Your desire to protect Digimon is commendable. It is. I would’ve done the same for Pokemon. It's unfortunate that you ended up picking Digimon over Pokemon, or we would've been the best of partners.
Do not speak like this again. It's literal nonsense (Didn't you say you had "moved on from Digimon hatred" anyway?)
The problem is also not that blogs are linked to the verse page. Again, they are being used as a means of avoiding the duress and scrutiny that the exact same information would and should face if it were put into an explanation page, and thusly is being completely unregulated.
By saying this, you are stating that it's the intent of these pages to dodge being judged by other members as explanation pages, and this is impossible. As you know, the blogs predated the current explanation pages standards and were never intended to be one; they were added from 2016~2020 and just kept on the page until now.
Tell me, how could the blogs even be used to "dodge the standards" if they predated the standards? If anything, those blogs, along with many others popular at the time, are what evolved to set the standards to begin with. They were discussed at their time and they were approved at their time.
It's also nonsense to say that even in the idea of we not wanting to get stuff removed, when there's literally work being done with them and other with pages being revised as of now.
If the content needs to be revised for future usage, there's also no problem with that. Whatever needs to happen will happen, you have no reason to create conspiracy theories trying to figure out our intent when our intent is very clear and has been discussed openly since 2016.
Multiple of those aren’t applicable in VS and would be out of place on VS Battles Wiki anyway. The site is also against respect threads, as they removed just about every RT from the site. Some of those, like quantum destruction, sound interesting at first glance, but are either overblown calcs (which even if accepted, would belong in the Calculations section) or information that Digimon Physiology presents better.
Things don't need to be applicable to VS to be in the Wiki, otherwise, non-combat statistics wouldn't be needed, and other franchises have similar blogs. Saint Seiya literally has a blog all about
Atomic Destruction linked to the main page,
The Elder Scrolls has an entire blog just about discussing its metaphysics,
Kirby has linked Respect Threads, timeline of events, general Q&As, and much more. There are no limits to how many pages this Wiki can have, and especially with blogs, there isn't really a limit to what you can put there as long as it doesn't break any rules (
Megami Tensei has a blog discussing Buddhism and Quantum Mechanics), and I don't think the current blogs are hurting anyone.
The blogs in themselves also exist as references to other pages, the
Digimon Physiology page links to two of those blogs to give the readers more information if they feel like reading them, and these have been there since the page was first accepted and all other times it got revised.
And what you are saying about RTs is directly false according to the current rules.
- Do not directly add any respect thread links from external sites to our pages, as they can't be properly monitored to keep their content of sufficiently high reliability for our purposes, and they recurrently do not meet our standards. Feel free to remove any such existing links that you come across. The same applies to calculations hosted on external sites, although exceptions are made for the ones that were hosted on FanVerse if they were previously accepted. If one desires to feature them, they must be backed up to archive.today, after which the backed up pages are linked to in blog posts in the wiki (formatted such that it's easy for a casual viewer to find the link they're looking for when directed there), with credit given to the original creator(s). It should then be requested that our staff and knowledgeable members evaluate which of the feats that seem reliable or not in the blog post comment sections, and uncertain cases may be handled in content revision threads as well. On-site respect threads and direct feat sections may also be featured in profiles, but they must be evaluated and accepted in a Content Revisions Thread first.
From the
Editing Rules, the only thing it states is not to link to Respect Threads from external websites, as they can't be monitored. On-site respect threads are still valid as long as they are evaluated and accepted, and they were. I literally linked to when those blogs were used as part of CRTs and accepted. They are not breaking any rules.
Do not shift the blame to me on this. I agreed with backing up the unneeded profiles as blogs, but I did not agree to blogs being used sitewide as a direct replacement to quality-controlled profiles; which went on long before I agreed to anything at all.
This CRT wouldn’t affect any revisions in the first place, but I have never once actually seen a profile be updated. I’ve seen people override mods’ decisions before with “we gotta do my thing before we can do your thing” by saying Digimon profiles are just about to be updated, but that never happens. And this wouldn’t even matter to the revisions.
In the CRT in question, Aura spoke about editing the links and linking the blogs to the pages, I myself also said they could have been "saved as sandboxes for future reference", and two other thread moderators were directly in the CRT, quoted what Aura said, and no complaints were made about that. As I said, if there hadn't been the Blog Conversion mistake, none of that would have happened as it did as those were literally just accepted blogs.
This CRT wouldn't affect any revisions and it isn't what I suggested; I was just commenting on the outdated state of the blogs and the Digimon pages in general (It's perfectly possible to speak of different things at a single time).
And of course, if you can't see work being done with Digimon, that is because you are not researching in the right places,
as this has been discussed in the General Discussions thread, with links being given to show the progress in the overall Digimon research. Just from the last few months, there have been posts about
Digimon reincarnation,
an entire look at the development history of a single anime series (With a post about its lore and cosmology being worked on), and
an entire summary about the contradictions on Digimon, which explains why it's something it takes so long to discuss. There's no need to have this research been on the Wiki as it's far better served as something general for Digimon fans, which is why they aren't hosted here, but when the research is concluded, the important material will be included in a blog that will be discussed, revised, and if accepted, included.
Ok? Put the scans on the already-accepted explanation page; you’re blatantly proving my point. If they are good enough to be used as evidence in plural CRTs, they’re either good enough to be explained or they wouldn’t pass the basic scrutiny to be allowed onto a verse page. It seems like you’re trying to argue against working on turning any of them into pages because it would be hard, or that not everything present would stay there if the mods aligned with me.
I just don't find it necessary to turn them into pages, I think there's at least some notion about what needs to be a page (Which I see as something that directly affects ratings) and what can just be a blog (Something that can just be a nice read that can give more information about something, but whose absolutely necessary information for profiles can be found on pages).
Like, I don't think there's a need for a "Digimon History Explanation Page" that is just me going over 20 years of a franchise talking about its sales projects, but it works just fine as a blog that can be used to explain why there are so many narrative changes in Digimon.
Again, I see no reason why you keep saying this stuff about us, fearing that material could be removed for not passing "basic scrutiny". It literally makes no sense because they already passed long ago, those are not lies, and I personally do not care what is or isn't in this Wiki or how Digimon is rated. The only reason why I wrote blogs for this Wiki was because I found the subject interesting, and since no one was doing them, be it on the Wiki or the wider Digimon fanbase, I decided to show my unique perspective at the time. The more I wrote, the less connected to profiles my blogs became to the point that I literally gave no opinion on any tiering that used my blogs because I have no interest in that, all I do is write. In fact, I wasn't even the one who had the idea of linking the blogs to the page; it was Ant who first suggested it, and all I did was to continue making more blogs that were later used for CRTs. You literally have no idea what the actual history of these blogs is, even though you are accusing me and Digimon supporters of having ulterior motives behind them.
Nowadays, I have my own blog and personal accounts that are far better suited to my taste than the Wiki. If it's decided that it's better to remove the pages, I wouldn't care. All I was doing was giving information regarding what these blog posts were really about and why I think that erasing them for now wouldn't matter, but if it's decided differently, so be it.
Just stop making these accusations about me and Digimon supporters. There's no conspiracy about wanting Digimon to have special treatment. I had already openly said that if it were to have a revision, downgrading Digimon to 11-A or deleting the verse as a whole, I would not care.
