Black Whip, he seems to be splitting his presence, since Shaigaraki didn't differentiate between Deku and the remnant.
This could be relevant if he chooses the Soulbreaker strategy; what he did consciously, based on the information he had about Shiggi, could be unintentionally repeated against Ram.
I say all this assuming that Deku's victory condition is touching Ram, which I see as possible considering several of the strategies he has already used.
Even if she can detect him within the smokescreen, Deku should be able to attack from multiple angles simultaneously.
And considering this fight seems designed to make Ram Deku's ultimate downfall, it wouldn't be surprising if he resorts to this kind of strategy, or even attacks from above. Since Ram doesn't appear to have the ability to fly or pseudo-fly, if he can't make her fly, he could make the area around her explode, which could open another opportunity, especially if Deku slows down the debris or his own smokescreen.
(Even if she can predict his location by something like movement in the smoke or something similar, it could be a disadvantage while he's slowing her down.)
By including a factor Quirk in the Black Whip, he seems to be splitting his presence, since Shaigaraki didn't differentiate between Deku and the remnant.
This could be relevant if he chooses the Soulbreaker strategy; what he did consciously, based on the information he had about Shiggi, could be unintentionally repeated against Ram.
I say all this assuming that Deku's victory condition is touching Ram, which I see as possible considering several of the strategies he has already used.
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Ram's analytical predictions are better than mind reading, the sheer gap in their analytical precognition causes the situation to be flipped on its head.
This is shown to be useless multiple times, not just attacking from multiple angles but from the perfect angle, at the perfect time, in her blind spot too. She upscales from Elsa Granhiert who:
Nothing stops her from just jailing him like she did with Ley...
Explosions likely would not be effective either:
And she can negate Shamak which is superior to any smokescreen you can ever conjure
She could just read his mind...
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This feels like a spite match.
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Considering what I've personally heard from Satella, it doesn't seem like the matchup was intended to be a spite match. Rather, it appears to have been an unintentional stomp.
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