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Digimon Update Revision: Physiology, Data and Hellfire

Shouldn't the non-physical interaction section in general Digimon abilities also include NEP type 1? Because of the Dark Area Digimon?
The blog can have Type 1 interaction. However, do all Digimon truly interact with Negamon or is it just high-level Digimon? I never watched the Adventure Reboot.
You're mistaken. The Digimon cosmology rn is 4HBs being 9D while Kernel is at 10D.
The blog is saying the Kernal is also 9D

because the one saying this is Homeostasis, another Host Computer like entity/god of the Digital World that has a similar role to Yggdrasil/King Drasil and resides there as well, so other "weaker" Digimon manipulating/distorting Data can indeed affect the 9 Spatial Axis of the Kernal, that is why i believe it would qualify under these parameters
I don't personally like this, but since they're able to eventually cause a snowball effect on an HDE structure, they would require manipulation on that scale.
see... well, most of it comes from how Perception molds what a Digimon can or can't do... technically all of them "can" but due to them not knowing they can... they don't... like, the resistances would be there, but maybe not the abilities... so i will do as you said and just put a note explaining that, just because all Normal Digimon have them both, they are not assumed to know how to use them without the OP of the VS Match saying they know... i think that solves the problem, cause that is more of an individual trait that can be learned by each Digimon rather than a Physiology thing, and most of our profiles are species profiles after all
That works for me. The resistances were never really in question; it was more so the default assumption that any Digimon would have access to the full swath of the Ideas branch of Data Manipulation/Digital Energy. Like, should Kuwagamon really get Dark and Holy powers? Like all of them? I'm not entirely sure on that.
 
@Qawsedf234 @Omegabronic Shouldn't the non-physical interaction section in general Digimon abilities also include NEP type 1? Because of the Dark Area Digimon? I know NEP type 2 is included because of Negamon.
Technically speaking... it already does, cuz affecting NEP Type 2 is a greater feat than affecting Type 1... so you would be able to affect the former with the latter, at least, from my understanding
 
The blog can have Type 1 interaction. However, do all Digimon truly interact with Negamon or is it just high-level Digimon? I never watched the Adventure Reboot.
hum... i suppose only Ultimate/Mega level Digimon do it in the final battle of the Reboot... so maybe we could add

The blog is saying the Kernal is also 9D
It was a mistake... sorry, i reformated this so many times i forgot a few details, should all be fixed now 🙏

I don't personally like this, but since they're able to eventually cause a snowball effect on an HDE structure, they would require manipulation on that scale.

That works for me. The resistances were never really in question; it was more so the default assumption that any Digimon would have access to the full swath of the Ideas branch of Data Manipulation/Digital Energy.
Thank you, will writte a note and add

with all of that, would you say you agree on everything now?
 
hum... i suppose only Ultimate/Mega level Digimon do it in the final battle of the Reboot... so maybe we could add
If that's the case, then give the Low Tier Type 1 and the High Tier Type 2.
with all of that, would you say you agree on everything now?
I'd have to look over everything once all the changes have been made, but on my end, yeah it should be all good after that.
 
The blog can have Type 1 interaction. However, do all Digimon truly interact with Negamon or is it just high-level Digimon? I never watched the Adventure Reboot.
Negamon starts from like Baby II and jumps to Mega at the final episodes.

I'd also have to rewatch Adventure 2020 reboot, but the Baby II and Mega forms are in the DRB.

Therefore, I'd still say that it should apply to low tier (if we're talking about Baby II Negamon).

But if you @Qawsedf234 @Omegabronic decide it should only apply to high tiers, that's fine with me.

I'm not that picky (usually). Unless it's Twizzlers.
 
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I'd also have to rewatch Adventure 2020 reboot, but the Baby II and Mega forms are in the DRB.

Therefore, I'd still say that it should apply to low tier (if we're talking about Baby II Negamon).
My point isn't that Negamon doesn't have Type 2 (it does), my point is that can any Digimon punch it or is it only upper level ones.
 
Putting only the Higher level ones seems safer for now... at least till Negamon appears again
 
My point isn't that Negamon doesn't have Type 2 (it does), my point is that can any Digimon punch it or is it only upper level ones.
If I remember correctly (again I'd have to rewatch it), Negamon Baby II doesn't interact with anyone much.

So I guess you and @Omegabronic might actually be right about that.

Then yeah, high tiers should be the safe placement.

I guess we'll just have to wait for Negamon (especially its Baby II level) having more appearances in other media to have a definitive answer.

Because Negamon Baby II doesn't appear much.
 
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That works for me. The resistances were never really in question; it was more so the default assumption that any Digimon would have access to the full swath of the Ideas branch of Data Manipulation/Digital Energy. Like, should Kuwagamon really get Dark and Holy powers? Like all of them? I'm not entirely sure on that.
To further elaborate on this and the smurf hax (though I realize by our standards how smurf it is is prolly isn't all that relevant or what have you rn), Data is made up of 1s and 0s, these 1s and 0s are light and darkness respectively, Data as a concept underlines light and darkness and any manipulation of it is a manipulation of Light and Darkness, Evolution as a process is fundamentally something of Light and is something every digimon does.

As for the smurf haxery, that's to do with how Data is kinda just the same on every level of reality bar the Kernel (or, more accurately the True Kernel, which has a direct statement of residing within its true self for a longer time fundamentally changing someone's data to the point where they can't exist within the HW or DW anymore), the data in the human world is the same data the 4HBs are made out of, same with light and darkness, but furthermore, all the light the digital world has directly stems from/is the light of the 4HBs/Digi-Entelechy, which, given the whole "Data is the same everywhere" tidbit, and how light is the 1s of data, does give reason to scale the nature of light to them. But as I said, the amount to which this is relevant is kinda eh considering the changes to smurf hax.
 
One step at a time, one step at a time
Downgrade Digimon to Below Human Level, Below 11-C, or Ban the entire Digimon verse into Cocytus.

Jokes aside, nothing on Digimon cosmology or tiering is decided.

I want to make that point especially clear because Digimon is a big franchise with a lot of entries. And since powerscaling is subjective, it's like mixing oil and water.

That discussion should be reserved for the server or the 💀Digimon Cosmology Update CRT💀. I unironically dread it.

When the cosmology CRT comes, the world shall know pain.
To further elaborate on this and the smurf hax (though I realize by our standards how smurf it is is prolly isn't all that relevant or what have you rn), Data is made up of 1s and 0s, these 1s and 0s are light and darkness respectively, Data as a concept underlines light and darkness and any manipulation of it is a manipulation of Light and Darkness, Evolution as a process is fundamentally something of Light and is something every digimon does.

As for the smurf haxery, that's to do with how Data is kinda just the same on every level of reality bar the Kernel (or, more accurately the True Kernel, which has a direct statement of residing within its true self for a longer time fundamentally changing someone's data to the point where they can't exist within the HW or DW anymore), the data in the human world is the same data the 4HBs are made out of, same with light and darkness, but furthermore, all the light the digital world has directly stems from/is the light of the 4HBs/Digi-Entelechy, which, given the whole "Data is the same everywhere" tidbit, and how light is the 1s of data, does give reason to scale the nature of light to them. But as I said, the amount to which this is relevant is kinda eh considering the changes to smurf hax.
Yeah. Pretty much. Light/darkness exist in every Digimon.

Btw @Omegabronic , sorry to bother you again, but you need to link the blog in Note 6 in the Physiology Page. You forgot to link the blog.

That will help provide better explanation on light/darkness.
 
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Yeah I'd say what Qaw has already said should be good
 
If that's the case, then give the Low Tier Type 1 and the High Tier Type 2.

I'd have to look over everything once all the changes have been made, but on my end, yeah it should be all good after that.
Everything should be fine now
 
Only issue I see is that for High Tier Digimon the bolding is messed up for the Negamon stuff. Other than that it looks good.
Fixed that... now, has enough time passed for this to be applied on are there still a few hours before that?
 
Fixed that... now, has enough time passed for this to be applied on are there still a few hours before that?
The rule is as follows:
For content revision suggestions, generally, a standard grace period of 48 hours should be allowed for the reviewing staff members to evaluate and approve them. However, in the case of extremely blatant, self-evident revisions, a grace period of 24 hours is acceptable. Until this grace period has elapsed, since the time of the thread's creation, the revision should not be applied to the profiles.
So it's been 48 hours since the CRT was posted, so the P&A stuff can be added
 



Applied to the physiology pages, and created the new pages

Will periodically apply to the character pages as the days go on
 



Applied to the physiology pages, and created the new pages

Will periodically apply to the character pages as the days go on
Got it. Looks good 👍.
 
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