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im asking because @Garchomp777 seems incessant on believing that Superman scales to copying The Source and has tier 1 phasing, but also because they say that Martian Manhunter and Aquaman have tier 1 mindhax as well
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Does Superman have tier 1 shit?
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I have more time then i know what to do with, might as ******* well.
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Superman (Post-Crisis)
Superman is one of the most powerful beings on Earth, and its greatest hero. Born to the illustrious House of El, Kal-El is one of the last surviving members of his race as his planet was destroyed not long after his birth. He was found and raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent in Smallville...
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that looks like a big no lol
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I'm actually asking about Post-Flashpoint supes here, as shown with the one i linked
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pretty sure it did, that's why I'm asking since Garchomp claimed that Supes scaled to copying The Source, a High 1-A, though I'm 99% sure that's an outlier
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It is so stupid you actually made a thread just to spite a person. Even worst than his wanking.
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i was asking a question, why do people think I'm some guy who will just do something out of spite?
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I mean if people actually think I'm spiting and not just asking a question then may as well lol
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Yeah, it's not really a good thing to spite people.
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I'm not trying to, I'm trying to find out the validity of Superman having Tier 1 abilities, Garchomp777 just brought it up so I do indeed want to be sure
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All Tier 2/1 feats are completely out of context or Superman doesn't actually scale form it. He either only fought their held back avatars, the Cosmic entities had no intention of killing Superman to begin with, or in Darkseid's case, the song Superman sung in general was Darkseid's kryptonite thanks to Mandrak I think his name was?
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You can argue Superman to have tier 1 stuff, mostly hax though. And the tier 1 stuff for AP, if legit, will be an outlier most likely, unless he's amped.
Tier 2 stuff is definitely debatable though, one of the best (if not THE best) powerscalers I know made this page.
Martian Manhunter does in fact have tier 1 mindhax feats, not sure about Aquaman and well phasing doesn't have a tier but if it did you could scale it to Flash's phasing who hurt Post-Crisis Black Racer with it.
Tier 2 stuff is definitely debatable though, one of the best (if not THE best) powerscalers I know made this page.
Martian Manhunter does in fact have tier 1 mindhax feats, not sure about Aquaman and well phasing doesn't have a tier but if it did you could scale it to Flash's phasing who hurt Post-Crisis Black Racer with it.
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Apparently that's a boomtube amped feat, not sure though. If it is then it's not an outlier though. Same for fighting Soulfire Darkseid I think (him being amped), not sure if that'd be an outlier though and to which extent he scales to the Source (although the page I linked does mention it). Scaling to Doctor Fate who scales to Indra who's a threat to all planes of existence would be via Darkseid and while amped as well, then again that's kinda retroactive scaling since the Indra stuff is quite old.
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nice, there is some validity to that, shame he doesn't use it though because the writers forget Superman has anything except for Heat Vision, Flight, and Strength
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A lot of people already saw that blog and they still all got rejected.
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Trust me, it's one thing to debunk Nia's page while other people argue it, it's another to do so against himself. Found that one out the hard way... several times...
Also from what I remember Firestorm quit halfway through when trying to debunk it. Although to be fair there's still the standards difference and all that.
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It was more so FanofRPGs who tackled everything there iirc. And a lot of the things brought up were also brought up Soldier of Krypton.
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True, well I’m highly aware of both Fan’s and Nia’s stance on DC. A shame both aren’t on VSBW anymore tbh, would have probably benefited DC scaling if they could have put their opinions against each other and come to a conclusion together.
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None i stated are misinterpreted I can send you the scans
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yeah, pre-crisis and OG supes are tier 2, i can see that!
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thats why im willing to hear it out, i like the idea of Tier 2 supes throughout the main comics
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Can't they be a key for them e.g low 1C by boomtube amp as for the feat to be able to make the phantom zone seize to exist.
Soul fire case tho I see it as outlier but still possible 1A as he was even caught in the combined attack of both characters and survived.
True tho.
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This is good
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How about him.being a possible threat to doctor Manhattan tho,isn't that a possible low 1C?
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Tbh that page is damn
I thought I knew superman but that ***** is fire 
,am still shocked he has scans for each statement.
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Manhattan himself saw him as a threat tho,buy yh possible low 1C.
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Hmm, we could probably make this into a CRT, we just need scans for superman tier 2 feats
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You can argue he was unaffected by Crisis, not a fan of it, but you can. Then again most if not all 65+ universal feats for Superman on Nia’s page are from Post-Crisis pretty sure.
