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Dream Devourer Lavos vs Oryx, Outside of Material Space
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Dream Devourer Lavos vs Outside of Material Space Oryx
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Why is Rimuru there REEEE.
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Can Lavos resist Oryx's passives tho?
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Corruption, Law Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Reality Warping, Existence Erasure, Mind Manipulation, Body Puppetry and PossessionElizhaa said:
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It's actually most of his powers passive in this key, due to it being his Throne World. If you can't get by thw Sword Logic of oryx you're kinda ******
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I don't see any resistances on Lavos's page, so he gets stomped by Oryx's passives.
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make it td pls.
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It still doesn't gain any resistances so it wouldn't matter sadly. This is just a stomp for Oryx sadly.Holyhotsauce said:
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Don't know
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I don't know, wok. I really don't know.
I mean, Oryx could probably reach out and touch the dupes, but I don't know if he could get to the nonexistent ones.
Or if he could affect Lavos at all, given they're all non corporeal nonexistent beings.
As for how Lavos could kill Oryx, I really don't know. I guess passively om-nomming + type 2 conceptual destruction + resistance negation + existence/non-existence erasure would be enough to delet Oryx.
Actually, given Lavos ability to create/dispel/replace pocket-realities, maybe he could....delete Oryx's throneworld? Probably not given it's scale and how it works, but it'd be worth a shot.
This doesn't matter if he can affect nonexistent beings tho, in which Lavos gets immediately taken and Oryx gets all his powers and then kills all the other Lavos dupe.
I mean, Oryx could probably reach out and touch the dupes, but I don't know if he could get to the nonexistent ones.
Or if he could affect Lavos at all, given they're all non corporeal nonexistent beings.
As for how Lavos could kill Oryx, I really don't know. I guess passively om-nomming + type 2 conceptual destruction + resistance negation + existence/non-existence erasure would be enough to delet Oryx.
Actually, given Lavos ability to create/dispel/replace pocket-realities, maybe he could....delete Oryx's throneworld? Probably not given it's scale and how it works, but it'd be worth a shot.
This doesn't matter if he can affect nonexistent beings tho, in which Lavos gets immediately taken and Oryx gets all his powers and then kills all the other Lavos dupe.
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Oryx should be capable of affecting non-existent beings. Lesser witches in the Hive are capable of absorbing Void Light from Guardians directly and manipulating it for their rituals.
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Yeah manipulating the Void isn't hard for anyone to do in the series, and the Throne Worlds were carved out of some inchoate primal nothingness if Mara's taken as correct. There's also how the Taken themselves are erased and reforged by The Darkness, even radiating this nothingness as they decay the universe itself. (Also Taking's an ontological weapon, and every other ontological weapon mentioned was erasure). The whole nonexistence bit shouldn't be too hard.
Non corporeality doesn't really matter either.
Type 2 concept manip's a resistance, as is resistance negation. Oryx's resistances are strong enough to resist his own active abilities besides his resistance negation, and he was totally fine when his daughters were singing.
Lavos would need to overcome Oryx at the absolute apex of his Sword Logic power to even try and interfere with his own throne. That doesn't really seem possible. Also it's only really technically a pocket realm, given the quote that just flat out says its infinitely large.
Non corporeality doesn't really matter either.
Type 2 concept manip's a resistance, as is resistance negation. Oryx's resistances are strong enough to resist his own active abilities besides his resistance negation, and he was totally fine when his daughters were singing.
Lavos would need to overcome Oryx at the absolute apex of his Sword Logic power to even try and interfere with his own throne. That doesn't really seem possible. Also it's only really technically a pocket realm, given the quote that just flat out says its infinitely large.
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Isn't Sword Logic something like "I've killed more people than you so I'm better than you" or something? Or was that only Warpriest?
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That's the general gist of it, but I wrote a page now
2-A oryx would have killed all those species he destroyed over his billions of years of life, all the guys he Took across all time, and of course the vastly beyond standard infinity number of Vex because 2-A Oryx is the Oryx the Vex knew would destroy them as a whole
It's technically a neutral power, but if Lavos doesn't even know it exists it won't be able to use it.
2-A oryx would have killed all those species he destroyed over his billions of years of life, all the guys he Took across all time, and of course the vastly beyond standard infinity number of Vex because 2-A Oryx is the Oryx the Vex knew would destroy them as a whole
It's technically a neutral power, but if Lavos doesn't even know it exists it won't be able to use it.
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Lavos can't resist Oryx passives, this is a stomp.
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Rip this thread then
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