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Diane (NNT) vs Oars (One Piece)

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speedster352 said:
Stop making things up.
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What exactly is he making up? The fact that to break Oars' bones they had to tie him still, POINT HIS HEAD UP and ALIGN HIS WHOLE SPINE UPRIGHT to incap him?
It's canon. Not made up. You'd know if you had knowledge about the opposite verse. You do this WAY TOO OFTEN in every NNT related thread, my guy.
 
Diane: 4(speedster352, Kachon123, Expectro2000xxx, Majinere566)
Oars: 9(TheForgottenKing, Lugh_Tuathe_De, Popted2, Harith0Cell, SnookB, Eminiteable, Shadyboi0, KobsterHope07, Kazuma_kuwabara)
 
SnookB said:
What exactly is he making up? The fact that to break Oars' bones they had to tie him still, POINT HIS HEAD UP and ALIGN HIS WHOLE SPINE UPRIGHT to incap him?
It's canon. Not made up. You'd know if you had knowledge about the opposite verse. You do this WAY TOO OFTEN in every NNT related thread, my guy.
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Could be done in another way if Diane was like 5 times stronger not gonna lie
 
SnookB said:
What exactly is he making up? The fact that to break Oars' bones they had to tie him still, POINT HIS HEAD UP and ALIGN HIS WHOLE SPINE UPRIGHT to incap him?
It's canon. Not made up. You'd know if you had knowledge about the opposite verse. You do this WAY TOO OFTEN in every NNT related thread, my guy.
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Diane ap is higher with friends and
  • Queen Embrace: Diane summons a giant wave of earth, much larger than even an Albion, that she rides over her enemies, burying them beneath a vast amount of earth.
  • Sand Whirl: Diane performs specific hand motions and touches the ground, creating an area of quicksand under her opponent.
  • Rising Meteor: Diane raises Gideon high above her head, erecting an enormous star-shaped pillar from below her opponent which slams into them at extremely high speeds as it rises into the sky.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
I can. It is a character specific technique that increases power, just as Luffy and Zoro have amplifiers, Diane has hers too. You can't restrict it. It is literally the fundamental technique of the character
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She should be allowed to use it and maybe the op should change the opponent also Ls advantage means that she can launch oars Edit she knows his weakness so she targets his back and her friends do that as well.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
I can. It is a character specific technique that increases power, just as Luffy and Zoro have amplifiers, Diane has hers too. You can't restrict it. It is literally the fundamental technique of the character
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We have battles of Escanor not being able to use sunshine to skip a tier, we have battles of Luffy not being able to use gear second to fight Doflamingo, in this battle, Diane is only low 7-B or she would just INSTA WIN with the dance
 
In order for the Straw Hats, a group of people with comparable AP to Oars, to defeat Oars, they needed to do the following.
Completely disable one of his limbs, completely freeze him in place, wrap him in a gigantic moving chain that covered his neck and arm, slice his stomach to the point where his back could be straightened in order to remove the natural shock absorption factor of his body, then hit him with the strongest technique in the series at that moment.

Diane isn't doing that.

LIFE_OF_KING said:
Diane stomps. You guys are forgetting that she starts dancing, which makes her become from 7-A to High 7-A
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
Yes, and? Drole's Dance is Statistics Amplification
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LIFE_OF_KING said:
I can. It is a character specific technique that increases power, just as Luffy and Zoro have amplifiers, Diane has hers too. You can't restrict it. It is literally the fundamental technique of the character
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  • Kindly do not create spite or stomp threads, whether by tier, speed or an absurd difference in hax proficiency (that is, a very hax character vs one with little to no hax) unless the other character possesses abilities that compensate for this advantage.
    • See here for information regarding one-shots in versus threads.
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- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Versus_Thread_Rules
In order for a one-shot to happen, Fighter A's attack must have an Attack Potency that's quite above Fighter B's Durability. The gap needed to qualify varies from verse to verse, which makes a one-shot from a VS Battles standpoint very hard to determine. What can be certain is that if Fighter A is in a different tier than Fighter B (ex: Fighter A is Planet level and Fighter B is Moon level), then most likely, Fighter A can one-shot the opponent.

Normally, when one fighter is capable of one-shotting, it is considered a stomp. It isn't fair when Fighter A can beat Fighter B with a single move, and only serves to either give Fighter A a free win or Fighter B a loss. However, if Fighter B is capable of getting around the one-shot, whether it is with a certain survivability, such as Immortality, Regeneration, Incorporeality, or some other serious defensive hax, or can (and will) utilize hax before getting hit, it may be no longer a stomp.

Just like with Speed Blitzes, a match where one character can one-shot the other often doesn't allow for much discussion or debate. And largely takes away the majority of one's arsenal, strategies, skills and abilities if someone can just kill them before they get the chance to use them, and it results in a stomp/spite match more often then not. Because of this, it is mandatory to make matches where Fighter A can't one-shot Fighter B, and if Fighter A can, there are feasible ways for Fighter B to get around it.
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- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/One-Shot
A spite thread is a type of Versus Thread in which two or more characters of vastly different Power are put against each other. A Spite Thread is made in order to humiliate one of the characters by making them lose without standing a chance or to enrage the fans of the character. They are different from stomp threads, as the one who created a spite thread did so with bad intentions, while stomp threads are created by accident.

Since Spite and Stomp Threads are unnecessary and will just breed bad blood in the community they are generally prohibited.
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- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Spite_Thread

Shit isn't allowed

We restrict amplifiers all the time if they cause stomps.

She doesn't get the technique. Simple
 
Agree with LOK, you can't just remove Diane's statistics amplification from this match just because it makes her 7-A to High 7-A.

Unless directly stated by the OP that the ability is restricted it is usable by Diane, which would make this a massive stomp within Diane's favor.
 
We're not going to literally break the wiki's damn rules because yall want a win.

Her amp provides her with a stomp. Oars can use his amps because they don't provide a stomp. She can use many of hers as well since they don't provide a 7.5x AP stomp.

You saw a Mountain level rating against a low end Small City level character and thought it was allowed? Are you serious?
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
I can. It is a character specific technique that increases power, just as Luffy and Zoro have amplifiers, Diane has hers too. You can't restrict it. It is literally the fundamental technique of the character
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If a characters has a technique that has allow a character to go into a different tier, it can be restricted according to the Versus Battle Thread

  • It is not fine to restrict abilities in a versus matchup, implicitly or expressly. Matches that are arranged this way should not be added to the character profiles, as they don't involve their full potential, and are only intended for casual entertainment. An exception would be if the restricted ability/technique has a separate tier from the main one, and is one the character can consciously restrict themselves from using. In this case, the match can be added. The match can also be added if Optional Equipments such as optional power-ups and items are restricted, or if the ability being restricted is indexed after a "Likely" or "Possibly" conditional.
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Deceived said:
Agree with LOK, you can't just remove Diane's statistics amplification from this match just because it makes her 7-A to High 7-A.

Unless directly stated by the OP that the ability is restricted it is usable by Diane, which would make this a massive stomp within Diane's favor.
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There literally dozens of battles on this site where certain techniques and transformations are restricted so the character doesn't ascend a tier. Why is this suddenly a big deal now?
 
KingTempest said:
In order for the Straw Hats, a group of people with comparable AP to Oars, to defeat Oars, they needed to do the following.
Completely disable one of his limbs, completely freeze him in place, wrap him in a gigantic moving chain that covered his neck and arm, slice his stomach to the point where his back could be straightened in order to remove the natural shock absorption factor of his body, then hit him with the strongest technique in the series at that moment.

Diane isn't doing that.





- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Versus_Thread_Rules

- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/One-Shot

- https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Spite_Thread

Shit isn't allowed

We restrict amplifiers all the time if they cause stomps.

She doesn't get the technique. Simple
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Anyway, Diane knows his weakness and she can exploit it with her superior strength and size and her creation abilities and friends.
 
speedster352 said:
Anyway, Diane knows his weakness and she can exploit it with her superior strength and size and her creation abilities and friends.
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Do you just not listen?
KingTempest said:
In order for the Straw Hats, a group of people with comparable AP to Oars, to defeat Oars, they needed to do the following.
Completely disable one of his limbs, completely freeze him in place, wrap him in a gigantic moving chain that covered his neck and arm, slice his stomach to the point where his back could be straightened in order to remove the natural shock absorption factor of his body, then hit him with the strongest technique in the series at that moment.

Diane isn't doing that.
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SnookB said:
There literally dozens of battles on this site where certain techniques and transformations are restricted so the character doesn't ascend a tier. Why is this suddenly a big deal now?
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I'm not making it a big deal? like homie re-read my comment because you're completely misunderstanding what i'm saying.
 
LIFE_OF_KING said:
If you restrict the Dance, you are not only taking away the amplifier, but like half of Diane abilities that she uses constantly. She won't even be able to use 1/100 of what she naturally does in that key.
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And if you allow the Dance, you are allowing a stomp match, which is against the rules, and people have gotten banned for creating stomp matches.

You guys are fine with Oars being a corpse to fight Diane but not Diane getting an amp literally over a hundred times Oars' AP and dura. Are you deadass
 
KingTempest said:
And if you allow the Dance, you are allowing a stomp match, which is against the rules, and people have gotten banned for creating stomp matches.

You guys are fine with Oars being a corpse to fight Diane but not Diane getting an amp literally over a hundred times Oars' AP and dura. Are you deadass
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Tbf LOK wasn't the one suggested that and agreed to that
 
Deceived said:
I'm not making it a big deal? like homie re-read my comment because you're completely misunderstanding what i'm saying.
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You're on the same boat of "why RESTRICT SOMETHING THAT MAKES HER JUMP A TIER" when it's literally against the rules. Restricting a character to a tier via taking away a technique/Amp or transformation is a thing done on the regular with vs threads. It doesn't NEED to be said by the OP, because it's clear in the rules already.
 
Restricting Diane's Dance would be the same as restricting Zoro's Three Swords style. It doesn't make sense. It is something that is part of the character and uses that in all cases. It's not like a transformation, but a fighting style
 
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