DOOM slayer abstract existence type 2

[Boblox1111]

Apparently someone did make a request about this, but there was no conclusion or Further replies (the req was made 7 or 8 months ago I believe)


Lets begin.


premises:
The slayer embodies a concept

Evidence:

He is stated to be the right hand of DOOM itself

Hes the god of it

He is DOOM

He represents the rage of mankind

He is a avatar

A avatar of wrath,chaos,rage and uncompromising

and looking at it, we know it qualifys for type 2 abstract existence

Type 2 - Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it.

It's stated he is DOOM, which can refer to the fact he embodies it, but the statements from Hugo make it convincing since he literally says he is the avatar of rage,chaos,uncompromising and wrath.
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its also stated he exists as long as demons exists, I dont think I need to prove this since it's used for tyep 8 Immortality slayer which is accepted in his page

I hope this helps.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

There no proof for resurrected or regenerate so no.

Type 2: Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it.

 

[Boblox1111]

The character doesn't Necessarily needs to have a statement or feat that can prove this, He embodies the concept, we haven't seen him use this, in DOOM dark ages, he was resurrected by commander valen.

There no proof for resurrected or regenerate so no.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

The character doesn't Necessarily needs to have a statement or feat that can prove this, He embodies the concept, we haven't seen him use this, in DOOM dark ages, he was resurrected by commander valen.

It needs to be proof this. And embodies the concept isn't enough

Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction.

And resurrected by someone/something that doesn't give Immortality Type 4

 

[Boblox1111]

It needs to be proof this. And embodies the concept isn't enough

And resurrected by someone/something that doesn't give Immortality Type 4

Well

Let's take a vaild inference.

Demons are chaotic

DOOM slayer embodies the concept of it

as long as demons exist so does the Slayer

Therefore he embodies the concept of chaos

 

[Firestorm808]

"Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it. This power has a variety of uses, ranging from a high degree of control over the abstraction and its manifestations, the aforementioned immortality, or even being unaffected by abilities that can't target the abstraction.

Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction."

"Type 2: Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it."

I do not think the OP has given sufficient justification.

 

[Boblox1111]

"Abstract Existence is the ability to embody an abstraction, such as a concept, thought, or information, and being immortal thanks to it. This power has a variety of uses, ranging from a high degree of control over the abstraction and its manifestations, the aforementioned immortality, or even being unaffected by abilities that can't target the abstraction.

Embodying a concept is not enough to obtain this ability, an abstract needs feats or reliable statements proving that the concept they represent grants them Immortality/Regeneration or control over the abstraction."

"Type 2: Embodies an abstraction, and can be resurrected or regenerate indefinitely thanks to it. Destroying the abstraction is required to permanently kill those characters, but they can still be affected without directly altering it."

I do not think the OP has given sufficient justification.

Can u read the other reply I sent to someone? It has the justifications

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

Well

Let's take a vaild inference.







Therefore he embodies the concept of chaos

Non of those prove Immortality Type 4 or 3, just embodying concepts or Immortality Type 8 does not enough to this.

 

[Boblox1111]

Non of those prove Immortality Type 4 or 3, just embodying concepts or Immortality Type 8 does not enough to this.

This CAN be used for resurrection, if he dies he can be resurrected, In Dark ages he was resurrected, because if demons existed so does he., Furthermore, Type 8 Immortality includes resurrection, if the character DOES die then it can be resurrected because you have to destory The qualification of the type 8 Immortality, DOOM Slayer perfectly matches this.

 

[Ultimate-Rex1]

This CAN be used for resurrection, if he dies he can be resurrected, In Dark ages he was resurrected, because if demons existed so does he.,

Unclear context, was it resurrected by Demons still around or by someone?

Furthermore, Type 8 Immortality includes resurrection, if the character DOES die then it can be resurrected because you have to destory The qualification of the type 8 Immortality, DOOM Slayer perfectly matches this.

No, it depends on the way each character's Type 8 works, like it can be Type 8 with Type 2 or Type 8 with Type 1 and 3 and etc....

8: Reliant Immortality: The character gets benefited by 1 or more other types of Immortality as long as a certain being, object, place, and/or concept or more may grant them those benefits, losing them otherwise. What exactly a user is reliant over, the benefits given from it, and how the process of the ability operates must be explained. Simply having some weakness that will kill a character when exploited doesn't qualify if it doesn't grant a form of Immortality, and also having other powers that do grant Immortality but are unrelated to that weakness does not count as well. It is discouraged to list this type if it would be redundant due to the same power already being described in another ability of the profile.

 

[Boblox1111]

Unclear context, was it resurrected by Demons still around or by someone?

No, it depends on the way each character's Type 8 works, like it can be Type 8 with Type 2 or Type 8 with Type 1 and 3 and etc....

He resurrected himself, the Cthulhu brothers around him were protecting him by creating a barrier, and DOOM slayer's type 8 is basically if a concept exists then so does the user, Basically the concept of evil and demons exists, so therefore the slayer also exists.

 

[KaramcaS]

I don't see any 100% clear evidence other than a simple YouTuber's own commentary

 

[Boblox1111]

I don't see any 100% clear evidence other than a simple YouTuber's own commentary

You should watch the Full video, Hugo Martin's voice was literally there, Furthermore, These statements also come from the Game, Which are already used and accepted for other hax In DOOM slayer's ability page

 

[KaramcaS]

You should watch the Full video, Hugo Martin's voice was literally there, Furthermore, These statements also come from the Game, Which are already used and accepted for other hax In DOOM slayer's ability page

I meant the "A avatar of wrath,chaos,rage and uncompromising" part

 

[Boblox1111]

I meant the "A avatar of wrath,chaos,rage and uncompromising" part

He used Hugo Martin's own Explanation and elaborated it further and dived deeper, We know he has the authority said this, because it was a literal livestream with Hugo.