They are still to the very end of the battle
When we get up to fight Omega Flowery, the sun is behind the horizon and the land is still visible. It's not the sunset that causes it to fade to black, it's Flowery's manipulation.
Every imitation is to scale, but when it's the sun, it's "I wouldn't say that". Yes you would, prove it's a different scale there. Justify your answer too, why would it be different in that specific case?
Prove they are small? Prove that they are fake? If the only evidence for that is the fox trying to mimic it then... it isn't really good proof at all imo ngl
Plus even so, they can still be calced, so they would still matter
Clouds can get behind them, so the sun is fake.
They're not based on an object that would realistic produce a sun, it's a giant light bulb, not plasma.
The kitsune is always to scale except when it frustates your scaling.
IDK why is a Jack of Spades not a card
Terrible point.
The controller character is based on a controller. The jack of spades is shaped like a spade. The light bulb is not a ball of plasma.
Do you even know how Dark World work? It makes an object something else through Shadow voodoo or whatever... It becoming a Sun is part of the course for all the other things that become completely different things in a Dark World
I do, you don't. They can change shape, but they're always 100% based on the object they're mimicking. Lancer is shaped like the Jack of Spades. The controller is shaped and has powers based on a controller.
The sun is made out of a light bulb, it's glass and light.
Also i am not making any assumptions
"Every human is 6'6", and a teenager being considered short at that height is normal". The assumption is that Kris can both be short and 6'6". They cannot unless the story establishes that this is a short height.
That's not the comparison being made by the line, you are adding a piece of context taken out of nowhere to justify the classification of shortness. Also, even if we compare Kris, a normal 16yo, to the monsters, almost none of them are 6'6"
You should argue instead "10 Feet is metaphorical and not literal" and then I would agree
I don't care for your agreement.
.. oh yeah, the classic Human trait of RIPPING OF YOUR OWN SOUL and SEALING DARK GEISERS WITH IT... and having Yellow skin.... yeah no, we will not appeal to reality in DELTARUNE of all things, Humans ARE NOTHING like IRL, be it in Undertale, be it for Kris in Deltarune.
Me when I'm in a disingenous competition and my opponent is a VSBW Deltarune scaler²
Your entire premise and argument is false analogies, false equivalences and fallacies to beginning to end, because you genuinely can't debate like a normal person, and needs to extrapolate every piece of pushback you receive. When did I say "Deltarune humans are 1:1 with real life"? When did I say "they're RESTRICTED" to human traits?
Never.
But you're the one who thinks because an aspect of reality has fictional elements, it means any OTHER fictional element comes by default. They do not.
Yes, Humans have heart souls and can rip them out (assuming this is a species thing is your second mistake, but oh well), but that's a completely different fictional trait that having their heights being different.
You're using apples to justify oranges, and you don't even understand your fundamental mistake, and I find that funny, hilarious, but ultimately, not worth my time. Your argument is a terrible fallacy and that's it. No one is buying your argument because anyone can see where it fails.
If a fictional story establishes the Sun has a space station where fire people live, that doesn't mean the sun isn't as hot as it is IRL, or that it isn't as big as it is IRL. One fictional element doesn't erase the other aspects that are based on the real life version of these objects. Just because a dog has 6 legs in a story, that doesn't mean it doesn't bark.
Of course, the story can still establish these differences, but if it doesn't, we assume minimal derpature with the EXCEPTION of the ficional elements that WERE established.
So no, Omega. The humans being able to rip out their soul DOESN'T work as a counterargument to their heights being realistic until proven otherwise, that's a
different aspects of the narrative. The trait you cited is NECESSARY for the narrative, what's the narrative necessity for humans to be twice as tall as their real life counterparts for no reason, without established lore, world building? No.
You're here debating, with a false narrative, about something you don't even agree with. Give me a break, genuinely.
Also quote me when i said "Humans are not allowed to be that tall in fiction"? I never said that's what you said... Your ego is blinding you bro, do you seriously cannot even fathom someone disagreeing with you and having a different interpretation? I don't even say it in a bad way... you should open your mind a bit, would make you happier and less stressed
When you complain that I, and I quote:
"
you are acting like Humans
can't be taller
there", there = the fictional verse.
You are implying that I think it's not something to be allowed, that they "can't be taller there", can't means, 'it's not possible to', if you didn't know.
Which yes, I did quote you saying you believe I said "they're not allowed to be taller", because you did, and that's not what I said.
