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Both are 2-A
Who wins?
Demiurge (11eyes-Tsumi to Batsu to Aganai no Shoujo):
Nicol Bolas:
Inconclusive:
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Demiurge vs Nicol Bolas
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Both are 2-A
Who wins?
Demiurge (11eyes-Tsumi to Batsu to Aganai no Shoujo):
Nicol Bolas:
Inconclusive:
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Seriously though Angel chick via type 8 immortality
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What is Demi's leading move?
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She doesn't have a set leading move, that depends on what info she gets on her opponent due to being able to understand everything about them including their ideology and past, and also being able to see all of time and the infinite possibilities of the future. Both of these abilities are always on.
Although the first thing she did when she became sentient was power null Tachibana Kukuri, making her human again.
Although the first thing she did when she became sentient was power null Tachibana Kukuri, making her human again.
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Then I guess Nicol via Mind crush?
IDK, seems a bit inconclusive.
IDK, seems a bit inconclusive.
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Guessing nicol leads with mind screw? If memory serves me right, he has 5-D mind screw no?
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You know Nicol has dozens of ways to bypass that right?ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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Not really sure she should have the type 8 immortality honestly, i just assume she did since she is the ideas and dreams of countless souls but also at the same time is a bunch of ppl like Lieselotte Werckmeister, Kakeru Satsuki, Tachibana Kukuri, so if you kill her you would just be killing one of her? But there is still more of her? Idk, at the very least she still is an abstract being with mid-godly regn, but i already know nicol can kill beings like that, which is why i thought this would be interesting.
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@Celestial So could that be her making M bodies? Or Avatar's
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@Gar Basically Demiurge was initially just the ability of Kukuri, that ability was basically just a manifestation of Kukuri's soul.
After Kukuri became a God and absorbed the Eye of Aeon, Demiurge gained it's own consciousness, so now it's no longer just Kukuri's power but a sentient being. It became a sentient being in order to grant Kukuri's wish of wanting to be with Kakeru, because as a God she was isolated from the world, mankind could never perceive her existence. She loved kakeru but couldn't be with him, Demiurge became sentient after absorbing the Eye which has the souls of billions of people from the start of mankind.
So Demiurge became sentient, and made Kukuri just a regular human again, Demiurge is now a sentient being, and a being which is the ideas and dreams of the billions of souls in the Eye of Aeon.
The Eye of Aeon has existed since the start of mankind and in exchange for eating away at the user's soul allows the user to the decide what the future should be from an infinite number of possibilities, basically all the previous users souls got absorbed into the Eye.
Anyway here is what i am talking about, Demiurge is the ideas and dreams of the billions of souls in the Eye, and is also now Lieselotte Werckmeister, Kakeru Satsuki, Tachibana Kukuri etc. She literally is them now.
After Kukuri became a God and absorbed the Eye of Aeon, Demiurge gained it's own consciousness, so now it's no longer just Kukuri's power but a sentient being. It became a sentient being in order to grant Kukuri's wish of wanting to be with Kakeru, because as a God she was isolated from the world, mankind could never perceive her existence. She loved kakeru but couldn't be with him, Demiurge became sentient after absorbing the Eye which has the souls of billions of people from the start of mankind.
So Demiurge became sentient, and made Kukuri just a regular human again, Demiurge is now a sentient being, and a being which is the ideas and dreams of the billions of souls in the Eye of Aeon.
The Eye of Aeon has existed since the start of mankind and in exchange for eating away at the user's soul allows the user to the decide what the future should be from an infinite number of possibilities, basically all the previous users souls got absorbed into the Eye.
Anyway here is what i am talking about, Demiurge is the ideas and dreams of the billions of souls in the Eye, and is also now Lieselotte Werckmeister, Kakeru Satsuki, Tachibana Kukuri etc. She literally is them now.
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I'll have to back Bolas namely due to Mindhax. Demiurge isn't going to be able to recover from someone who would bypass 5D mind manip resistances even with the gates to his mind wide open. That, and Bolas actually has methods of bypassing her Regen, and while Demiurge outranks Bolas in intelligence, I don't really see her getting past Mid-Godly, and eventually Bolas will end up haxxing her where she can't counter or resist (Although even then Bolas can neg magic and regen at her level).
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Does he start with mind hax, and is he acausal?
I don't see acausality on his profile, if so demiurge could potentially fate hax him.
I don't see acausality on his profile, if so demiurge could potentially fate hax him.
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Bolas usually uses Mindhax first if he's actually trying to kill someone (or at least a lot of the time, considering most of his cards and his stories involve some sort of mindhaxxing), that or BFR/EE.
How good is her fate hax, and how is it activated? IDK if that's also the first thing she would do, but given her intelligence I wouldn't doubt it.
(EDIT): Actually, Bolas has Casuality Manipulation too, through clockworking.
How good is her fate hax, and how is it activated? IDK if that's also the first thing she would do, but given her intelligence I wouldn't doubt it.
(EDIT): Actually, Bolas has Casuality Manipulation too, through clockworking.
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Her fate hax allows her to decide what the future should be from among an infinite number of possibilities, and make anything happen even if there is only a tiny, infinitesimal possibility that something can happen.
It's activated with a thought, she is basically always watching over time, it's always active,demiurge is basically an "observer" to reality, she watches all of time unconstrained by eye contact, she would basically know how the battle would play out in an infinite number of scenarios due to being able to see the infinite possibilities for the future, plus she would understand everything about nicol, so she would obviously choose her most viable means of winning.
It's activated with a thought, she is basically always watching over time, it's always active,demiurge is basically an "observer" to reality, she watches all of time unconstrained by eye contact, she would basically know how the battle would play out in an infinite number of scenarios due to being able to see the infinite possibilities for the future, plus she would understand everything about nicol, so she would obviously choose her most viable means of winning.
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Bolas has precog, so he could lead with just about whatever assuming he takes it seriously. Bolas has his own causality manip, as dargoo noted, and also has power nullification in the form of counterspells. I don't think the Demiurge can do anything about his type 6, but what about his mid-godly?
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How good is his precog? And i am not even sure precog works on demiurge since tachibana could see all of time, yet didn't see that demiurge would become it's own being and power null her, though i remember something about tachibana not wanting to look at the future cause if she did it would be determined or something like that, but whatever, still need to know how good bolas precog is.
Demiurge is acausal so his causality manipulation is useless, power null could work, but if bolas isn't acausal demiurge can fate warp him so he losses.
Demiurge is acausal so his causality manipulation is useless, power null could work, but if bolas isn't acausal demiurge can fate warp him so he losses.
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