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Doomfist (Overwatch) vs. Ms. Marvel (Marvel Comics) - The Mooks and Crooks Bracket Round 1 Match 6

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Welcome to the Mooks and Crooks Bracket Round One!

Doomfist (Nominated by Arkansalter2) vs. Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) (Nominated by Suigetsuhyugs)

Some more rules:

In-character, starting at a distance of 8 meters, the match is set in an underground boxing ring within an alternate universe Bar With No Name
Speed Equalized
Rest
SBA

With that said, let the match begin!​

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I've little idea on how White Fox operates, while Doomfist is pretty nasty. Thankfully Doomfist can't just slap the ground and instantly win instantly like he could against someone he has an AP advantage on, but the difference isn't massive because Doomfist is like 3 one-shots above his value.

Anyways, Doom vs agility basically means that unless you're Spider-Man, he's going to either predict you or put you into a position where you have no choice but to take his hits. He can do this against Genji, who basically went 4 vs an entire God damn army and can return to sender having several galling guns aimed at his face. African Martial arts also aren't the most commonly used worldwide, so Doomfist has an edge in that when it comes down to pure Melee, his fighting style is less known than say, Kung Fu or Muay Thai.
 
I've little idea on how White Fox operates, while Doomfist is pretty nasty. Thankfully Doomfist can't just slap the ground and instantly win instantly like he could against someone he has an AP advantage on, but the difference isn't massive because Doomfist is like 3 one-shots above his value.

Anyways, Doom vs agility basically means that unless you're Spider-Man, he's going to either predict you or put you into a position where you have no choice but to take his hits. He can do this against Genji, who basically went 4 vs an entire God damn army and can return to sender having several galling guns aimed at his face. African Martial arts also aren't the most commonly used worldwide, so Doomfist has an edge in that when it comes down to pure Melee, his fighting style is less known than say, Kung Fu or Muay Thai.
She doesn't really have much appearances in a way to stablish a concrete fighting strategy for a 1v1.
I guess she did a 1v1 against ghost spider but it involved a lot of running after ghost spider and once she transformed it was one shot.
White Fox is a spy, so for the most part she does melee (Melee also involves using claws) or fire arms but if she can't take out the opponent easily she would start transforming, and at that point she goes over one shot level above her normal, she has no problems using hypnosys but she prefers to take the enemy out. The marbles stuff can be used to heal but life force absortion likely requires touch.
Regarding melee I don't really have much details, she is a very good spy and she was trainned in martial arts to which extent is unknown.
 
Finally. I won't lose instantly.
On his go I guess.

He also has hand cannons so he isn't completely defenseless against ranged attacks.
Im not sure if he would even have the chance to use those cannons with fight being in a ring and starting so close.
 
Im not sure if he would even have the chance to use those cannons with fight being in a ring and starting so close.
He'll use it any chance he gets.
White Fox is a spy, so for the most part she does melee (Melee also involves using claws) or fire arms but if she can't take out the opponent easily she would start transforming,
Melee would be a death sentence for White Fox. Doomfist will smack the everliving crap out him via Gauntlet along with handcannons.
Regarding melee I don't really have much details, she is a very good spy and she was trainned in martial arts to which extent is unknown.
Doomfist actively predicted and oneshotted a tracer that was teleporting many times a second. He also one-shot genji who is comparable to tracer.

OW characters are massively one-shots above their actual tier.
 
He'll use it any chance he gets.

Melee would be a death sentence for White Fox. Doomfist will smack the everliving crap out him via Gauntlet along with handcannons.

Doomfist actively predicted and oneshotted a tracer that was teleporting many times a second. He also one-shot genji who is comparable to tracer.

OW characters are massively one-shots above their actual tier.
One shot scaling doesn't give you advantage against someone that has an higher value, they are just higher than their current value. And when white fox transforms she doesn't just get one shot level stronger but also blitz level faster. And while I admit her martial arts level is unknown I think you assuming that Doomfist going to just smack her is quite an exaggeration.
 
Oneshots only give you vague upscales, can only be 1.5x or even lower for all its worth, so that AP scaling's irrelevant imo
 
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And when white fox transforms she doesn't just get one shot level stronger but also blitz level faster.
Again, Doomfist can actively predict Tracer who constantly teleports many times a second. Blitzes are no problem for Doomfist.
He can tank countless attacks from Tracer and Genji simutaneously, who are a comparable tier to him. It's gonna take a lot for people to bring him down.
At the same time, he can straight up Rocket Punch White Fox into a wall and just Major Anderson them.
 
Again, Doomfist can actively predict Tracer who constantly teleports many times a second. Blitzes are no problem for Doomfist.
He can tank countless attacks from Tracer and Genji simutaneously, who are a comparable tier to him. It's gonna take a lot for people to bring him down.
At the same time, he can straight up Rocket Punch White Fox into a wall and just Major Anderson them.
Predicting teleport and reacting to tracer doesn't mean you can react to a blitz, those are different things, and speed is equalized. Doomfist's precog comes from analysing his opponent, he has no knowledge of White Fox, I'm sure as the fight goes on he will start predicting but if White Fox transforms then he will know nothing of her stile of fighting when she is using a completely different shape.
White Fox can heal herself with Marbles in case Doomfist's punch causes significant damage. White Fox also has superior stamina so Doomfist would end up losing in a long battle too.
 
Oneshots only give you vague upscales, can only be 1.5x or even lower for all its worth, so that AP scaling's irrelevant imo
When you consider the fact that the AP difference is only about x1.58, and that Doomfist apparently has 3 on top of each other, I certainly wouldn't call it irrelevant.
 
When you consider the fact that the AP difference is only about x1.58, and that Doomfist apparently has 3 on top of each other, I certainly wouldn't call it irrelevant.
Are there definite values for these oneshot upscales in the verse?
 
She doesn't really have much appearances in a way to stablish a concrete fighting strategy for a 1v1.
I guess she did a 1v1 against ghost spider but it involved a lot of running after ghost spider and once she transformed it was one shot.
White Fox is a spy, so for the most part she does melee (Melee also involves using claws) or fire arms but if she can't take out the opponent easily she would start transforming, and at that point she goes over one shot level above her normal, she has no problems using hypnosys but she prefers to take the enemy out. The marbles stuff can be used to heal but life force absortion likely requires touch.
Regarding melee I don't really have much details, she is a very good spy and she was trainned in martial arts to which extent is unknown.
so, basically, Doomfist should slam her? the guy's pretty damn skilled and blitzing him only gets her AoE'd or predicted to hell and back. That AoE by the by would also certainly collapse the arena and only one of these characters can actually get out of being crushed by that.
Are there definite values for these oneshot upscales in the verse?
The point was even after amps from White Fox, the AP advantage is literally irrelevant because Doomfist's upscaling from his value is stupid high.
 
The point was even after amps from White Fox, the AP advantage is literally irrelevant because Doomfist's upscaling from his value is stupid high.
What values, yeah? If there are no values stacking upscales means zilch
 
What values, yeah? If there are no values stacking upscales means zilch
Sake thing for White Fox impress. I never said Doomfist had an AP advantage, I said that his upscaling renders White Fox's own amps irrelevant
 
so, basically, Doomfist should slam her?
She isn't glass cannon she still scales to high durability
the guy's pretty damn skilled and blitzing him only gets her AoE'd or predicted to hell and back.
AoE'd? He doesn't have a value for his AoE attack so at best scales to the same as his other attacks, predting attacks of a blitz? He doesn't have sharingan bing blitz means he would have no reaction speed so he wouldn't even be able to dodge.
That AoE by the by would also certainly collapse the arena and only one of these characters can actually get out of being crushed by that.
What?
The point was even after amps from White Fox, the AP advantage is literally irrelevant because Doomfist's upscaling from his value is stupid high.
I'm not even going to keep responding, all your arguments are based on him being much superior to her in AP despite having no value to scale to.
And Doomfist still gets cooked if White Fox uses mind hax.
 
She isn't glass cannon she still scales to high durability
I never said she didn't/
AoE'd? He doesn't have a value for his AoE attack so at best scales to the same as his other attacks, predting attacks of a blitz? He doesn't have sharingan bing blitz means he would have no reaction speed so he wouldn't even be able to dodge.
He doesn't need to dodge, he only needs to hit her repeatedly.

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maybe watch the literal first thing to know with Doomfist, eh? he's got AoEs for days, and these things act as normal ass shockwaves, Aka they go through things and **** them up entirely. This is noted in his AP section.
I'm not even going to keep responding, all your arguments are based on him being much superior to her in AP despite having no value to scale to.
I called the AP advantage irrelevant, not that Doomfist had some magical AP advantage he pulled out of his ass.
And Doomfist still gets cooked if White Fox uses mind hax.
"if".
 
I never said she didn't/

He doesn't need to dodge, he only needs to hit her repeatedly.
So it all depends on White Fox staying in place waiting for him to attack her despite having blitz level speed amp? Good wincon

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maybe watch the literal first thing to know with Doomfist, eh? he's got AoEs for days, and these things act as normal ass shockwaves, Aka they go through things and **** them up entirely. This is noted in his AP section.

He doesn't have durability negation so not happening, and the multiple characters he hits in that video none had their organs blown up, heck he hit Genji multiple times and he kept fighting.
I called the AP advantage irrelevant, not that Doomfist had some magical AP advantage he pulled out of his ass.
You did when you pretty much said he would slam her and crush her.
She is a spy and has no morals, if she is put in a dangerous situation she uses all she got, even using illusions.
 
Just played Overwatch yesterday, also I read somewhere that White Fox uses magic woudn't she be too overpowered to this tournament?
 
So it all depends on White Fox staying in place waiting for him to attack her despite having blitz level speed amp? Good wincon
she goes to the left and his fist is already there to punch her. That is his analytical prediction at work. it works on someone who literally spammed borderline teleportation(Which is actually a blitz amp via time manipulation BTW), it will work on White Fox.
He doesn't have durability negation so not happening, and the multiple characters he hits in that video none had their organs blown up, heck he hit Genji multiple times and he kept fighting.
His punches don't do that, his shockwaves do, there is a difference. It's not like he's going to Saitama someone... Notwithstanding that Genji actually wasn't properly tagged more than once, if you saw Doomfist fist him before Genji was incapped be my guest to show that.
You did when you pretty much said he would slam her and crush her.
it's a metaphor. Have you never thought that someone got slammed or crushed when they lost?
She is a spy and has no morals, if she is put in a dangerous situation she uses all she got, even using illusions.
Does she, though? Some characters do stupid shit, ya know. Espeically in Marvel. If she does it's probably decisive in her favor, if she doesn't Doomfist probably very high diffs this, but yes this is basically the reason I don't willingly deal with Marvel Comics characters very often, a lot of unaccounted for screwery for me to handle
Just played Overwatch yesterday, also I read somewhere that White Fox uses magic woudn't she be too overpowered to this tournament?
I don't know do you see Magic on White Fox's profile?
 
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Just played Overwatch yesterday, also I read somewhere that White Fox uses magic woudn't she be too overpowered to this tournament?
Using magic means little to nothing, magic can range from anything between "release a fireball" to "warp the entire reality and nuke the omegamultiverse"
(and her profile doesnt even lists magic)
 
she goes to the left and his fist is already there to punch her. That is his analytical prediction at work. it works on someone who literally spammed borderline teleportation(Which is actually a blitz amp via time manipulation BTW), it will work on White Fox.
For Doomfist it is just teleportation, she teleported close to him but after the teleport she moves at normal speed so she couldn't react to Doomfist's grab.
His punches don't do that, his shockwaves do, there is a difference. It's not like he's going to Saitama someone... Notwithstanding that Genji actually wasn't properly tagged more than once, if you saw Doomfist fist him before Genji was incapped be my guest to show that.
And he doesn't have durability negation shockwaves are not assumed to ignore resistance outright unless stated otherwise like in One Piece.
Does she, though? Some characters do stupid shit, ya know. Espeically in Marvel. If she does it's probably decisive in her favor, if she doesn't Doomfist probably very high diffs this, but yes this is basically the reason I don't willingly deal with Marvel Comics characters very often,
She doesn't have many appearances and she usually wins quite easily against her enemies, she doesn't have enought authors writting her to make her "dumb" but she had no problem using it on a simple market lady or against some guys on a mission.
I don't know do you see Magic on White Fox's profile?
Just played Overwatch yesterday, also I read somewhere that White Fox uses magic woudn't she be too overpowered to this tournament?
About that I only realized yesterday that she already has a page on Marvel official website that explains that she is mystical and her species descends from Demi gods so I intend to talk about that in a CRT but she isn't exacly popular so make a CRT just for a single power seems too much I was thinking about waiting for the current comic she is showing up end and see if there is something else worth noting.
 
For Doomfist it is just teleportation, she teleported close to him but after the teleport she moves at normal speed so she couldn't react to Doomfist's grab.
she wouldn't have been in a position to get her accelerator snatched if she didn't get predicted lol, it did actually take two tries to grab it
And he doesn't have durability negation shockwaves are not assumed to ignore resistance outright unless stated otherwise like in One Piece.
I never said he did, I just said they do normal shockwave things and **** the entire thing up. Against Orisa the first time it wasn't dura neg since there was no difference between her outer shell and internal durability.
She doesn't have many appearances and she usually wins quite easily against her enemies, she doesn't have enought authors writting her to make her "dumb" but she had no problem using it on a simple market lady or against some guys on a mission.
White Fox FRA, then.
 
It should, Marvel is currently wanked in terms of magic

@Suigetsuhyugs Why did you enter a character pending revisions when I said no to it?
About that I only realized yesterday that she already has a page on Marvel official website that explains that she is mystical and her species descends from Demi gods so I intend to talk about that in a CRT but she isn't exacly popular so make a CRT just for a single power seems too much I was thinking about waiting for the current comic she is showing up end and see if there is something else worth noting.
I think I already said I only found the evidence yesterday, the tournament had already started long before that, even this fight already started, it happened when I was looking a for a comic in the marvel official website.
 
It's still Round 1 so idm
I guess Jessica Drew could work
Or maybe Rogue in 8-C
 
I guess Jessica Drew could work
She has a far higher oneshot so meh
Or maybe Rogue in 8-C
20 times weaker, so prolly not

You can try Kamala or smth if that interests you
 
She has a far higher oneshot so meh
Wow I never though you would even care about that part, this match here for a good part was about Doomfist's one shot stacking upscales. Anyways I thought you would have more problems with her pheromones that could turn almost all of this tournament into simps.
20 times weaker, so prolly not
Well sure but I think we all know that her best powers are her power absortion.
You can try Kamala or smth if that interests you
Sure I like Kamala.
 
Think that means she just gets one-shot, since she has a lower baseline rating.
Again, not how oneshotting works. If you oneshot someone in your verse that doesn't mean you oneshot someone in a vs. match, it's just a vague upscale
 
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