Devil May Cry Discussion Thread 5

[ZERO7772]

The 5th thread for the 5th Devi may cry game~

Lasy thread: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2156771#335

The wait continues...

 

[Lightning_XXI]

First

 

[Sparda_20000000]

Couldn't we just put weaker but comparable to Nero who defeated enchinda

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

3rd

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Couldn't we just put weaker but comparable to Nero who defeated enchinda

I don't think that's how it works. We don't know if Dante is truly comparable to Nero, since there was never any comparison to begin with.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

So your suggestion is to downgrade DMC1 and DMC3 cast to 8-B ?

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

The MC is fodder in his own verse, I'm not really surprised here :"v

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Not to really downgrade, but to change the DMC3 Dante's and Vergil's ratings to "At least 8-B, likely Low 7-B". Dante's reasoning would look like this:

Attack Potency: At least City Block level (Before awakening his Devil Trigger, defeated Cerberus, who almost instantly froze the Temen-ni-gru's entrance), likely Small City level+ (With combined efforts of himself and Vergil, defeated Blob Arkham, who harnessed the power of Sparda, albeit a small amount of it)

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Following your logic, DMC1 Dante also is affected since we also "don't have anything to scale him to Echidna"

This also affects V, Cavaliere Angelo (who scales to Trish who scales to Echidna) and Golliath

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

That's true. I think he should be "Likely at least Low 7-B".

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Btw, I'm considering making profiles for Cerberus and Nevan once the calc in question is evaluated. Those should be the last relevant demons in the series, for now.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

The MC is fodder in his own verse, I'm not really surprised here :"v

But Nero is not a fodder

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Technically he is, even Abigail is weak compared to the Gods Tiers of the franchise

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Joke


Your head

 

[Lightning_XXI]

lmao

Also, why Nevan tho ?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Cuz "sugarrrrrrr~"

Dante scales to her in speed, so I think she should have a profile as well. As of her AP, we could say she should be comparable to Cerberus, as a Temen-ni-Gru guardian.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

Is it worth calculating the speed of her lighting?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Idk, I was thinking about that, but couldn't come up with a way to do so.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Btw, what scales Nero to Dante's speed ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Btw, what scales Nero to Dante's speed ? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Being >>> Lady and fighting off Blitzes

Nice try though

 

[Lightning_XXI]

It was a joke, obviously lol

I remember that enemies change depending on the difficulty, as Nero we fight Blitz in every mode ? He scales to DMC3 for being superior to him anyway

 

[Sparda_20000000]

@reb what do you think about a calculation of the speed of mundus's particle beam?

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Well, I remember encountering them at some point, but I can't really figure out on what difficulty it was

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Btw ZERO, I noticed the REEEEEEE:0 has 8-B and Low 7-B characters as well ovo

 

[Lightning_XXI]

If he really fights Blitz, he should be MHS+ in Movement too, not only in Combat and Reactions

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

• shrugs

I'd play safe and just scale him above Dante

 

[Sparda_20000000]

I tried requesting a calc on it but nothing came of it

I think nevan's lightening and mundus's particle beam are both worth taking a look at.

The particle beam is the only thing we could use to scale the god tier in terms of speed

 

[Sparda_20000000]

Btw ZERO, I noticed the REEEEEEE:0 has 8-B and Low 7-B characters as well ovo

We can have Dante vs inuyasha at least

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Yo Reb

Cerberus profile >>> https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Dante_Demon_Killah/Cerberus_(Devil_May_Cry)

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

What about the scene where Blitz appears? Could his speed be calculated there? Maybe it can give something good.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

He is a living Cloud-to-ground Lighting, he is MHS+

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Uuuuuuuuuh

Why are you scaling Cerberus to Echidna again? I'm sure we've been over this for enough time to consider that as a non-option? He should be flat-out 8-B.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Also I am really iffy on the resistances from the Beastheads. Not only they come from a single vague statement, but are also contradicted several times across the series.

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

He is a living Cloud-to-ground Lighting, he is MHS+

And Abigail created lightning that moves at sub rel speed, it is possible for this to be higher too.

Let me dream of sub rel Dante again >:v

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Let me dream of sub rel Dante again >:v

"Not in a million years"

 

[Lightning_XXI]

I put an "Likely" tho, he still 8-B

The resistances are okay, but they are baseline, any half-good hax work on Dante actually

Aaaaaaaaaaaand the Novel states that a Demon FORM is resistant, which means Dante only resists them in Devil Trigger, and he wasn't using it in any occasion during the Novel or when Mundus did BFR him, we actually never saw Dante getting a BFR, or Reality Warped, or Space-Time haxed or Precoged when he was using DT

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I'm joking, don't kill me pls :"v

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

I think by being immune they meant that instead of draining demons, the Beastheads heal them, not that they're immune to the abilities that come from them, like BFR, etc.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Can you show me the part of the novel that makes you believe that? It's possible tho

But as I said before, the resistance never got contradicted, at least for now

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

Dante has a good point, Dante never got affected in his DT

That line is weird but you know what I meant with that.