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Hello. I am a new person here on the wiki - I have lurked for a relatively long time and participated on the OBD here. I decided to make an account after learning about this. I am a proud DMC fangirl and it's one of my favorite fictions out there.
That said though.
Recently, Devil May Cry appeared to have received an upgrade to Universal level, and then to Universe level, possibly Universe level+. The reasoning for both of those is based off of a feat of the Devil King Argosax, for merging together two realms that are purported to be universe-sized or higher.
I am not going to argue against the existence of the feat, since it does seem that it's a legitimate lore feat in Devil May Cry 2.
The only thing here is: why is this feat not considered an outlier? I know this was discussed on the upgrade thread, but this feat is way beyond the other feats performed in the series. While the wiki does have a policy that the strongest, upper-level characters in the series receive much less strict "outlier" policies, since they're entitled to much superior feats, the problem here is that even other Upper characters in the verse, such as Mundus and Sparda, do have their own serious feats, and they don't come anywhere close to this feat:
So why aren't we rejecting it as an outlier?
That said though.
Recently, Devil May Cry appeared to have received an upgrade to Universal level, and then to Universe level, possibly Universe level+. The reasoning for both of those is based off of a feat of the Devil King Argosax, for merging together two realms that are purported to be universe-sized or higher.
I am not going to argue against the existence of the feat, since it does seem that it's a legitimate lore feat in Devil May Cry 2.
The only thing here is: why is this feat not considered an outlier? I know this was discussed on the upgrade thread, but this feat is way beyond the other feats performed in the series. While the wiki does have a policy that the strongest, upper-level characters in the series receive much less strict "outlier" policies, since they're entitled to much superior feats, the problem here is that even other Upper characters in the verse, such as Mundus and Sparda, do have their own serious feats, and they don't come anywhere close to this feat:
- Sparda - Sparda required a complex ritual to seal off the Temen-ni-Gru, the devil tower that connected the Underworld and the Earth in ancient times. That ritual included sealing his own power and giving away his blood in order to suppress the tower's demonic energy. If Argosax, a character equal or even inferior to Sparda's power, is able to fuse two Dimensions into one into, then logically Sparda should be capable of casually sealing off portals connecting them together. Yet he doesn't.
- Mundus - Mundus himself required the usage of gateways to traverse between the worlds. After his powers were sealed away by Sparda, it took several years for the conditions for him to remerge and create such gateways to be adequate. Yet, he is established to be a Devil King equal to Argosax in power.
So why aren't we rejecting it as an outlier?