Downgrade Game gen 8 and Shadow Mewtwo

[Hypercyber37]

If I lost Low 1-C Red, then everyone lost!

In Gen 8 games, Sinnoh Trio only exist so that we can catch them in Raids. They have nothing to do with the story. It's ridiculous that even characters like Marnie can get scale from them. Based on Gmax form approved pokemons like Melmetal, they can be at least High 3-A.

Debunk Shadow Mewtwo: I don't know how Pokken tournament was accepted as canon, but if there's one thing I know for sure, it's that High 3-A Mega Mewtwo belongs to the Pokémon adventure manga and Shadow Mewtwo will not get any share from it. I remember Pokken tournament was 4-A in itself.

Solutions: shadow mewtwo can be removed from the profile, it can get a separate profile, or it can be left in the same profile but it will be 4-A.

Agree:
Disagree: @Purmeenant
Neutral:

 

[Purmeenant]

The raids: The Rental Pokemon are able to damage the Creation Trio while using Dynamax and Marnie is flat out stronger than them statwise.

Neutral on Mewtwo cause I don't know much about the consensus on Pokken

 

[Hypercyber37]

The raids: The Rental Pokemon are able to damage the Creation Trio while using Dynamax and Marnie is flat out stronger than them statwise.

Neutral on Mewtwo cause I don't know much about the consensus on Pokken

I'm saying that the Sinnoh Trio in Raids is a game mechanic. I'm saying that the Creation Trio being here in random Raids just for us to catch them has nothing to do with the story.

 

[Purmeenant]

I'm saying that the Sinnoh Trio in Raids is a game mechanic. I'm saying that the Creation Trio being here in random Raids just for us to catch them has nothing to do with the story.

How is it just a game mechanic when they flat out say Pokemon that are not typically in Galar dwell there? That's like saying the Ultra Wormholes is just a game mechanic?

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Just in case, I feel like I should remind people that Spite threads are frowned upon pretty heavily.

 

[Hypercyber37]

How is it just a game mechanic when they flat out say Pokemon that are not typically in Galar dwell there? That's like saying the Ultra Wormholes is just a game mechanic?

The example you gave is irrelevant. Why are the strongest pokemon after Arceus only available in Dynamax Raids? Without any dialogue or explanation?

 

[Purmeenant]

The example you gave is irrelevant. Why are the strongest pokemon after Arceus only available in Dynamax Raids? Without any dialogue or explanation?

How is the example even remotely irrelevant? Why is an explanation for them being there necessary when other legendaries are there? Like what's the explanation for Suicune(Which is mandatory to fight by the way) being there?

 

[Hypercyber37]

How is the example even remotely irrelevant? Why is an explanation for them being there necessary when other legendaries are there? Like what's the explanation for Suicune(Which is mandatory to fight by the way) being there?

Maybe it's because the Creation Trio, unlike the legend examples you gave, create the space-time structure of the multiverse? Does it seem normal that they are never in the story and are only in raids so that we can see their dynamax states?
If you find this normal, I can put you in the "disagree" section. The Suicune example doesn't matter anyway because trainers will scale higher Suicune's whether we count the game mechanics or not.

 

[Purmeenant]

Maybe it's because the Creation Trio, unlike the legend examples you gave, create the space-time structure of the multiverse? Does it seem normal that they are never in the story and are only in raids so that we can see their dynamax states?
If you find this normal, I can put you in the "disagree" section. The Suicune example doesn't matter anyway because trainers will scale higher Suicune's whether we count the game mechanics or not.

Yes it's absolutely normal and how does them being multiversal even relevant? Also no the Suicune bit isnt about AP it's about why the Legendaries don't need some specific reason to be there.

 

[Hypercyber37]

Yes it's absolutely normal and how does them being multiversal even relevant? Also no the Suicune bit isnt about AP it's about why the Legendaries don't need some specific reason to be there.

 

[Hypercyber37]

Bump

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Oof

 

[Hypercyber37]

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Oof

 

[Hypercyber37]

Bump

 

[Hypercyber37]

Bump

 

[OrangeFR]

I’m pretty sure there is an already ongoing CRT about rental mons scaling to the CT